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re3dyb0y
02-09-2006, 12:52 PM
Yeah, if you could, we would really appreciate to know!

JBidule
02-09-2006, 12:56 PM
OK, I understand your interest ;-)

As performance of the unit is not so quick, filling 250GB will take me a little time.
I will start a try to use full capacity and keep you all informed.

Already tested: formatting, force checking disk structure and filling 5-6GB, seems OK.

I will launch a filling this night and will keep you informed.

Cheers, John.

blue68f100
02-09-2006, 02:41 PM
No NO NO , you don't need to fill the drive up for this test. That would be a waste of time. Sorry if there was a miss comunication.

You just need to go to look at the disk utility from the web interface. It will report the capacity. Or from debug (http://snapaddress/config/debug) "co de info" Will give you the info we seek.

dashcraf
02-09-2006, 08:03 PM
Could I please get a PM or email from someone with the link to download OS v4

Thanks
David

JBidule
02-10-2006, 04:07 AM
David,

I am sorry, I had totally missed your point.

Please find below, the disk information given by Snap under Web Administration.
Total: 233,970 MB
Free: 230,425 MB
Files: 4,323

As said before, I take the brand new HDD from box, wired it in a PC (without any jumper configuration, it is delivered CS by default).
Then, boot PC with Knoppix.
Plug an USB key with snap1000.bin in it.
dd the image following the procedure given.
Unplug from PC and plug in Snap.
Reboot, at this time, given size was 30GB with disk unusable.
Power off, do the reset trick with buttons to clean all settings.
Reboot, when unit become accessible, go in debug mode and "config devices format 10000 /reinit"
Reboot, disk light is full during one hour or so.
When unit becomes accessible, it gives me the results above (233,970MB) free space!
So, even if my fill test is not really necessary I will cross the 137GB, just to see if there is any problems.
I will keep the forum informed about my results.

Cheers, John.

dog_guy1990
02-10-2006, 05:07 AM
please help me how snap server 1000 work with apple mac?

re3dyb0y
02-10-2006, 05:14 AM
David,

I am sorry, I had totally missed your point.

Please find below, the disk information given by Snap under Web Administration.
Total: 233,970 MB
Free: 230,425 MB
Files: 4,323

As said before, I take the brand new HDD from box, wired it in a PC (without any jumper configuration, it is delivered CS by default).
Then, boot PC with Knoppix.
Plug an USB key with snap1000.bin in it.
dd the image following the procedure given.
Unplug from PC and plug in Snap.
Reboot, at this time, given size was 30GB with disk unusable.
Power off, do the reset trick with buttons to clean all settings.
Reboot, when unit become accessible, go in debug mode and "config devices format 10000 /reinit"
Reboot, disk light is full during one hour or so.
When unit becomes accessible, it gives me the results above (233,970MB) free space!
So, even if my fill test is not really necessary I will cross the 137GB, just to see if there is any problems.
I will keep the forum informed about my results.

Cheers, John.

If it is showing as 250gb ish, then it is

I can't see you having any problem with puttin more than 137GB of files on it


It also makes you wonder if you were to now upgrade the OS, would you still have the same amount of space.

I suppose if the machine has set it up for 250gb, it must be usable with newer OS versions.....

dashcraf
02-10-2006, 01:33 PM
I'm Sorry, I may not have given enough information.

I have 2 Snap Server 2200s. These both have SnapOS version 3.4.790 with hardware versions 2.0.4 and BIOS versions 3.4.758. These are both functioning correctly using HDDs < 130GB. I am only looking to upgrade the OS in order to enable support for 250GB hard drives. I see that poogles_uk is running a similar 2200 and has successfully used a 250GB HDD in it.

I have downloaded the SnapOS v4.0.860 upgrade from Adaptec and updated the JVM and Sync software on these servers. They will not accept the SnapOS upgrade. As I thought I understood from reading these threads, I first need to upgrade the servers to SnapOS v4.0 and then upgrade to 4.0.860. If this is not necessary to enable support for 250GB HDDs in the 2200s please correct me.

If this is correct, and I need to first upgrade to SnapOS v4.0, could someone please give me the details on how to obtain this or another version of the OS which will allow access to large HDDs. I will happily donate to the cause if I can get these working.

Thank You
David

re3dyb0y
02-11-2006, 03:56 PM
Hmm

My 2200 has had a panic again....

blue68f100
02-11-2006, 04:17 PM
What is the panic reference too?

You have 2 differnent size and Mfg of hd in it, humm. even though you run JBOD.

re3dyb0y
02-12-2006, 06:03 AM
It would do it with just the 250gb...

Ill boot it up again, and have a look what the error was

re3dyb0y
02-12-2006, 06:09 AM
Call Stack :
$00105131
$002D1454
$002D8496
$002DF71A
$002B2187
$002B0957
$002BC3D6
$002BD7B6
$002B1EDF
$002B07E5
$002BC2B4
$002B0AAC
$0010413C
$001041F6
================================
System 2/11/2006 8:45:55 PM
F PANIC : Maximum yield time exceeded at $002BCEC4 System 2/11/2006 8:45:55 PM


I File System Check : 60616 files, 21027332 used, 8916845 free (0 frags, 8916845 blocks, 0.0%% fragmentation) Disk 10000
Individual 2/11/2006 9:05:25 PM
W File System Check : Clean flag not set in superblock (Fixed) Disk 10000
Individual 2/11/2006 9:05:25 PM
W File System Check : Modified flag set in superblock (Fixed) Disk 10000
Individual 2/11/2006 9:05:25 PM
W File System Check : Summary information bad (Salvaged) Disk 10000
Individual 2/11/2006 9:03:31 PM
W File System Check : Blk(s) missing in bit maps (Salvaged) Disk 10000
Individual 2/11/2006 9:03:31 PM
W File System Check : Free blk count(s) wrong in superblk (Salvaged) Disk 10000
Individual 2/11/2006 9:00:57 PM
I File System Check : ** Phase 5 - Check cylinder groups Disk 10000
Individual 2/11/2006 9:00:56 PM
I File System Check : ** Phase 4b - Check backlinks Disk 10000
Individual 2/11/2006 9:00:43 PM
I File System Check : ** Phase 4 - Check reference counts Disk 10000
Individual 2/11/2006 9:00:36 PM
I File System Check : ** Phase 3 - Check connectivity Disk 10000
Individual 2/11/2006 9:00:36 PM
I File System Check : ** Phase 2 - Check pathnames Disk 10000
Individual 2/11/2006 9:00:17 PM
I File System Check : ** Phase 1b - Rescan for more duplicate blocks Disk 10000
Individual 2/11/2006 9:00:17 PM
I File System Check : ** Phase 1 - Check blocks and sizes Disk 10000
Individual 2/11/2006 8:48:20 PM
W File System Check : partition is NOT clean. Disk 10000
Individual 2/11/2006 8:48:19 PM
I File System Check : Executing fsck /dev/ride0a /fix Disk 10000
Individual 2/11/2006 8:48:19 PM

re3dyb0y
02-12-2006, 06:10 AM
Im not sure if it is the Mainboard, as it sometimes doesn't boot....

I may try changing it later

blue68f100
02-12-2006, 09:21 AM
10000 is the bottom drive. All of the errors are on that drive, which is the boot drive for JBOD. I think you are have a hd failure.

re3dyb0y
02-12-2006, 09:57 AM
Well, the 1000 is my 250gb, its my top drive, plugged into the first IDE slot, and therefore is the boot drive.

It is fine at reading, it is the writing that seems to be the problem....

Just need to find a way to backup that 200GB of data, and then get the drive replaced

Thank god, i got it from a very helpful it place nearby... I suppose when i get the data off, jack it in my pc. and have a alook at the SMART and such

At least its half term the week after next, and im at my dads work which isn't too far away!



I think it'll have to be a WD for replacement, or should i try and get a Seagate 250 instead?

blue68f100
02-12-2006, 12:48 PM
BACKUP???

The reason I run RAID 1

I've got Seagates in mine, with 5 yr warranty.
But I think Hitachi has the best drive right now, but only 3 yr.

re3dyb0y
02-12-2006, 03:07 PM
Hmm

I was meaning, cause some of it is backup from my server, but there is also some files on it that are only on it, due to lack of space!

blue68f100
02-12-2006, 06:39 PM
David,

Is there a debug command that firestar can run to determine the firmware versions of all of the components in his 4100?
Sorry for being slow to respond on this, my LT was out for repair.

Not that i'm aware of.
There is a log that is generated on FreeBSD during the boot process. But I don't know how to access from the snap OS. Will try and get back with you.

re3dyb0y
02-13-2006, 09:03 AM
Sorry for being slow to respond on this, my LT was out for repair.

Not that i'm aware of.
There is a log that is generated on FreeBSD during the boot process. But I don't know how to access from the snap OS. Will try and get back with you.

FTP access can give root access, well, the most open i've found so far.

This is how i was able to get at the Java files

re3dyb0y
02-17-2006, 04:52 PM
Some news for you david

I jacked it into my pc and did some WD tests, and there are loads of bad blocks, i think thats the reason for the write errors

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d39/Reedy_Boy/WD2500JBDLGDIAG.jpg


So im taking it back on monday for replacement

mgeorge
02-17-2006, 09:36 PM
God, The last time I was was here was March 2003 - giving instructions on how to upgrade a SnapServer 1000 using OSX - That was like page 2 of the thread! And now it's at page 41. These SnapServers just have too much staying power... which brings me to my question. Would some kind soul direct me to SnapOSv4? I would like to see if it is worth my time to upgrade the Snaps I have.

Thanks.

blue68f100
02-17-2006, 10:41 PM
Depending on what you are trying to update. Some don't like the latest. Some can use it, but slows them down. Some don't have any problem. Large disk support can happen with v3.4.805 or v4. Some units can not support large disk.

Was I vague enough.

mgeorge
02-17-2006, 11:24 PM
One of the Snaps that I have -

Model 1000 series (1100 - 40 GB)
Software 3.4.803 (US)
Hardware 2.0.2
BIOS 3.4.758

What's the minimum requirement for large volume support ~ 250 GB?

BTW, your response wasn't any more vague then my original question. :)

re3dyb0y
02-18-2006, 03:34 AM
Im not sure what your asking

LBA-48 bit is 137GB


And i should've thought that that would upgrade, but when david comes back, he'll tell you for sure, as he has a better memory for these sort of things!

mgeorge
02-18-2006, 03:59 AM
Sorry, I meant that I had a 250 GB drive that could replace the 40 GB that is in the Snap presently.

Anyhow, don't sweat it guys.

After reviewing the list of other projects I have on the go, I've decided to give these Snaps to a buddy of mine and let him play around with them, if he wants.

Thanks for the quick replies.

later,
Mike

re3dyb0y
02-18-2006, 09:23 AM
The should do....

But with the 1 series, you would have to copy an image onto it!

blue68f100
02-18-2006, 03:14 PM
The 1000 would need v3.4.805 to support large disk. Do you know if your is v1 or v2 model? V1 all is needed for hd upgrade is to install it, after upgrading the os. V2 would require you to copy the boot tracks from old to new.

mgeorge
02-18-2006, 07:06 PM
Just a follow up. I have a WDC 250 GD installed into my Snap 1100 after I copied the boot tracks over per MY instructions in post#43. It booted just fine, I reformatted with "co de fo 10000 /reinit". Unfortunately, it only formatted out to 128,533 MB. My SnapOS software is 3.4.803. What do I have to install to get the full 250GB and how do I go about getting it?

Yeah, I know I said I was going to give it to a buddy, but I couldn't give up, not just yet.:D

Thanks,
Mike

blue68f100
02-18-2006, 08:40 PM
You need to get your eyes checked, 805

re3dyb0y
02-20-2006, 10:51 AM
Some good news

I've had my WD2500JB replaced today

Will try it tonight or something, or wednesday, as i've a day off

re3dyb0y
02-21-2006, 04:37 AM
It has also recently being taking ages to boot up.

Any ideas anyone?

blue68f100
02-21-2006, 09:08 AM
Look at your log and see if its running check disk or some other repair.

re3dyb0y
02-21-2006, 11:56 AM
It is just running the normal checks

I System Initialization : Initialization Complete! Memory to be released: 22105248 bytes. System 2/21/2006 10:18:19 AM
I File System : Opened FDB for device 0x10010 Disk 10010
Individual 2/21/2006 10:18:19 AM
I File System Check : partition is clean. Disk 10010
Individual 2/21/2006 10:18:19 AM
I File System Check : Executing fsck /dev/ride2a /fix Disk 10010
Individual 2/21/2006 10:18:19 AM
I File System : Opened FDB for device 0x10000 Disk 10000
Individual 2/21/2006 10:18:19 AM
I File System Check : partition is clean. Disk 10000
Individual 2/21/2006 10:18:19 AM
I File System Check : Executing fsck /dev/ride0a /fix Disk 10000
Individual 2/21/2006 10:18:19 AM
I File System : Opened FDB for device 0x10016 Disk (Priv) 2/21/2006 10:18:19 AM
I File System Check : partition is clean. Disk (Priv) 2/21/2006 10:18:16 AM
I File System Check : Executing fsck /dev/ride2g /fix /fixfatal Disk (Priv) 2/21/2006 10:18:16 AM
I File System : Opened FDB for device 0x10006 Disk (Priv) 2/21/2006 10:18:16 AM
I File System Check : partition is clean. Disk (Priv) 2/21/2006 10:18:16 AM
I File System Check : Executing fsck /dev/ride0g /fix /fixfatal Disk (Priv) 2/21/2006 10:18:16 AM



More than anything it is just a long time before it is accessible



Saying that, i just booted it back up again to get that model table, and it was up in reasonable "normal" time...

Maybe its just been having some bad shutdowns and such


Jrc: exiting Unknown 2/21/2006 5:02:11 PM
I Jrc.execute() starting Unknown 2/21/2006 5:02:11 PM
I Jrc created Unknown 2/21/2006 5:02:11 PM
I SnapOS.init() executed Unknown 2/21/2006 5:02:11 PM
I SnapExtension Framework 1.2 initialized Unknown 2/21/2006 5:02:10 PM
I No startup snaplets Unknown 2/21/2006 5:02:10 PM
I done Unknown 2/21/2006 5:02:10 PM
I building info for serversync.jar Unknown 2/21/2006 5:02:09 PM
I done Unknown 2/21/2006 5:02:09 PM
I building info for FtpSync.jar Unknown 2/21/2006 5:02:09 PM
I done Unknown 2/21/2006 5:02:09 PM
I building info for ssl.jar Unknown 2/21/2006 5:02:09 PM
I done Unknown 2/21/2006 5:02:09 PM
I building info for hello.jar Unknown 2/21/2006 5:02:07 PM
I Java: Native methods linked OK Unknown 2/21/2006 5:02:04 PM
I Jrc.main() starting Unknown 2/21/2006 5:02:03 PM
I System Initialization : Initialization Complete! Memory to be released: 22105248 bytes. System 2/21/2006 5:01:59 PM
I File System : Opened FDB for device 0x10010 Disk 10010
Individual 2/21/2006 5:01:59 PM
I File System Check : partition is clean. Disk 10010
Individual 2/21/2006 5:01:59 PM
I File System Check : Executing fsck /dev/ride2a /fix Disk 10010
Individual 2/21/2006 5:01:59 PM
I File System : Opened FDB for device 0x10000 Disk 10000
Individual 2/21/2006 5:01:59 PM
I File System Check : partition is clean. Disk 10000
Individual 2/21/2006 5:01:59 PM
I File System Check : Executing fsck /dev/ride0a /fix Disk 10000
Individual 2/21/2006 5:01:59 PM
I File System : Opened FDB for device 0x10016 Disk (Priv) 2/21/2006 5:01:59 PM
I File System Check : partition is clean. Disk (Priv) 2/21/2006 5:01:59 PM
I File System Check : Executing fsck /dev/ride2g /fix /fixfatal Disk (Priv) 2/21/2006 5:01:59 PM
I File System : Opened FDB for device 0x10006 Disk (Priv) 2/21/2006 5:01:59 PM
I File System Check : partition is clean. Disk (Priv) 2/21/2006 5:01:59 PM
I File System Check : Executing fsck /dev/ride0g /fix /fixfatal Disk (Priv) 2/21/2006 5:01:59 PM
I INIT: Setting IP address to 192.168.0.200 Network 2/21/2006 5:01:54 PM
S System Initialization : Server v4.0.860
Build Date: Mar 2 2005 17:50:55
Boot Count: 261 System 2/21/2006 5:01:54 PM


Saying that, when i resintalled the OS earlier, it had a few problems doing it, but i sorted that by using the web interface. But it hasn't really liked assist recently!


And sometimes it seems to boot, and not start up the hard drives

re3dyb0y
02-21-2006, 03:40 PM
Its now showing

I TH_targKill(2577e1c): unable to kill thread waiting for I/O Unknown 2/21/2006 5:15:16 PM
I TH_targKill(257a930): unable to kill thread waiting for I/O Unknown 2/21/2006 5:15:16 PM


Any ideas?

mmd30
02-21-2006, 09:50 PM
I tried to upgrade the java virtual machine, and I changed the BIOS version to 4 0 0 from 3 1 2 (in debug screen). The upgrade worked "fine" but because I forget to change it back to 3 1 2, now the server it's not accesible and the main LED it's blinking very fast. I tried the maintenance mode (to reset to the factory defaults) without results - this procedure doesn't change the BIOS. Is it anything that I could do to make it bootable again? Maybe changing the jumpers on that tiny motherboard ?

blue68f100
02-21-2006, 10:36 PM
Poogles,

It looks like something is hapening with JVM reporting unknown. May need to reinstall the OS and JVM again.

mmd30,

Your not the first one to get caught with a reboot. The rapid flashing is panic mode. I think what has worked is ???? oh yea, Do a factory reset, soon as the system light blinks 5/sec panic, turn the snap off with the power button (press hold). Restart after 1 min. Start assist, the unit may still go in panic mode, leave assist running it may take up to 1 hr till it times out and show up with assist. Connect with assist and change your bios setting back.

Loading JVM requires a min of 24 meg to, if you do not have a min of 64 meg, pref 128 to run properly. It all depends on what it is going on.

You failed to mention what you are working on, 1000 with 32 meg.

re3dyb0y
02-22-2006, 03:39 AM
Poogles,

It looks like something is hapening with JVM reporting unknown. May need to reinstall the OS and JVM again.


Yay!

My favourite Activity.....

It has probably got something to do with the fact of me just copying and over writing some of the old Java files..... More apps tho

re3dyb0y
02-22-2006, 03:42 AM
I File System : Closed FDB for device 0x10006 Disk (Priv) 2/22/2006 8:40:15 AM
I File System : Closed FDB for device 0x10010 Disk 10010
Individual 2/22/2006 8:40:13 AM
I File System : Closed FDB for device 0x10000 Disk 10000
Individual 2/22/2006 8:40:13 AM
I TH_targKill(2573a78): unable to kill thread waiting for I/O Unknown 2/22/2006 8:40:03 AM
I TH_targKill(245fda4): unable to kill thread waiting for I/O Unknown 2/22/2006 8:40:03 AM
I Java: forcing System.exit(0) Unknown 2/22/2006 8:39:59 AM
I System Shutdown : In Progress... System 2/22/2006 8:39:59 AM
I System Shutdown : in 3 seconds System 2/22/2006 8:39:56 AM


Me thinks you may be right....

Will try it later on

eduardo
02-22-2006, 04:57 AM
Gentlemen,

I salute you for providing all the information on Snap Servers that a man could possibly need. I'm now at about three hours of reading and cross-referencing about my particular problem and wonder if one of the true experts could confirm my findings before I spend some money?

I have a quantity of 2200s that came from a UK Govt site and have therefore been comprehensively wiped.....I guess by removing the drives and hammering them with some generic data-wiping tool. The obvious result is that they are currently without OS and useless!

I believe from reading this and other threads that I could restore them if I had access to either a working 2200 or the image of a working disk. Is this right?

Could anyone help me with either item?

re3dyb0y
02-22-2006, 05:25 AM
David - Reinstalled OS with no avail, reinstalling the JVM seemed to sort it, but it has come back agian

Doesn't seem to cause any problem, so i wont worry aobut it

And the new drive - 170GB of data copied with no problems!


eduardo, yes you are correct. They can be revived, please email me for details. Its case of copying the contents of the image onto the drive, stick it in the snap and then you are sort of away when it decides to sort itself out

If they had put it in a windows machine it wouldnt show anything anyway.

blue68f100
02-22-2006, 09:43 AM
Googles,

I TH_targKill(2573a78): unable to kill thread waiting for I/O Unknown 2/22/2006 8:40:03 AM
I TH_targKill(245fda4): unable to kill thread waiting for I/O Unknown 2/22/2006 8:40:03 AM
I Java: forcing System.exit(0) Unknown 2/22/2006 8:39:59 AM

You may have need to do a clean install. Before you get to far ahead. If you had some java script running, reinstall it, or try killing it.

Eduardo,

As poogles said, we can get the 2200 snaps back to life. As for hd, most came factory with 2 x 160gig (320gig) or greater. I have 2 300gigs in mine, there was another user looking at installing 500's. Having a quanity of these units must be nice. Hopefully you got the power supply that goes with them. If you got any 2000, or 4x00 series, the OS is stored in flash. All that is need for those in install the drives, then transfer the drive to the 2200's.

As for the reading material, This is a pretty active thread, mainly due to Adaptec wanting to charge $125.00us for support.

re3dyb0y
02-22-2006, 04:25 PM
Googles,
You may have need to do a clean install. Before you get to far ahead. If you had some java script running, reinstall it, or try killing it.




Typical, i've just copied all the files accross and removed some again from the plaecs i had them stored....

I will try removing S2S and stuff to see if that soves it

re3dyb0y
02-22-2006, 05:17 PM
Just turned off the snap extensions and upon next reboot, no messages

Also, there is twice as much free ram, nearer 42mb rather than 22 it seems.

I will try manually removing all the java files from the snap server via full FTP access to the os_private.

Restart, and install the JVM and see if it comes up again, then S2S and etc


Or would resintalling the OS Clear the java? - I think it would, wouldn't i (Im sure before this happend ie reinstalling os clears JVM)

re3dyb0y
02-22-2006, 05:24 PM
Ive also noticed that it resarts in 60 seconds when it boots correctly (ie, when it boots and starts the drives)

As maybe 1 in 5 it doesnt seem to start up the hard drives

eduardo
02-23-2006, 06:59 AM
I'm locked in a semi-darkened room with a Snap Server, an old-favourite PC, a knoppix CD, an image file and bread-and-water rations.....I will let you know what happens when I re-emerge.

blue68f100
02-23-2006, 09:22 AM
Poogles,

I think the only way to completely clean it, would be to wipe your drive or manually like you are talking about. Re-installing would only overwrite the files being copied, not any thay you may have added.

Atleast you have a handle on it. You've done the hard part already, pin-pointing the source.

As for eduardo,

Someone baricade the door ...... Since locking the door want keep him in.

re3dyb0y
02-23-2006, 10:01 AM
Poogles,

I think the only way to completely clean it, would be to wipe your drive or manually like you are talking about. Re-installing would only overwrite the files being copied, not any thay you may have added.

At least you have a handle on it. You've done the hard part already, pin-pointing the source.

As for eduardo,

Someone baricade the door ...... Since locking the door want keep him in.


Yeah, i've disabled the JVM for the moment, so that will be able to delete all the files, restart, and try reinstalling

eduardo
02-23-2006, 10:43 AM
Eduardo emerges, blinking, into the light, downs a hearty beer and announces to the waiting world, "I have a working Snap Server!"

However, it's on OS 3.4.790: is my upgrade path cut-off? I note that Ad*pt*c website doesn't have upgrades if you are below 4.0.x

blue68f100
02-23-2006, 12:02 PM
Have you checked to see what HW and BIOS version you are at.

And what size HD did you install?

It gets better, yours should support HD >137gig.

Save you self some problems and Buy Hitachi or Seagates.

eduardo
02-24-2006, 04:04 AM
I'm at H/W 2.0.4 and BIOS 3.4.758.

I've got some 2200s with two 80Gb and some with two 160Gb: I guess I don't need to go to OS 4.x.x. for the Dual 80Gbs as they will work as they are.

re3dyb0y
02-24-2006, 09:24 AM
Im sure me or david can help out there eduardo!

No from 3.4.790, you can move to 4.0.830, then .860 if you want

When at .860 you cannot downgrade!

blue68f100
02-24-2006, 09:50 AM
The 80 are pretty small by todays standards. I would bump the OS to v3.4.805 with the 80 gigs, So if you decide to upgrade, it will take it. And again the 2200 handle v4 with out any problem.

dgoodrich
02-25-2006, 12:30 PM
What does .860 give you that .830 doesn't? Also, refresh my memory, which machines have had problems with .860? I have a 2000 with s/n 58328.

blue68f100
02-25-2006, 12:50 PM
Your SN is past the 27k that had the problems. If you 2000 is the v2 model with DIMMs memory NO PROBLEM.
MS 2003 active directory support was added to 860. SO if your are not running MS 2003 server, no gain. for the Extra overhead.

techgod91711
02-25-2006, 09:30 PM
What are the specs for a 1000 power supply? I've seen some number tossed around, but I need to know how large the barrel is, and what the diameter is. Can someone please pass that on to me.

Thanks

blue68f100
02-26-2006, 09:45 AM
My 2200 PS is made by E.P.S. Inc. Model #F1670K Output 12vDC, 3.5amps. The Plug for a 1000 is 5 1/2mm OD x 2mm ID. I hope this helps. I have a 1000 here needing repair, the person did not have the original PS, 12vDC 2.5Amps. The plug deminisions given were from the 1000, which I'm pretty sure the 1000 and 2200 are the same. The power supply for the 1000 may have a lower rating due to only one drive.

Shadowqueen
02-27-2006, 01:02 PM
Hi @ all,

now I am a proud owner of a Snap Server 1000. :nod:
Itīs already updated to the new OS and has a 250GB Harddisk.

Now my questions, and I hope you all can help me.
1. Why is it that I lose around 15GB of space for the system, that seams a bit much?

2. Has someone tried to change the frequency to 40 and 50 Mhz Bus
possibly by changing the frequency-crystal?

3. Has someone tried to run a torrent-client as SnapExtension on the Snap?

If not, I hope you all can provide some directions so I can get to my goals, and report my findings back to you. As an addicted PC-Freak and Modder I just canīt stay the temptation......;)

Many thanks
Chris

blue68f100
02-27-2006, 02:06 PM
15 gig is approx 6% which is normal. The capacity stated on all drives, is raw unformated. Once you set one up, it requires space to keep all of the directory tables and indexes. The OS only takes about 25 meg.

No one has tried bumping the frequency. The old processor want handle a speed boost on the FSB.

As for running torrent-client.

These units are not design like a true Server. If your ram is upgradeable you maybe able to run some java script. If you have the JVM Liense key. JVM requires a minimum of 25 meg to run the deamon. This normally runs on the larger units, 4x00 with a min of 64 meg of ram. The unix flavor is a modified FreeBSD system. This is a closed OS. Meaning that it is not design to run external applications. You could setup your pc and desinate the snap for file storage.

I hope this answers your question.

By the way what is your HW, BIOS, OS version.

re3dyb0y
02-27-2006, 02:17 PM
Also, porting the Apps to snap usable format isn't an easy job!

viRXes
02-27-2006, 07:59 PM
First of all, let me say, "HOLY SCHNIKES!!" This is the single longest thread on any forum that I've ever been on (and I've worked in IT for 14 years)!

So I have the same situation as MANY others on this forum before me: I would like to upgrade my Snap Server 4000 but I need the version 4 software. Can anyone help me out? I am a systems engineer (Windows/Email/Networking/Etc.) and shouldn't really need much help getting it installed or anything. I just need SnapOS 4 so that I can take advantage of larger drives and see if I can get Windows Server 2003 to recognize it.

Anyway, here's my specs:

Software: 2.4.437
Hardware: 2.0.1
Serial #: 304810
BIOS: 2.0.282

I would very much appreciate it if someone could help me out by emailing me the software or a link to it! And in return I promise to send you wishes for a long life, great high-tech toys, and a neverending series of good dinners! Now that's good karma! :-)

Thanks!
Tony
(treynolds@yipes.com)

blue68f100
02-27-2006, 09:52 PM
Yep .. Were pretty proud of this one.

Most new commers start a new thread. Too lazy to read 5+ hrs of posts.

You will need 2 different versions to get Server 2003 support. The first v4.0.830 then the patch 4.0.860.

Recommend backing off all data. Knock it back to JBOD before doing the updates. If you install large disk you will need to boost the ram at least to 128meg. Other wise it really gets slow, Software RAID in this model.

Shadowqueen
02-28-2006, 12:53 PM
Thx blue,
for your quick answer.
Now that sorts some things out.

But I am not willing to give up that easy! ;-)
So I will try to bump up the frequency and report back about my test, cause I think the transfer-speed is related to memory and frequency of the chip. If needed I will think about some cooling solution. ;-)

Last but not least the torrent.
Now I wonder has someone ever tried to get linux running on our beasts?
If Adaptec is able to get a modified FreeBSD running, why shouldnt we be able to get Linux running? Now I am far from being an expert, but I have a friend I might get to the job. That is if we get mor information about the beast.
Is there any tech-dokumentation available? I think the trick is to tell the bios to boot form the harddisk and not from the flash....

So anyone interessted to help out? ;-)

Shadowqueen
02-28-2006, 12:54 PM
BTW I will update my sig as soon as the beast is in my hands
(mem, chip, bios, os-version, etc.)

halon1211
03-03-2006, 03:49 PM
Greetings everyone

I agree with viRXes on the sheer length and age of this topic. I've tried many, many steps in this thread to get my 1100 working and I'm about 50% there.

First issue: The main problem I keep running into is that I have to run through the 4x factory reset deal every time I turn the thing on. Shortly after the OS loads I can get to it from a browser. However, it eventually locks up and loses all connectivity. If I want to continue working on it, I have to perform the reset steps again. The original drive was a Maxtor MaxLine 250GB drive (ATA-133). Seeing a good number of posts mentioning the SnapServers didn't play well with ATA-133 drives I swapped it with an ATA-100 DeathStar. Same deal. I've upgraded the OS from 3.4.805 to 4.0.850 and no change. The status lights indicate the system is functioning normally, but no ping.

Second issue: If I pull the power and plug it back in (without the reset steps), the SnapServer comes back online and prompts me for a username and password for "access". Nothing works; not even the defaults outlined on Adaptec's website. All in all I've spent about 72 total hours on this thing and I would hate to give up and pitch it.

re3dyb0y
03-03-2006, 04:19 PM
We are hopefully going to start putting the information into the procooling wiki


You could maybe try removing the CMOS battery for a little while

blue68f100
03-03-2006, 09:44 PM
Some of the problems posted here never seams to amaze me, what ever happen to a simple drive change.

Halon1211, is the cooling fan working? May be overheating.

I would also check the output on the powepac, underload. Check outputs at drive connections too. While you got it open take a close look at the caps.

halon1211
03-03-2006, 10:18 PM
Removing the CMOS coin cell battery didn't do anything unfortunately.:cry: I did check the caps, all look ok. The fan works, it's almost deafeningly loud. I highly doubt it matters, but the drive I cloned from was out of a friend's Quantum SnapServer 1100. And his works perfectly. It doesn't have any of these problems. Seriously though, this is totally ridiculous... I'm still stumped at what the the "access" l/p could be. I did find a useful link out of this and I still can't remember how I got to it...

http://www.snapappliance.com/page.cfm?name=snapservertroubleshooting_2&nav=support#1089690

BTW: With the 850 update, can these things run ok in a 2003 Server environment??

re3dyb0y
03-04-2006, 11:58 AM
I think you need .860

halon1211
03-04-2006, 02:23 PM
I tried the 250GB MaxLine in my friend's Quantum SnapServer and it took just fine (w/ the v3.4.805 OS). I left it on over night and when I came back this morning it was still up on the network. So maybe its something with the mobo on mine? I ran the 4.0.850 OS upgrade on the Quantum and it went flawlessly. Here are the specs on each:

Quantum SnapServer
Software 4.0.860 (US)
Hardware: 2.0.2
Server: 162502
BIOS: 3.4.758

SnapAppliance SnapServer
Software: 3.4.805 (US)
Hardware: 2.0.2
Server: 204754
BIOS: 4.0.855

The only differences are the software and BIOS versions. I can't seem to get an OS update on the SnapAppliance though; it's stuck in a disk check loop. It gets about 85% through and locks up no matter if it follows a reset or just pulling the plug.

blue68f100
03-04-2006, 04:06 PM
I wonder if you have a bad memory chip or others overheating.
Do you have any quick cool, Flood the controller board and see if it responds. Certain functions require intense memory and cpu functions added heat.

My 2000 that was toasted, acts the same way.

The post from Snap Appliance is in the admin manual for my 2000. I'v transfered the data into a word doc if you need it.

Poogles was correct on MS AD support, requires 860.

halon1211
03-07-2006, 05:32 PM
It was the board that was bad. I got the MaxLine hdd in the Quantum and it's been up for three days without one single problem. I've set permissions, rebooted, transferred data to and from it, etc. :doh:

BootsMan
03-07-2006, 07:41 PM
I have two Dell 705N(4100) servers and need to upgrade SnapOS to 4.x, because I'm moving to 2003 domain and 3.x version is not supporting 2003 Domain.

So far from this topic I found this instructions:
-----------------
1) Go to the device's debug screen at http://{nas}/config/debug (using your own nas name or IP address of course, you'll be prompted for a login).
2) You'll then be prompted for debug commands, enter "bios unlock".
3) Now that the device is unlocked, enter command "bios oem none".
4) And then relock the device using "bios lock".
-----------------

Found couple posts from poogles_uk with ftp link to SnapOS to 4.x, but it's marked with ********.

Here is what I get from my system:
-----------------
PIC Version 1.0, Capibilities 0x00
Failsafe v2.4.437.FS Tue Aug 15 15:23:18 2000
Bios stamp 2.4.437 Tue Aug 15 15:23:15 2000
Plat Bytes 2.2.1
Model Byte 2
Flash failsafe sector not locked(30)

Product: 2 - "Laser/Spinnaker: 4 drive IDE" - Platform Bytes "2.2.1"
Server-3.4.790, Build Date: Mar 21 2002 20:16:10
This is the NON-Debug executable, and was built by KEVIN
-----------------

As far as I understand I need first v4.0.830 then the patch 4.0.860.

Please help!

My email is alex at covers.com

Thanks,
Alex.

re3dyb0y
03-08-2006, 02:29 AM
Some of the problems posted here never seams to amaze me, what ever happen to a simple drive change.

Halon1211, is the cooling fan working? May be overheating.

I would also check the output on the powepac, underload. Check outputs at drive connections too. While you got it open take a close look at the caps.


I know, that is all i did originally, but when i needed more space i tried on the offfchance


All our ftp sites have been removed for legal reasons/taken down by the owner


BootsMan - Correct, will pm you back later today

re3dyb0y
03-08-2006, 02:34 AM
Thx blue,
for your quick answer.
Now that sorts some things out.

But I am not willing to give up that easy! ;-)
So I will try to bump up the frequency and report back about my test, cause I think the transfer-speed is related to memory and frequency of the chip. If needed I will think about some cooling solution. ;-)

Last but not least the torrent.
Now I wonder has someone ever tried to get linux running on our beasts?
If Adaptec is able to get a modified FreeBSD running, why shouldnt we be able to get Linux running? Now I am far from being an expert, but I have a friend I might get to the job. That is if we get mor information about the beast.
Is there any tech-dokumentation available? I think the trick is to tell the bios to boot form the harddisk and not from the flash....

So anyone interessted to help out? ;-)

Well, me and david have come across a bit of information recntly that gives a lot more info about the OS files

I would help out, and im sure david (blue) would

What do you have in mind?


Would be good tg make them as useful as a NSLU2 or something!

BootsMan
03-08-2006, 11:14 PM
Thanks everybody for the help! I have both PV705N(4100) working with SnapOS v4.0.860 and 2003 Domain!

Remmington.Smit
03-09-2006, 07:15 PM
I will freely admit I am stupid to begin with but I will try to explain the condition by saying that I haven't slept in about 36 hours.

I wrote an NTFS signature on my Snap 1000 primary drive and now all it will do is blink the end lights at me.

Is there anywhere I can find an image of a boot drive for this beast so that I can reimage and revive it?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

blue68f100
03-09-2006, 08:05 PM
End light being "DISK"

There are 2 different models of the 1000. You said pri drive ? Does it have 2 drives or just one?

Early model 1000 (v1) stored the os in flashram. V2 uses a std boot rom bios. They use different image files.

If its a version 1, you should be able to login to the admin page as before.

Remmington.Smit
03-09-2006, 08:32 PM
This started out with one 30G drive but I was experimenting with adding a secondary 80G drive. That worked fine. :)

Then I decided to plug the 30G drive into a Firewire enclosure to try and read the filestructure on my WinXP box..... :doh:

Label inside says FAD-00018 REV. B.

Device had been upgraded to 4.0.830 before I started experimenting.

blue68f100
03-09-2006, 09:21 PM
The snap uses a modified XFS unix file system. Windows can not read nor any others for that matter. DD from the knoppix CD can read and copy drive sectors.

Remmington.Smit
03-10-2006, 12:31 AM
Hmmmm, on further poking around it may actually be an 1100 rather than a 1000.

Drop in the original or a new drive and it ends up going to a state where the system and drive lights are blinking with the drive light blinking twice for each time the system light blinks.

Is there any way to use the .sup files from the upgrade software to reimage the drives?

re3dyb0y
03-10-2006, 02:14 AM
You can do it from the web interface

/or by using assist

blue68f100
03-10-2006, 03:35 PM
Remington,

There is 1 state, the 1x00's get locked in, when making it act like a 2000. The light seq is 1 blink with SYS+DISK then 2 blink with disk. No one have been able to break the loop. The light seq indicates that it is waiting for IP address, via default NetBaue. I have one here in that same state. I don't have an old old server running that protocol.

Tom S
03-11-2006, 05:54 AM
Does Anyone have an image for a snap server 1100. I have tried everywhere. so far this forum has provided the most information but I don't know where to get an image. i have 4 snap servers 1100 for different clients and all of them are DEAD. Thanks for using great maxtor hard drives.....

Someone please please please help

blue68f100
03-11-2006, 12:48 PM
Loosing 5 all at the same time is a little odd, You would at least expect a little warning.
I don't like maxtor drive either, they have allways been noisey, and run hot. I use either Seagates (5 yr warranty) or Hitachi drives. If you have any 2200 around the image from it will work.

re3dyb0y
03-12-2006, 01:55 AM
Maxtor drives are only good if they are SCSI ones!

shadowman
03-12-2006, 09:58 PM
I have had more trouble with Maxtor drives than any of the other brands. Upon opening up a crashed Maxtor drive, I was suprised they were mostly made of plastic parts for the spindle assembly. Then I opened up a Western Digital and they use mostly metal. I guess you get what you pay for.

RULE OF THUMB FOR ME.....NEVER BUILD A FILE SERVER WITH A MAXTOR BEING YOUR WEAKEST LINK!

SM

Tom S
03-13-2006, 06:26 AM
Well I have the image. THANKS PAL.
now it's time to play.
BTW I had success before copying this drvie with HDClone. free edition.
took 24 hours at least but it worked :) to bad I didn't make an image file for it...

blue68f100
03-13-2006, 09:35 AM
I don't know what it was reading that took 24 hrs. On Snap servers you only need the first 25 meg, this is where the boot tracks lay (os). Now if you are talking about a raid 5 build, 24 hr is common.

Tom S
03-13-2006, 06:12 PM
Nah it was a regular drive. 250 GB but the free version of clone cd is very slow
and it copied the entire drive. I guess i could have been smart about it and told it to only copy the first partition but I really didn't know what to copy. so when in doubt :)

BTW i have since used digital dolly and upgraded the OS. Wow it worked awesome. THANKS SO MUCH..... this has made my month...

Tom S
03-13-2006, 06:15 PM
Was the Last os for the 1100 5.X?
I have 4.086 but for some reason I thought there was one after that.

blue68f100
03-13-2006, 09:42 PM
4.0.860 is the latest I know of. I would not expect any more since Adaptec bought them.

All of the newer ones are using the Guardian OS.

Havn't checked to see if they have a new one. Each version uses a little more ram than the previous. It's not always a good idea to be upgrading just to be upgrading. Some of the 2000's (v1, simms) is a good example of that.

nmb
03-17-2006, 04:50 AM
4.0.860 is the latest I know of. I would not expect any more since Adaptec bought them.

All of the newer ones are using the Guardian OS.

Havn't checked to see if they have a new one. Each version uses a little more ram than the previous. It's not always a good idea to be upgrading just to be upgrading. Some of the 2000's (v1, simms) is a good example of that.


hello. I just noticed that you have a 2200 with upgraded drives.

on if my 2200 just had mechanical problems on one drive and bad sectors on the other. all data is lost. Just bought two new seagate 120GB drives but my 2200 does not recognize them!

any help is appreciated!

re3dyb0y
03-17-2006, 06:15 AM
hello. I just noticed that you have a 2200 with upgraded drives.

on if my 2200 just had mechanical problems on one drive and bad sectors on the other. all data is lost. Just bought two new seagate 120GB drives but my 2200 does not recognize them!

any help is appreciated!

Im presuming you have 2 dead drives, and with either in master, you cannot boot the unit?

If so, you need to contact me or david to obtain the tools to set up a new drive and get it bootable again

re3dyb0y
03-17-2006, 06:16 AM
4.0.860 is the latest I know of. I would not expect any more since Adaptec bought them.

All of the newer ones are using the Guardian OS.

Havn't checked to see if they have a new one. Each version uses a little more ram than the previous. It's not always a good idea to be upgrading just to be upgrading. Some of the 2000's (v1, simms) is a good example of that.

Sounds about right

Over a year since a OS v4 update, i think they are just keeping it for the smaller units, and haven't had to make any changes so haven't done so.

The guardian seems to be coming into main use!

nmb
03-17-2006, 06:27 AM
Im presuming you have 2 dead drives, and with either in master, you cannot boot the unit?

If so, you need to contact me or david to obtain the tools to setup a new drive and get it bootable again

I can boot the unit with the drive with the bad sectors. but stays forever on the 5% checking always on the same sector.

I'm sending you an email ;)

re3dyb0y
03-17-2006, 06:33 AM
Yeah, its dead then

However. But if you can get into the debug panel, you may be able to use it to make a new drive

Try sticking the one that works in primary, and the new one in secondary

See if it formats it and such

blue68f100
03-17-2006, 09:14 AM
If you got one that is bootable, just copy the boot tracks with dd. Don't ever worry about formating. With the drive failing, it will self destruct more every time you start it up.

When I get any computer with a failing drive. I make a ghost set of the drive. This way I can extract all data that is readable without degrading the drive any more. Time is of the essence. Particulary if its the meda failing. Every time you start it up you dammage it more. All that has to happen is to have the heads hangs on the bad section and damage the heads, then your sol. But since ghost has problem with the snap format, use dd to copy the first 25 meg, the boot section with OS.

turbops
03-17-2006, 09:56 AM
Fist wanted to start off stating this is a great site. Lots of usefull information.

"I have read this forum SEVERAL times but must be missing something."

I have the following i am trying to upgrade.

Model: Snap 1000
Software: 3.4.803
Hardware: 3.1.2
BIOS: 2.1.3.66



I have susfully upgraded my Snap1000 Using DOLLY as my tool to a WD 80-gig HD. It was a snap. Here is where im running into trouble. I have gotten greedy and want more. I have several 120-gig drives.

Drive #1. Segate Barracuda 120-GIG
Trouble. SNAP now only sees the drive as a 40-gig.

Drive#2. WD 120-gig Caviar.
Trouble. Snap does not even see the drive.

Drive#3. Same as above but pulled directly out of box.

Do i need to upgrade to OS V4.0? If so where can i obtain a copy?

I am a newbe to the site so please dont draw to much blood. Some bashing :hammer: is expected.

nmb
03-17-2006, 10:38 AM
If you got one that is bootable, just copy the boot tracks with dd. Don't ever worry about formating. With the drive failing, it will self destruct more every time you start it up.

When I get any computer with a failing drive. I make a ghost set of the drive. This way I can extract all data that is readable without degrading the drive any more. Time is of the essence. Particulary if its the meda failing. Every time you start it up you dammage it more. All that has to happen is to have the heads hangs on the bad section and damage the heads, then your sol. But since ghost has problem with the snap format, use dd to copy the first 25 meg, the boot section with OS.

can you help me with the dd comand? I'm using a mac os x laptop so dd is part of the system. if necessary I can get hold of a pc desktop.

thank you so much for your help.

re3dyb0y
03-17-2006, 12:31 PM
Try http://wiki.procooling.com/index.php/Write_IMG_To_HD_with_DD

I dont know if you can do it with a Mac

The Most common way is on a PC with a knoppix bootable CD

blue68f100
03-17-2006, 01:20 PM
The new mac's are runing unix (freebsd). Just need to get into terminal mode. All should work the same.

re3dyb0y
03-17-2006, 02:21 PM
Ah rete

Fair Enough

45 Pages....



I thought the whole mac os was just a BSD derivative

turbops
03-17-2006, 06:25 PM
Ok.

This is what i found. I hve messed with my 2 WD 120-gig drives almost all day, Odd but the snap server never did find them. Oh well I must move on.

Since my Snap did see my Segate 120-gig drive i decided to move on with this drive. I have been messing with my Segate 120-gig drive for hours. Originally no matter what i did the Snap 1000 was only seeing the drive as a 40-gig. At the time i was using the following command while in "Debug" mode per all the instructions.

config devices format 10000 /reinit.

still nothing. only showing 40-gig. After looking at the following link provided a few hours ago for a unrelated issue.

Snap Server Help Wiki - http://wiki.procooling.com/index.php/Snap_Server

I happend to notice a diffrent command line.

co de format 10000 /reinit

At this point I was willing to try anything. As to my GREAT supprise this command line worked. How off is that! I have since gotten greedy again and purchased a 250-gig WD hard drive for both my Snap 1000 and Snap 1100, Upgraded and both are running great sofar.

Just a quick note.

I used DOLLY to copy over the info from the original Snap drive to the new drives. I got extramly tired of watching this program run for hours and hours. I took some more of your posts info about only needing the first 10-meg of data off the drives. Much faster and was done in minutes instead of hours. here is the command line I used for Dolly.

DOLLY xhd128:0-1000000 xhd129:1000000 /i

I am still looking for Snap OS of 3.4.805 or the newer 4. if any one would like to share.

blue68f100
03-17-2006, 08:39 PM
turbops,

Generally we copy the first 25 meg. The upgrade file is 29 meg. Your cmd line is a little different from the PC. I assume 128 and 129 are the drive ID, what does the /i mean? V2 10000 uses the same image file as the 1100 and 2200's. There is a difference in the OS's with units that have flashram.

Which flavor of OS-X do you have? 10.4

turbops
03-17-2006, 09:06 PM
Question.

Since I only copied the first 10-meg is that going to pose a problem. Sofar all seems to be A ok. I have not put them 100% in the network and copied my file on them yet.

As for the 128 and 129. Yes these are the drive ID's. 128-Master and 129-Slave. the /I in DOLLY is Ignore errors. I was told to sure the /I in case there are some bad clusters on the HD.

For the cloning i was using a MS-DOS boot disk with DOLLY.

re3dyb0y
03-18-2006, 03:55 AM
The first 10mb contains boot tracks and so, so its used to get the unit booting

IF you do a co de config /reinit or whatever, that will reformat it and make sure its all snappy

Then just stick a OS update on and your fine!

turbops
03-18-2006, 12:25 PM
I was informed most copy the first 25-meg not 10-meg. I have since figured out what is missing. It is not service effecting in any way. I am missing the Snap Help files. Then again the help files were just no help to me anyway so its really no big loss.

re3dyb0y
03-18-2006, 01:53 PM
Mine has been Panicking again.....

Link light on, system light flashing really quickly....

Unable to access it!

blue68f100
03-18-2006, 05:09 PM
re3dyb0y, You have been having problems with that 2200. In your highly secure/confidential 1000v2 files setup instructions, there is a procedure for clearing panic mode. It is for when OS install fails.

blue68f100
03-18-2006, 05:11 PM
I was informed most copy the first 25-meg not 10-meg. I have since figured out what is missing. It is not service effecting in any way. I am missing the Snap Help files. Then again the help files were just no help to me anyway so its really no big loss.

If you do any updates to the OS you should get them back.

re3dyb0y
03-18-2006, 06:34 PM
re3dyb0y, You have been having problems with that 2200. In your highly secure/confidential 1000v2 files setup instructions, there is a procedure for clearing panic mode. It is for when OS install fails.


Is there?

I think i need to have a look see

Can you email me where incase i cant find it

EDIT: Where am i looking david?


I've only been having problems since i changed to this WD2500JB

re3dyb0y
03-18-2006, 06:43 PM
The Model 1000 is unique in that it’s operating system resides on the hard drive.

Backs up what we thought

re3dyb0y
03-19-2006, 06:44 AM
Just ran it for a while with just the 250 turned on and its fine

Will try just the 80

Then try swapping the mobo with both in

re3dyb0y
03-19-2006, 07:56 AM
Just had it on with just the 80 and its fine

Ill try both in again and see

And if it crashes, will try my 2nd mobo



EDIT: Im thinking it is the motherboard, as it seems not to want to boot sometimes with 2 drives.... Never had that with 1 drive connected

jontz
03-19-2006, 08:56 AM
I don't know much about the 2200's. Do they have 2 IDE headers on the mobo or is it one cable with 2 IDE connectors on it like you would find in a PC? I am just wondering if you possibly have a bad IDE cable. Sounds stupid, but just a thought...

blue68f100
03-19-2006, 09:53 AM
jontz, the 2200 has 2 promise controllers. Each drive is independent. I think the same board can be used is the 4200. The cables are only 2 - 3" long. If it was a cable problem I would suspect it would report a drive problem. He has 2 different mfg and drive sizes, the reason he is in JBOD config, Instead of a RAID 0 or 1. I was wondering if he was having a cooling problem.

re3dyb0y
03-19-2006, 10:32 AM
jontz, the 2200 has 2 promise controllers. Each drive is independent. I think the same board can be used is the 4200. The cables are only 2 - 3" long. If it was a cable problem I would suspect it would report a drive problem. He has 2 different mfg and drive sizes, the reason he is in JBOD config, Instead of a RAID 0 or 1. I was wondering if he was having a cooling problem.

Fan is fine

It is fine with either drive independantly

So im now trying the 250 plugged in on IDE and power, and the maxtor just on power....

I could try putting that other fan on, just its not very good on the outside!

re3dyb0y
03-19-2006, 11:17 AM
Most of the times when it crashes im getting the

F Call Stack :
$00105131
$002D1454
$002D8496
$002DF71A
$002B2187
$002B0957
$002BC3D6
$002BD7B6
$002B1EDF
$002B07E5
$002BC2B4
$002B0AAC
$0010413C
$001041F6
================================
System 3/18/2006 5:24:36 PM
F PANIC : Maximum yield time exceeded at $002BCEC4 System 3/18/2006 5:24:36 PM


Again




I wonder if it is thed drive? Does it not like the WD2500JB??? I think i will need to do a block check on it to see if its bad also

re3dyb0y
03-19-2006, 01:00 PM
Right

LEft it for a while with the 250 on both, and the 80 just powered

Seems fine

Will try changing the boards

blue68f100
03-19-2006, 01:23 PM
There are 2 different version of the 1000. V1 has the OS stored in flashram. V2 is like the 1100 with OS stored on the HD. Like there are 2 different version of the 2000. The only difference is hardware setup SIMMS vs DIMMS memory chips. Both store OS in flashram.

Call stack is generally a memory location, cpu cache or ram. But it said max time execed, which could be a problem with a controller board on one of the drives. If I had to guess it would be the Maxtor.

I had ram fail on one of my seagate drives, that was in my 2000, as a result of a fan failure. I actually lost both drives. Some reason they did not like the execesive temp.

re3dyb0y
03-19-2006, 01:55 PM
Yeah, its either that or the controllers or something on the main board

Thinking about it, i had plugged the Maxtor into the primary ide slot, i will try it just in the secondary and see what happens.... Cause it was fine in the primary, so it could be the motherboard....

I cant remember what was the stated problem with the mobo. As with both in it sometimes fails to boot

If it fails to boot proparly first time with a drive just ont he 2nd, i think it is the board

blue68f100
03-19-2006, 02:22 PM
Mine is hard to start too, but its the switch. I have to wiggle for it to start some times. It is normal to hold the power button for 5 sec before starting. Mine runs 24/7 powered from my ups unit.

re3dyb0y
03-19-2006, 02:38 PM
I dont mean that

I mean it starts up, but doesn't proparly boot - Ie become accessible, and the link doesn't become active

Not hard to turn on! Lol

Just changed the drive positions and when first booting the boot failed!



And im getting these Maximun Yield errors on shutdown

Im not sure if these shutdowns when it tries to restart to recover from the errors...

Will try the other board tonight/tommorow

blue68f100
03-19-2006, 02:49 PM
That indicates damaged boot tracks, or os. Do you have another drive that you can load the image file on?

re3dyb0y
03-19-2006, 03:23 PM
I could

But the thing is that i haven't had any problems with either drive seperately...

so its Really rather strange

I will try the other board and see. Cause i dont think i ever/only rarely had that with the old 2 80GB's


It seems to crash when i haven't been on the web panel...

blue68f100
03-19-2006, 05:05 PM
Could it be related to different mfg and size? Not matched.

blue68f100
03-19-2006, 05:15 PM
Good luck, At least you have a spare MB to try.

re3dyb0y
03-19-2006, 05:22 PM
Possibly

But i've just had it with the MAxtor in master for a while and its been fine

Except the fallse boot i think i had (cant remember now)

So tommorow i will try a new board, and do the same checks again, if i get false boots i know its a drive


Im planning on getting a 300GB SATA Seagate Drive for my windows server on friday, so i can use that to easily make a backup, then be able to do full sector checks on each drive

As if it is the WD, im not having a WD to replace it. Ill insist on a Seagate 250


I would have the other 80gb if i hadn't had to use it in my brothers pc

I think it is more likely to be the WD, as the maxtors were fine, and its giving similar errors as before, except when not writing!

Will let you know

re3dyb0y
03-20-2006, 12:32 PM
Changed it over, and it booted happily!

I'll see how it goes

It also has 3.4.758 bios rather than .703....

I think the shares, users and such are saved on the motherboard....


Will let you know how it goes!


Sam

re3dyb0y
03-20-2006, 12:36 PM
Hmm,

On the server log also, its only showing major items, not all the mini steps

Anyone any ideas?

Cheers


Sam

blue68f100
03-20-2006, 02:12 PM
You are right with that info stored on the MB, in specific I think it stored in flashram.

re3dyb0y
03-20-2006, 04:17 PM
Well its been on bout 4 hours now and its been fine

Usually would've fallen over or done something wrong

re3dyb0y
03-20-2006, 05:35 PM
Thats 5 hours and all fine

Going to turn it off for the night as it is rahter noisy, and doesn't make sleeping easy

Will try booting tommorow and such

I think it is solved

If anyone has any ideas about the server log - ie why it isnt showing in detailed information, id be interested to know!

Cheers

Sam

re3dyb0y
03-21-2006, 05:19 PM
Thats another 5 hours problem free

Seems like that has sorted it

Wonder what it was??


Sam

blue68f100
03-21-2006, 06:20 PM
Don't think its the ram, would have showed up with a single drive. If you have access to a Signature analysis maching, you could compare signatures to your good one. This is one tool that doesn't need ee to operate. It a simple comparison, starting with any 2 points and progressing through the pcb, till you find the problem area. Wish I had one.

re3dyb0y
03-22-2006, 04:37 AM
Sounds like a fancy peice of kit!!

Ah well, its not major


Good to have it working again

Just need to think about getting a 2nd WD2500JB for Raid 1 i think


Sam

dcmcdowell
03-22-2006, 12:10 PM
I need to get the image for the 1100 as well if anyone is willing. I have a dead drive.
Thanks in advance.

blue68f100
03-22-2006, 10:13 PM
If you have a 2200 around use dd to copy the first 25 meg of it.

nettech
03-23-2006, 02:55 AM
HELP!!!! I need a copy of SnapOS v4.0.830 for a 1000. I can't upgrade to 4.0.860 until I have a newer version of the OS than what I have.

Thanks for the help in advance.

re3dyb0y
03-23-2006, 10:23 AM
HELP!!!! I need a copy of SnapOS v4.0.830 for a 1000. I can't upgrade to 4.0.860 until I have a newer version of the OS than what I have.

Thanks for the help in advance.

What version are you currently on?

dcmcdowell
03-23-2006, 11:37 AM
If you have a 2200 around use dd to copy the first 25 meg of it.


I only have the 1100. As stupid as this sounds, I was trying to upgrade the drive and my process was to image the original drive with acronis, (I knew it prob wouldnt work, but I had to try.), and restore onto the larger 200gb drive. I 'imported' the disk into xp and that was that! It wouldnt boot again. If there is another way to fix this problem....Any help would be appreciated.

dcmcdowell
03-23-2006, 11:39 AM
I only have the 1100. As stupid as this sounds, I was trying to upgrade the drive and my process was to image the original drive with acronis, (I knew it prob wouldnt work, but I had to try.), and restore onto the larger 200gb drive. I 'imported' the disk into xp and that was that! It wouldnt boot again. If there is another way to fix this problem....Any help would be appreciated.


Please ignore. Thanks blu68 for the help;)

blue68f100
03-23-2006, 01:29 PM
HELP!!!! I need a copy of SnapOS v4.0.830 for a 1000. I can't upgrade to 4.0.860 until I have a newer version of the OS than what I have.

Thanks for the help in advance.

If you only need large disk support, 3.4.805 is better on these older units. V4 requires more ram, and runs slower.

dcmcdowell
03-24-2006, 11:56 AM
Just curious....has anyone been successfull in installing anything other than Snap OS on one? (1100). netBSD perhaps?

re3dyb0y
03-24-2006, 12:16 PM
Not that we know of

Cause there isn't any easy way to install it

The sup files are difficult to extract, but would have similar boot tracks and such


And with someones 4*** experience of seeing one post using a low profile PCI card, that could be possible

dcmcdowell
03-24-2006, 02:48 PM
Thanks again for all the help and images needed to fix my problems. The 1100 booted (thank goodness) after I restored the image. I have another question though...The image I used was 'boot tracks' from v3.4.805, yet Assist tells me that I am running v3.4.790. When I formatted my 200gb disk, it says I have approx. 1gb of disk space. Assuming that I need the upgraded version to recognize this large disk, how can I get it?

blue68f100
03-24-2006, 02:53 PM
Read my file transfer test results on the FreeNAS vs Snap 2200.
FreeNAS is built with FreeBSD 6.1 kernel. Don't know if transfering a HD with it over to the Snap 1100 would work. The 1100 uses a std boot loader, so it may. I think it required 16 meg of disk space. Don't know how much ram. Will have to check.

nettech
03-30-2006, 05:02 PM
What version are you currently on?


3.4

blue68f100
03-30-2006, 05:21 PM
What version of 1000 do you have?
Can you connect to the server with no HD installed?

I like 3.4.805 on the older models for large disk support. Runs better, less overhead.

nettech
03-30-2006, 10:46 PM
If you only need large disk support, 3.4.805 is better on these older units. V4 requires more ram, and runs slower.


Can somebody email me a copy of 3.4.805?

Thanks

ibecdn
04-05-2006, 09:26 AM
Help! I have a SNAP 1000 V2 and the HDD died. I did not have an image backup. I have a SNAP 4000 also, Can you get the OS from that server? It is running 3.4.803. Thank you for any helpor if you have and image for 1000 could you email it to me. Thanks again I hope to get this up and running again.

re3dyb0y
04-05-2006, 10:52 AM
Mine seems to be playing up again.....

foglema
04-05-2006, 01:27 PM
I have a Snap 1100 with a 250 Gb disk that decided to die while I was out of the office. The drive is completely dead and I cannot recover the image so I can setup a new disk. Can someone point me in the direction of an 1100 image. It would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You in advance!

KWayne
04-05-2006, 04:03 PM
Greetings:

I have spent the last week reading the entire post on how to upgrade a Snap 1000; impressive at over 500 printed pages. I have the following:

SnapSever Model 2000 Series
S/W 4.0.854(US)
H/W 2.0.0
BIOS 2.0.252
S/N 42872

If I read the articles correctly, several people have been successful by putting the working Server into a Raid 1 mode then remove one drive at a time. It seems too simple, but do you think it would work with my configuration? Also, how do I change the current setup (two drives that look like a single drive) to a Raid 1 configuration?

Thanks in advance for any assistance you may be able to provide.

Wayne

blue68f100
04-05-2006, 05:18 PM
2000 Support RAID 0 & 1. Both indicate a single drive to the user. You will need to look at the disk configuration page to see what you currently have. If a raid 0 all data will be lost on the change to raid 1. So backup up all data if you need it.

nmb
04-07-2006, 05:51 AM
hi all again,

thx for all the help. 2200 runningo on two new disks.

but I'm having another problem on another 2200.

already tried "config devices fsck 50000 /fix /fixfatal /altsb" and restarted the server.

tests went ok and after that the raid in mirror mode starts resyncing.

after a couple hours the resync fails with error "E File System : Failed to resynchronize logical set 50000, error -1"

I'm trying "config devices resync 50000". let's see how it goes... :(

re3dyb0y
04-07-2006, 07:35 AM
If I read the articles correctly, several people have been successful by putting the working Server into a Raid 1 mode then remove one drive at a time. It seems too simple, but do you think it would work with my configuration? Also, how do I change the current setup (two drives that look like a single drive) to a Raid 1 configuration?


Breaking a RAID config isn't the best idea. Generally most people haven't done this, it does get confusing with all the methods!

I did mine by removing the 2nd drive, and then jacking in a new drive and letting it reformat it and such

Then moving this to primary, and use the 2nd drive and do it again

Or use the drive to do the 2nd drive also, and then just stick them both in after

re3dyb0y
04-07-2006, 07:36 AM
hi all again,

thx for all the help. 2200 runningo on two new disks.

but I'm having another problem on another 2200.

already tried "config devices fsck 50000 /fix /fixfatal /altsb" and restarted the server.

tests went ok and after that the raid in mirror mode starts resyncing.

after a couple hours the resync fails with error "E File System : Failed to resynchronize logical set 50000, error -1"

I'm trying "config devices resync 50000". let's see how it goes... :(

It may be easier to break the raid set, and remove it, then rebuild it

nmb
04-07-2006, 07:50 AM
It may be easier to break the raid set, and remove it, then rebuild it


but that means backing up all the data right? breaking the raid set erases all data on the drives?

KWayne
04-07-2006, 08:54 AM
Breaking a RAID config isn't the best idea. Generally most people haven't done this, it does get confusing with all the methods!

I did mine by removing the 2nd drive, and then jacking in a new drive and letting it reformat it and such

Then moving this to primary, and use the 2nd drive and do it again

Or use the drive to do the 2nd drive also, and then just stick them both in after

So if I understand what you are saying, you simply remove the second drive, insert the new larger drive configures either as Slave or CS depending on what the current second drive is, then power it up. I believe you are saying it will automatically recognize the new second drive, then format it and make it ready for use including putting the OS on it. Then again change out the primary drive, change the Slave to Primary (or CS) and insert the second new drive in and let it again format and copy the OS to it. Do I understand you correctly?

Thanks, Wayne

blue68f100
04-07-2006, 08:59 AM
Breaking a raid 1 to JBOD will put all the data on the 10000 drive. If this is the good drive no data will be lost.

If you are dealing with a broken mirror and have installed a new drive, instructions for repairing is in the wiki section.

Other have reported using "co de" instead of config devices works.

Other wise we will need more info on what you are trying to do.

KWayne
04-07-2006, 01:03 PM
Breaking a raid 1 to JBOD will put all the data on the 10000 drive. If this is the good drive no data will be lost.

If you are dealing with a broken mirror and have installed a new drive, instructions for repairing is in the wiki section.

Other have reported using "co de" instead of config devices works.

Other wise we will need more info on what you are trying to do.

Thanks for sticking with me on this. I currently have a:

SnapSever Model 2000 Series
S/W 4.0.854(US)
H/W 2.0.0
BIOS 2.0.252
S/N 42872

that is working quite well with two drives that are combined to look like a single drive, not a Raid 1 environment. I want to replace the existing 2 - 20 Gb drives that work just fine, with 2 - 160 Gb (ATA-100) drives so that I can have more space. Ultimately, I want to configure them as Raid 1 but that can come after the changing of the drives. So I have heard two possible methods, (1), backup any existing data I have, change the existing environment to a Raid 1, then take out one of the drives and replace it with one of the new 160 Gb's. The unit would then copy the OS to the new 160 Gb drive, and when finished, move it to primary, and fail the second one again replacing it with a 160 Gb drive. The (2) method appears to remove the second drive without changing to Raid 1 first, replace it with a new 160 Gb drive, then have it come up after the OS is copied, move this new drive to primary (either Primary or CS) and then remove the second drive which was a 20 GB drive. I am also not clear on what wiki is (I HAVE read all 500 plus pages, but dont remember that term) and would appreciate any help.

Wayne

nmb
04-07-2006, 02:02 PM
with this info, is there anyway to know the drive failing to sync?

Logical Device: 10006 Position: 0 JBOD Size (KB): 32296 Free (KB): 22368 Private Mounted
Label:Private Contains system files only
Unique Id: 0x182E5A551A568FF1 Mount: /priv Index: 12 Order: 0
Partition: 10006 Physical: 10007 FS Size (KB): 32768 Starting Blk: 515 Private
Physical: 10007 Drive Slot: 0 IDE Size (KB): 120627200 Fixed

Logical Device: 10016 Position: 0 JBOD Size (KB): 32296 Free (KB): 21528 Private Mounted
Label:Private Contains system files only
Unique Id: 0x4C6C63AB0B9E06D8 Mount: /pri2 Index: 13 Order: 1
Partition: 10016 Physical: 10017 FS Size (KB): 32768 Starting Blk: 515 Private
Physical: 10017 Drive Slot: 2 IDE Size (KB): 120627200 Fixed

Logical Device: 50000 Position: 1 MIRROR_RESYNC Size (KB): 118281312 Free (KB): 23916984 Public Mounted
Label:Mirror Data protection disk
Unique Id: 0x674BB7006D53A006 Mount: /0 Index: 0 Order: 2
Partition: 10000 Physical: 10007 M 50000 Size (KB): 119921128 Starting Blk: 88131 Public
Physical: 10007 Drive Slot: 0 IDE Size (KB): 120627200 Fixed
Partition: 10010 Physical: 10017 M 50000 Size (KB): 119921128 Starting Blk: 88131 Public
Physical: 10017 Drive Slot: 2 IDE Size (KB): 120627200 Fixed

blue68f100
04-07-2006, 03:11 PM
Thanks for sticking with me on this. I currently have a:

SnapSever Model 2000 Series
S/W 4.0.854(US)
H/W 2.0.0
BIOS 2.0.252
S/N 42872

that is working quite well with two drives that are combined to look like a single drive, not a Raid 1 environment. I want to replace the existing 2 - 20 Gb drives that work just fine, with 2 - 160 Gb (ATA-100) drives so that I can have more space. Ultimately, I want to configure them as Raid 1 but that can come after the changing of the drives. So I have heard two possible methods, (1), backup any existing data I have, change the existing environment to a Raid 1, then take out one of the drives and replace it with one of the new 160 Gb's. The unit would then copy the OS to the new 160 Gb drive, and when finished, move it to primary, and fail the second one again replacing it with a 160 Gb drive. The (2) method appears to remove the second drive without changing to Raid 1 first, replace it with a new 160 Gb drive, then have it come up after the OS is copied, move this new drive to primary (either Primary or CS) and then remove the second drive which was a 20 GB drive. I am also not clear on what wiki is (I HAVE read all 500 plus pages, but dont remember that term) and would appreciate any help.

Wayne

It is always better to do a backup, whe you start playing with disks. After you have backed everything up: MARK YOU ORIGINAL HD's AS M/S OR FT/BK. Keep the master as a OS keeper if you like.

Check you drive configuration. Singe disk can be Any raid set, the only indication would be usable space. If you are showing over 20 gig usable you are proably raid 0, Which means there is nothing you can do but to backit up before upgrading. The process I would use would be to break the set to JBOD. reboot the server. Then change the drives to raid 1, reboot and let it build the set. approx 2 hrs.

On a 2000 the drives should be in a master/slave config. By looking at the HW & BIOS you have a version 2. The master is the FT disk, end of cable. So fail the slave, Back drive. Install your new disk and reboot. The snap should format and install the OS on it. Check you drives status from the disk secton. Once the Disk ligh has gone out. You will be ready to fail the master. and do the same process again. Your OS will support hd >137gig. If you end up with a broken mirror, simply change back to JBOD, then back to RAID1.

blue68f100
04-07-2006, 03:24 PM
with this info, is there anyway to know the drive failing to sync?

Logical Device: 10006 Position: 0 JBOD Size (KB): 32296 Free (KB): 22368 Private Mounted
Label:Private Contains system files only
Unique Id: 0x182E5A551A568FF1 Mount: /priv Index: 12 Order: 0
Partition: 10006 Physical: 10007 FS Size (KB): 32768 Starting Blk: 515 Private
Physical: 10007 Drive Slot: 0 IDE Size (KB): 120627200 Fixed

Logical Device: 10016 Position: 0 JBOD Size (KB): 32296 Free (KB): 21528 Private Mounted
Label:Private Contains system files only
Unique Id: 0x4C6C63AB0B9E06D8 Mount: /pri2 Index: 13 Order: 1
Partition: 10016 Physical: 10017 FS Size (KB): 32768 Starting Blk: 515 Private
Physical: 10017 Drive Slot: 2 IDE Size (KB): 120627200 Fixed

Logical Device: 50000 Position: 1 MIRROR_RESYNC Size (KB): 118281312 Free (KB): 23916984 Public Mounted
Label:Mirror Data protection disk
Unique Id: 0x674BB7006D53A006 Mount: /0 Index: 0 Order: 2
Partition: 10000 Physical: 10007 M 50000 Size (KB): 119921128 Starting Blk: 88131 Public
Physical: 10007 Drive Slot: 0 IDE Size (KB): 120627200 Fixed
Partition: 10010 Physical: 10017 M 50000 Size (KB): 119921128 Starting Blk: 88131 Public
Physical: 10017 Drive Slot: 2 IDE Size (KB): 120627200 Fixed

It's not telling me which drive is have the problem. Look in the error log and enter "in lo p -1" from the debug screen. You will be looking for errors on 100x0, 100x7 drive/slice markers.

Did you install new drives in this one too?

KWayne
04-07-2006, 04:16 PM
It is always better to do a backup, whe you start playing with disks. After you have backed everything up: MARK YOU ORIGINAL HD's AS M/S OR FT/BK. Keep the master as a OS keeper if you like.

Check you drive configuration. Singe disk can be Any raid set, the only indication would be usable space. If you are showing over 20 gig usable you are proably raid 0, Which means there is nothing you can do but to backit up before upgrading. The process I would use would be to break the set to JBOD. reboot the server. Then change the drives to raid 1, reboot and let it build the set. approx 2 hrs.

On a 2000 the drives should be in a master/slave config. By looking at the HW & BIOS you have a version 2. The master is the FT disk, end of cable. So fail the slave, Back drive. Install your new disk and reboot. The snap should format and install the OS on it. Check you drives status from the disk secton. Once the Disk ligh has gone out. You will be ready to fail the master. and do the same process again. Your OS will support hd >137gig. If you end up with a broken mirror, simply change back to JBOD, then back to RAID1.

OK; here's yet another stupid question.. Whats JBOD? I have found it in many posts dealing with drive statistics, but dont know what it means or how I would change back to it if things get dicey?

Thanks, again, Wayne

Wayne

re3dyb0y
04-07-2006, 04:19 PM
JBOD = Just a Bunch Of Disks

Basically, like you would normally use hard drives in a pc

einsteinagogo
04-18-2006, 04:50 PM
Can anyone send me a url as to where I can find the SnapOS 4.0 Upgrade. I purchase my Snap 2200 160gb unit, when it was a Quantum 2200, and then it changed hands to Snap, that wanted to charge me for the 4.0 upgrade, and now I see it's been gobbled up by Adaptec, where I cannot even register the device using the serial number and I cannot find 4.0 to download, just the patch!

interested, if I can remove the two 80GB ide drives and replace with larger.

regards

einsteinagogo

re3dyb0y
04-20-2006, 12:38 PM
Depending on what OS you are on currently, you may be fine with your current OS

For what reasons do you want/need OS V4?

Do you need 2k3 AD support?

einsteinagogo
04-23-2006, 05:40 AM
I've just completed an NT 4.0 to Win2k3 Active Directory upgrade, and I was having problems with my Snap server and authentication. I thought this was an SnapOS issue, but then I found it was SMB signing, and I cannot understand, now I've fixed the registry on the domain controllers, why the DC keep tuirning it back on when I disable it!

From these forums I've also read that the current SnapOS may be better, less overhead etc

What Active Directory features are missing from SnapOS 3.0

re3dyb0y
04-23-2006, 08:16 AM
If you are going to 2k3 AD, you will need OS V4 up to date and patched to 4.0.860

This is due to MS security Fixes, and that 2003 Active Directory supposrt is added in V4 of the OS

God knows if you did get it on the AD how you did so without os v4!

re3dyb0y
04-23-2006, 08:23 AM
Hmm

While mine was formatting the new 250GB Seagate, it was in 'failure mode' according to the LED patterns.

But then it went back to 'System is running a performing a check operation'

einsteinagogo
04-23-2006, 01:08 PM
ah, I've just been prompted by your posting, we've just started migrating to Win2k3 AD from NT 4.0, so were are still running in Mixed-Mode.

So, I'll be needing to upgrade to SnapOS 4.0, where's the download, as I cannot seem to find it on Adaptec site, or find an email to register my Snap Server!

re3dyb0y
04-23-2006, 02:49 PM
Like v4.0.860 can be downloaded from Adaptec. But requires a full version to be installed prior to patch.

diskotech
05-08-2006, 11:34 AM
Hi all,

I've had a good read through this and the other threads and there's some great info and work been done here.

I've got hold of a Snap Server 1000, it's the later model without the OS on flash. It comes up with the System light flashing and the disk light flashing twice - waiting for software download in broadcast mode I believe. I cannot connect to the device at all, with or without the HD attached. I've gone through the various factory reset options.

I understand the PSU failed (I've obtained a replacement) so the previous owner tried to slave the HD to an XP PC to retrieve the data. I think that in doing so, XP has written something to the drive which has overwritten the SnapOS so the device no longer boots up.

I'm comfortable with using Linux and DD, the missing part of the puzzle is a link to the snap2200.bin file which is what I think I need to resurrect the device. Can anyone on here help? All the FTP sites mentioned here seem to be long dead.

Many thanks!

blue68f100
05-08-2006, 01:37 PM
There are a few programs that can read the XFS files system. But the Snaps used a modified XFS, so I'm not surprised he wiped the disk.

The 1000 have been strange with the image files. Some like the 1000v1 and other like the 2200 or 4x00 boot tracks. So just grab any snap drive and copy the 1st 25 megs of the drive. You should be good to go.

diskotech
05-08-2006, 01:50 PM
Hi there,

There are a few programs that can read the XFS files system. But the Snaps used a modified XFS, so I'm not surprised he wiped the disk.


I think I read somewhere that Mandrake can read XFS. If I get a chance I'll slave it to a Mandrake box and see if I can see any data. I don't hold out much hope though if they use a modified file system, and who knows what's been trashed with XP writing signatures on it.

The 1000 have been strange with the image files. Some like the 1000v1 and other like the 2200 or 4x00 boot tracks. So just grab any snap drive and copy the 1st 25 megs of the drive. You should be good to go.

Cheers, I'll give that a go and let you know how I get on. You're right that there does seem to be conflicting info on which image works best for the 1000. Perhaps I can post some pics of the internals for the wiki for reference to help people identify which model they have.

Thank for the reply.

bitor
05-09-2006, 12:42 AM
Hello:
I'm new to this. I just got an old Snap Appliance Server 1000. My question is every time I click on the Administrator link via the web browser it prompts me for a user name and password. I don't know what it is. Is there a default? I've tried to enter nothing and got nowhere. I've entered just any username without password and got nothing either. How can I get around this? Or am I doing something wrong.
Thanks,
bitor

diskotech
05-09-2006, 01:46 AM
Hi,

The procedure to reset the Admin password is detailed on the Wiki (http://wiki.procooling.com/index.php/Snap_Server_Resets)

bitor
05-15-2006, 10:53 PM
Hello:

Thanks for your help before about the password reset. It worked great!
I would like to ask you your advice on my..
Specs:
Snap Server 1000
OS: v3.1.618
Model: 1000 series
Hardware: 3.1.2
Bios: 2.1.366
HardDrive: OEM 40 GB

- Ok, what is the maxium I can go with this model ? i.e. hard drive,Bios,OS,etc.. without greatly degrading it's performance?
- What are the upgrades I can make to this model ?
- Where can I download the OS 3.4.805 ? I've seen via the form that I will need this. i.e. link to download, or send me the file,etc..
-It's not at the mfg site, so that's out of the question. And any other information you would be able to give me about my model will help too. i.e. ram installed, cpu, etc..
- Can you tell me what OS this has. i.e. Linux,FreeBSD,etc..
- What are the "pros" and "cons" with this model?

Thanks again in advance for you help. This is the best site out in web land for this type of information. GREAT JOB on your research people.

Thanks,
bitor

blue68f100
05-16-2006, 08:51 AM
I think the largest tested is 250-300 gig. Nobody wants to be the first with 400-500 and 750 gig drives. While you are doing the upgrade, replace the fan, it's due.

The OS is based on FreeBSD. The file system is suppose to be a Modified XFS with v2 and up. It is such most system can not read it. Generally only another snap.

A user last week said he had talked Adaptec into posting 3.4.805, But that will have to be seen. Check software for the 2X00, 4X00 models. I thought he was working on a 2X00 model.

Pros & cons.......
These are small compact single drive units, no raid. Are not very fast. But in the most part are very reliable.

Depending on which version of the 1000 you have you may need to copy the boot tracks from your working drive in order to do the upgrade. Or the whole drive if you want the data. The early version stores the OS in flashram. For it just install the new drive and setback, it will its thing. The instructions are in the wiki section, which should be up now.

bitor
05-16-2006, 12:21 PM
Thank you for your information concerning my server! I looked on the adaptec web site(ftp) and could not find the OS 3.4.805 . However, I do have the OS 4.0.860 downloaded. Will this OS work on my Snap Server 1000(see specs below)? And if so, will this OS be too taxing on my hardware? (Give me your two cents please) Or should I try and find/beg for the OS 3.4.805 version that somebody might have or wait until adaptec releases it via the ftp site.(which I don't know if they will do this or not)
What are the pros and cons(if I'm able to install either or OSes) to OS 3.4.805 and OS 4.0.860?

Thanks in advice again,
Sincerely,
bitor

blue68f100
05-16-2006, 01:02 PM
What you got is the v4.0.860 patch. It will not install without a previous version of 4 already installed. I do not recomend v4 on the older units. It does require more resources. V3.4.805 supports large disk, but not MS AD support.

Do you know if you have a v1 or v2 1000. A easy check is to see if you can access the unit without a HD installed. I think your hardware is new enough to be a v2.

blue68f100
06-11-2006, 07:23 PM
I hope some one uses this thread soon, it's loosing ground to others.:drool:

bitor
06-11-2006, 09:51 PM
With the Snap Server 1000 v2 , what viruses do I have to be concerned with if any? Also, I have read that if the power goes out on a snap server 1000, and maybe others, you could lose all your data. Is this due to a swap file being used and since it is not properly shut down. If this is the case , then I would like to know if I could turn OFF the swap file and make it always write to the disk. I know it would be slower , but I would rather be safe about the data.

Thanks for your time,
bitor

blue68f100
06-11-2006, 11:00 PM
The OS is realy locked up, the reason it's so hard to impossiable to change. I know of NO virus for the Snap OS. It's not something virus writer go after. They want a High Target Zone.

Improper shut down is the reason for if any file corruption. With limited ram it is minimal. Yet the extra cache (8meg) now in harddrives increases the risk.
Any way that's what UPS units are for.:)

Snaps will always run a chk disk on restart on any improper shutdown.

bitor
06-11-2006, 11:26 PM
Yeah, I know that is what UPS units do. I have one. I just wanted to take an extra step if possible. That is great news for the "NO virus" information. And the minimal data loss due to the limited ram is good also to a certain degree. I have approx. 32MB on my snap server 1000 v2 pluse the 8MB in the HD cache. So , how long does it hold info in the ram before it dumps it to the hard drive?
As a side note. I just cannot stand leaving my hd spin 24/7. I shut it down if I'm not using it. It's a little more trouble , but the hard drive will last a lot longer I hope.

Thanks again for all your help now and before :0)

Sincerely,
bitor

re3dyb0y
06-12-2006, 05:33 AM
Yeah, I know that is what UPS units do. I have one. I just wanted to take an extra step if possible. That is great news for the "NO virus" information. And the minimal data loss due to the limited ram is good also to a certain degree. I have approx. 32MB on my snap server 1000 v2 pluse the 8MB in the HD cache. So , how long does it hold info in the ram before it dumps it to the hard drive?
As a side note. I just cannot stand leaving my hd spin 24/7. I shut it down if I'm not using it. It's a little more trouble , but the hard drive will last a lot longer I hope.

Thanks again for all your help now and before :0)

Sincerely,
bitor

There may be no virus that will infect the actual device, it doesn't mean it would not store and transmit virus's.

A network virus scanner would keep an eye on this. Or an on demand one.


The hard drives do not spin at full speed all the time.

They go down into a lower usage mode, keeping spinning at a low rate so increasing the life. Also, reduces the time if you want to access it.

You can use QDL (Quick Directory Lookup), to increase the speed that you can browse and such!

bitor
06-12-2006, 04:34 PM
Hey thanks for your advice. I have enabled the QDL(Quick Dir Lookup) Seems to speed things up which is good. I have an NT4.0 server I will use to scan for virus on the snap server 1000 v2 I have. Any other tweaks you know that you could pass along to me? What about telnet? Can I enable this? Also, I'm not quite sure on the setup of the UPS via the snap webbrowser on shutdown if power fails. How does that work? Does it send a signal via the network?

Thanks again for your help now and before,
Sincerely,
bitor

re3dyb0y
06-12-2006, 05:00 PM
Cool

Telnet i have no idea about - not done t my knowledge

Not having a UPS myself, ive never configured one.

Im presuming its like a pc, it will send the signals and shut it down...

I think


Best way - Configure it, and test it...

blue68f100
06-12-2006, 05:49 PM
NO Telenet on snap, I believe it's been locked out.

Auto Shutdown on power failure works only on supported models.

bitor
06-13-2006, 03:08 PM
Hey David:

Thanks for your reply. I have a Snap Server 1000 v2. Would this work with the auto shutdown on failure for the UPS ? Oh, also with the QDL do I have to rebuild everytime I add new/more files to the snap or is it automatic?

Thanks again for your help before and now,

Sincerely,
bitor

blue68f100
06-13-2006, 04:09 PM
QDL should be auto.

As for UPS auto shutdown. If your UPS (APC) connects to the network it will work. All of the ones I have are USB or serial on the older ones.

Looking at the documentation you must have a network UPS. It has to have an IP address to talk to the snap. Unless you can write a script that execute a shutdown from a pc.

whanchett
06-14-2006, 02:43 PM
Hello after reading thru about 20 pages of messages i finally got to the end. I aquired a snap 4100 at a new job of mine. Everything works ok (hardware wise) also originally 480 gig unit. only problem i have is trying to get os 4.0 again im not paying 200 $ for it and also trying to use the domain security on this device. i cant browse to the snap server unless i set up local user name password identical to the domain username and password. also doesnt appear to have joined the domain. everything inputed to the snap is correct. any ideas. Also is 4.0 available anywhere still?

mroger
06-14-2006, 03:25 PM
Hello, I just got an old snap 1000 with a dead harddrive and I wonder if it's still possible to catch a IMG of the boot partition to dd on a new HD to get the thing up as explained on the wiki ?

I apologize if my request is not allowed here and for my approximative english writing !

Thanks a lot if someone can help.

blue68f100
06-14-2006, 05:03 PM
Hello after reading thru about 20 pages of messages i finally got to the end. I aquired a snap 4100 at a new job of mine. Everything works ok (hardware wise) also originally 480 gig unit. only problem i have is trying to get os 4.0 again im not paying 200 $ for it and also trying to use the domain security on this device. i cant browse to the snap server unless i set up local user name password identical to the domain username and password. also doesnt appear to have joined the domain. everything inputed to the snap is correct. any ideas. Also is 4.0 available anywhere still?

You missed some for the 4X00's seperate threads.

There is a work around on the wiki section.

whanchett
06-14-2006, 10:02 PM
Do you have to use a unix box to get it to work? i dont currently have one at work . i can use knoppix temp but looks like you have to maintain the share from a unix box

thanks for the help

bitor
06-26-2006, 04:43 PM
Hi, I have a snap server 1000 v2 with 3.4.805 software. In the snap via the webbrowser in the Admin>View Network Settings section under Ethernet I have the settings Link Speed= 10 Megabits/sec,Link Mode= Half Duplex.
My hub is a 10/100. Lan card in my pc is 10/100. Problem is how do I set the snap 1000 to be Full Duplex and run at 100 Meg/sec?
Second question.. How do I dump the logs(erase)? Also, how do I fine tune it to run faster?( If you can)

Thanks again for all your help before and now.
Sincerely,
bitor

blue68f100
06-26-2006, 05:09 PM
from debug here is the cmd's for the ethernet port

ethernet Fullduplex enable/disable
speed [0=auto/10/100/1000] (get/set ethernet speed)
TBI enable/disable
MTU


As for speed these weren't design to burn the net up. Only execpt around 2-4M/sec speeds.

bitor
06-26-2006, 08:42 PM
Hey David:

Thanks that's(info) going to help me out a lot. I'm getting about 1 to 1.2 MB/sec. speed. I can always count on you for great information. Once again, thanks for all your help. Don't worry you know I always have a question for you to answer.

Sincerely,
bitor

P.S. Happy 4th of July to you if I don't chat with u before.

nickirwin
07-06-2006, 10:11 AM
Can someone supply a link to the Full SnapOS v4.0.xxx?

I've been searching the web for weeks now, and cant find it.
Currently on v3.4.790 and all i want is Win2003 AD support.

Even adaptec dont reply or even care.

Any help would be appreciated.

jon_harley101@hotmail.com

Thanks.

re3dyb0y
07-07-2006, 09:01 AM
Can someone supply a link to the Full SnapOS v4.0.xxx?

I've been searching the web for weeks now, and cant find it.
Currently on v3.4.790 and all i want is Win2003 AD support.

Even adaptec dont reply or even care.

Any help would be appreciated.

jon_harley101@hotmail.com

Thanks.

Give em money and they will care

dex1304
07-14-2006, 06:09 PM
Ok So I am trying to increase the harddrive space of my Snap 1000 (not the 1100). I used a program called winhex, because i had it already and I knew it did direct copying, and now even my original hd seems messed up. When I put it back into the snap server it seems to boot, but the System and Disk leds blink togther. I've copyed the first 50000 sectors to many different hds i had laying around and all the same result. Am I screwed?

Cory

blue68f100
07-14-2006, 10:05 PM
Not all programs do a RAW COPY correctly. Winkex work if you have the frensic tools. It sounds like you are screwed.

Blink blink =

Slow Flashing Disk Flashing concurrently with the system light = System in Diagnostic mode


I hope nothing was important on it. Winhex add and/or modified the mbr. These modified XFS are very picky.

If you have another snap, you can copy the OS/Boot tracks to the ones you just messed up. But I wouldn't use winhex.

Prodiem
07-20-2006, 10:58 PM
Ok So I am trying to increase the harddrive space of my Snap 1000 (not the 1100). I used a program called winhex, because i had it already and I knew it did direct copying, and now even my original hd seems messed up. When I put it back into the snap server it seems to boot, but the System and Disk leds blink togther. I've copyed the first 50000 sectors to many different hds i had laying around and all the same result. Am I screwed?

Cory

I have just successfully debricked my 1100 250GB (Bad Sectors) with a 40GB using winhex... I had to copy the first 100,000(Dec) sectors before it would work.

Examinining the file system I see that the FAT of the file partition seems to be needed before it will boot properly. Also there is some files stored in that area that are nessisary. If at all possible I would copy the entire drive (winhex has the ability to write what it can from the bad sectors) and reinit the new drive when installed.

blue68f100
07-21-2006, 09:16 AM
If you are trying to recover the data, you do not want to reinit the drive, It's part of a formating cmd.

It looks like the original drive had a problem. The OS is stored in flashram on SOME 1000, not all. If you have a version 1, the os in fashram. Otherwise stored on the drive.

There was a formatting change to the drives with v2 OS. It's nice to know smething else is capable of working besides dd.

KWayne
08-15-2006, 02:26 PM
Thanks for sticking with me on this. I currently have a:

SnapSever Model 2000 Series
S/W 4.0.854(US)
H/W 2.0.0
BIOS 2.0.252
S/N 42872

that is working quite well with two drives that are combined to look like a single drive, not a Raid 1 environment. I want to replace the existing 2 - 20 Gb drives that work just fine, with 2 - 160 Gb (ATA-100) drives so that I can have more space. Ultimately, I want to configure them as Raid 1 but that can come after the changing of the drives. So I have heard two possible methods, (1), backup any existing data I have, change the existing environment to a Raid 1, then take out one of the drives and replace it with one of the new 160 Gb's. The unit would then copy the OS to the new 160 Gb drive, and when finished, move it to primary, and fail the second one again replacing it with a 160 Gb drive. The (2) method appears to remove the second drive without changing to Raid 1 first, replace it with a new 160 Gb drive, then have it come up after the OS is copied, move this new drive to primary (either Primary or CS) and then remove the second drive which was a 20 GB drive. I am also not clear on what wiki is (I HAVE read all 500 plus pages, but dont remember that term) and would appreciate any help.

Wayne


I just wanted to provide an update to the forum as far as my upgrade went. I opened the box (on the 2000, there is a single screw at the back then the two halves slide, one forward the other one backward. I then took the drive plate out with the dries to determine which drive was master and which was slave as both had been C/S (cable selected). The drive closest to the rear (power supply) was IDE-1 so I assumed it was the master and I was correct. I replaced the front drive (assumed to be the slave) with a 160 GB drive, with C/S and started it up. About 1 minute later, it was formatting the new drive. I then swapped the front drive (slave) with the rear one (master) and again started it up. After about two minutes, I had two separate drives, each with about 150 GB's. I am now setting them us as mirrored drives. Thanks to all those who helped here in this forum as it would have been very difficult. The only hard part was reading the 500 plus pages.

Thanks, Wayne

harddisque
08-15-2006, 05:23 PM
I have a snap server 1100, the hard disk has crashed and does not turn anymore, so i got myself a new seagate exact harddisk and installed it, the system and disk lights are flashing together and this thing will not come up. I have tried the dhcp and assist tool but no luck. I have been reading on this forum and understand that I need some boot files first on the new hard disk. Does anyone have these files? Please help


I'm in the same boat, except I have a Maxtor disk i'd like to use. Any info on installing a replacement disk in the 1100 when you have a failed hard drive and no possibility of recovering files.

Is the OS on the 1100 on the NVRAM?

blue68f100
08-15-2006, 07:38 PM
Do you have web interface access? if so (v1) yes

If not you guessed it ON the DRIVE.

If the Maxtor is one of the ATA133 EIDE, you may have problems getting the drive to work with the snap.

harddisque
08-16-2006, 11:13 AM
Looks like the maxtor drive is an ATA-100 (???).

So as I understand it, if the OS is on the NVRAM, I should be able to access this device with the web interface? Even with NO drive installed?

This is my first experience with a Snap server from a repair standpoint, so excuse my ignorance.

blue68f100
08-16-2006, 02:39 PM
Yes on Flashram, If you can access the snap with no drives.

Up grading is easier too, just install the drive, it will see it and set it up.

harddisque
08-16-2006, 03:46 PM
Yes on Flashram, If you can access the snap with no drives.

Up grading is easier too, just install the drive, it will see it and set it up.

Is there a way of identifying on the motherboard whether it has NVRAM or not?

There is one chip tagged similar to the NVRAM in one in the pictures in the "hacking a snap server" although they are different models.

blue68f100
08-16-2006, 07:15 PM
If you are wanting to upgrade the drive, you have 2 choices with the 1100.

1. Install the new drive and see it the snap will prepare and use the drive.

2. Copy the boot tracks from your working drive to the new one using the instruction in the wiki section of the forum.

harddisque
08-16-2006, 07:47 PM
If you are wanting to upgrade the drive, you have 2 choices with the 1100.

1. Install the new drive and see it the snap will prepare and use the drive.

2. Copy the boot tracks from your working drive to the new one using the instruction in the wiki section of the forum.


Looks like I'm stuck with option 1.....original hard drive was toast. How long do you thing it will take to prepare a 40 GB drive?

blue68f100
08-16-2006, 09:44 PM
If option 1 works you should be able to connect to the drive in 10 min.

If the sys an disk leds are sending mores code (repeat 1 +2), you will need to load a image file.

harddisque
08-17-2006, 09:46 AM
If option 1 works you should be able to connect to the drive in 10 min.

If the sys an disk leds are sending mores code (repeat 1 +2), you will need to load a image file.

looks like I'll need an image file. Any suggestions?

evoaz1
08-17-2006, 03:18 PM
Hello everyone. Been following this thread for over a year. Thanks for all the help already - this thread has been a great resource for Snap owners!

Have a Snap 2000 with the following:

OS: 3.4.803 (US)
Hardware: 2.0.0
BIOS: 2.0.282
SN: 55556
128MB Upgraded memory, 2x80GB WD, stock fan (will replace)

I upgraded my Snap very early on with 2x80GB WD drives and the additional memory. It has been working for almost 3 years flawlessly! Well one of the drives just died yesterday, and I want to upgrade both drives above the 137GB limit, so I am assuming from what I have learned here that I need OS v4.0.830. I have OS v4.0.860 available, but I think the consensus is NOT to use this version. Can anyone point me in the right direction to find OS version 4.0.830? or send it to me? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks so much!

blue68f100
08-17-2006, 05:27 PM
You have a v2 2000, with extra ram. It will run 4.0.860. v4.0.860 is a patch for the 4.0.830 version, that added MS2003 AD support. Or you could just move up to 3.4.805.

evoaz1
08-17-2006, 06:28 PM
You have a v2 2000, with extra ram. It will run 4.0.860. v4.0.860 is a patch for the 4.0.830 version, that added MS2003 AD support. Or you could just move up to 3.4.805.

blue 68f100 - Make sure I have this right - OS v3.4.805 will support drives >137GB?

blue68f100
08-17-2006, 07:39 PM
Yes

evoaz1
08-18-2006, 01:35 PM
Thanks to blue68f100 and re3dyb0y for their help. It seems I had some misinformation about how to get above the 137GB limit on my 2000. I had assumed that I needed v4 of the Snap OS to get 48-bit lba enabled, but that isn't true. I did find something interesting thru the process that I wanted to share.

To recap, my Snap (after upgrades):
OS: 3.4.807 (US)
Hardware: 2.0.0
BIOS: 2.0.282
SN: 55556
128MB Upgraded memory, 2x300GB Seagate ATA/100 (woohoo!), 50x50x15 fan

OK, here is what I found. I registered my Snap 2000 very early when I got it a few years ago. I logged into Adaptec's site (http://profile.adaptec.com/licenseAgreement.aspx yesterday and found my information there. I noticed that there was a new OS listed for the 2000, version S2Sv2 (not actually sure it works with the 2000, but it was listed). I was curious so I tried to request an SLK (Software License Key) thru the Adaptec Site which apparently you need to actually upgrade to S2Sv2 (if even possible). At this point I thought I needed AT LEAST v4 of the OS to break the 137GB limit, so I thought I would explor the S2Sv2 options if possible. Well, the site had some kind of errors, and I was redirected to an FAQ page here: http://profile.adaptec.com/licenseAgreement.aspx

On that page is a link to a division of Adaptec's customer support. I emailed them requesting the "most recent version of the Snap OS for the 2000". Within an hour I had the following email from them:

Your case, 0000000000xxxxx, was updated. Please refer to the information below for our response. Please Click here if you need additional support on this issue.
Please do not reply to this email as it will not be seen by a live representative.

To download the latest version of SnapOS, please visit
http://xxxxxx

File Name:
SNAPOS_34807.EXE

Password:
xxxxxxxxx

Notes: The weblink above requires the Snap Server to be registered with Adaptec, Inc.


Sure enough, I was able to get the v3.4.807 OS version from Adaptec without paying anything. I upgraded the OS without a problem, and everything is working well. Just wanted to share this with anyone who is trying to upgrade a2000/2200 to the latest v3 OS. It looks like if you ask the right people, they will give you the free OS upgrade.

I know (now, thanks to those on this thread) that the 3.4.805 version gives 48-bit lba support, and of course so does this newer 3.4.807 version, but I don't know what else it upgraded/changed. If anyone has any idea on the other differences please post them.

Thanks again to all!

re3dyb0y
08-18-2006, 05:51 PM
It will just have some minor bug fixes and such

As ther eare quite a few versions with small changes in them

Phoenix32
08-18-2006, 06:59 PM
an 807 version? Interesting, since I have also chosen to stick with the v3 OS. I truly wonder what was "fixed" in this version over 805 and if it is worth while. And ideas Dave? Or sources to find out for sure?

blue68f100
08-18-2006, 09:05 PM
If you read the post, he was able to get the file from Adaptec. I told him 3.4.805 supported large disk. He requested the file and they gave him a link to the 807. Have NO IDEA what was changed or fixed in 807.

harddisque
08-19-2006, 10:00 AM
Well...was able to load an image file, and it appears to be doing something. The drive was installed with NTFS and loaded with an image with knoppix. The unit goes into the 1 + 2 light sequence and is working on the disk. My first attempt showed that the disk must have been reformatted in the process because the NTFS system was not present when testing the drive in another PC.

Does this process take a LONG time? I let the box run overnight and it was still in the same mode it was in. when I woke up the next morning..if so I'll just put in in a corner and let it run. Does it finally move out of this mode (sys light - one blink, drive -two blinks) and on to a point where I can get into it on the network?. It apparently hasn't reached to the stage where it goes out for an IP address yet.

Any info is appreciated! Thanks to all for the help...better than tech support!!!! and cheaper, too!!!

I feel like I'm almost there...just need to get over the hump (so to speak)

John

blue68f100
08-19-2006, 11:44 AM
The 1 2 blink means it is not finding the OS version that it's like. Need to load a different version of the OS. If every thing works correctly you want get the 1 - 2 leds. You will get a solid disk light for a while. And then the sys will have a heart beat. You should be able to login after 5-10 minutes.

There were 2 different version of the 1x00, one for some reason will use the OS from a 2200, and other need the older 1000. Don't know why, well yes I do. There was a period where snap was changing hardware configuration.

harddisque
08-19-2006, 03:14 PM
I've tried the snap1000.rar without success and this time tried snap2200.rar installed with Knoppix.

The drive is formatted NTFS before loading either one. Does it need to be FAT or FAT 32? Or HTFS formatted in Knoppix?

Thanks for the help!

John

blue68f100
08-19-2006, 07:49 PM
No, it doesn't need to be formated before writing the boot tracks with dd. Sometimes it helps to do a quick format of the MBR.

harddisque
08-19-2006, 09:00 PM
So following the procedure to put either one of the Snap1000 or Snap2200.rar files does not require the disk to be formatted?

Digital Dolly...will it create boot tracks? Do I use it first, create the boot track then format the MBR, then use knoppix to get the snap1000 or 2200.rar image on the disk? and the disk can be unformatted?

I feel like I'm missing a step somewhere....

Sorry to be a pain...

Regards,

John

blue68f100
08-19-2006, 09:50 PM
Follow the instruction in the wiki section of the forum. DD will write the mbr and os to the hd. If the hd had some flavor of unix/linux you should wipe the mbr table prior to writing the image.

Read the instruction posted in the wiki section. Trust me it works.

harddisque
08-19-2006, 10:22 PM
When you are refering to DD, would that be the line:

type "dd if=/mnt/snap##00.bin of=/dev/hdb

Or is DD the seperate download of Digital Dolly?

I couldn't get knoppix to mount an unformatted drive, but it will with a new MBR?

Sorry, I'm a Windows guy just getting in Linux.

blue68f100
08-19-2006, 10:42 PM
dd if=/mnt/snap##00.bin of=/dev/hdb
If you ran this cmd with no errors you are ready to install the drive.

The nomencleture below will help explain the cmd line.
if = input file or device (/mnt/snap##00.bin)
of = output file or device (/dev/hdb = hd on ide0 slave)

You are right, you can not mount a drive without a mbr.

dd = digital dolly. There is also a live cd version out (download.com or majorgeeks.com)

harddisque
08-20-2006, 01:15 PM
Trying Snap1000.rar...command ran in Linux..put drive back in server..it's back inthe 1 +2 mode again

does the snap1000.rar file need anything done to it? renamed? unconpressed?

still can't get past this hump

blue68f100
08-20-2006, 01:45 PM
The ".rar" is a file compression type. You will need WinRAR or v10 WinZip to decompress the file. It's just an updated "zip" file.

jckohler
08-30-2006, 09:47 PM
Great Thread!!

I have a Dell 705N. Software 3.4.790, Hardware 2.2.1, server# 554645, BIOS 2.4.437


I had a drive failure about a year ago, and replaced the 40gb drives with 80 gb drives (one at a time). I still only have 120 Gb in RAID 5, but never worried about it, but now I'm running out of space. I assume I have to do 'co de format 10000 /reinit' to get it to recognize the larger drives. Should I first convert my RAID5 to JBOD? Do I have to format each drive, or will the statement above do it for all 4?

I also need to have my server work with a Windows 2003 Server AD. I understand I need 4.0.830 and then 4.0.860 for that. Where can I get these?

I've read the tips on getting it to be a generic and accept the Snap firmwares.

Currently I only have 64 Mb of memory, but I will upgrade that to 256 Mb.

blue68f100
08-30-2006, 09:59 PM
Back-up data if you want it.

Yes to JBOD
10000, 10008, 10010, 10018 for all drive id "co de format xxxxx /reinit"

To load the Snap OS you will need to change a bios flag. then do the upgrade.

There is a work around for MS AD support posted in the wiki section.

jckohler
08-30-2006, 11:07 PM
Thanks for drive-ID's. I'm sure they were somewhere in the past 50 pages of this thread.

I read about the bios flag for the upgrade, but I'm unclear where I can find the firmware itself.

I did read the Wiki section on "Snap OS v3 with Active Directory" but that seems specific to the case of having a Unix machine join the AD and then channeling it through an NFS mount. I was hoping to specify AD users directly from the Snap.

Thanks,

Christian

Phoenix32
08-31-2006, 02:59 AM
Then IMHO you are going to need SNAP OS v4.0.860... Don't forget, that 705 is basicly a 4100 which means 137GB limit per drive.

blue68f100
08-31-2006, 08:36 AM
You may need to remove all drives execpt drive 1 to do the reinit. The size is controlled off drive 1.

jckohler
08-31-2006, 11:48 AM
Thanks for the suggestion about only formatting drive 1. The question remains how I get v4.0.860? I looked at the Adaptec site, but could only find S2S.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Christian

blue68f100
08-31-2006, 01:49 PM
There is a 3.4.807 that is free. But dont know what was added or fixed from the 805 version. The 805 version was the 1st to support large disk, which doesn't apply in your case.

3.4.803 supported AD 2000.
So it is possiable that AD 2003 was added to the 807 version. No one has tested to confirm either way.

Snap would not acknowledge that 3.4.805 even existed. They wanted to sell v4 upgrades. Adaptec has released 3.4.807 which was unknow till 6 months ago. Have no info on what was added or changed.

jckohler
08-31-2006, 02:10 PM
I know there is no benefit for me with large drives (4100), but 3.4.790 had a bug in the web interface that causes it to hang whenever we do a vulnerability (Nessus) scan.

I tried registering my product on the Adaptec site, but since my 705N is old, I don't get any support. Are there other ways to get the free 3.4.807?

How much do I have to pay Adaptec to get 4.0.860?

Thanks so much for all your help,

Christian

jontz
08-31-2006, 03:38 PM
OK, first things first: The 4100 doesn't do JBOD, so you might have some problems converting your array to JBOD unless the 705 is different and does support the function. If it doesn't (which I suspect is the case) and you want larger drives, all you need to do is backup your data on the current array, pull all the drives, install new, bigger drives (if you want to install 120 GB drives, if not, re-init them as blue said leaving drive one in place), set up your new array, and then copy all the data back.

I would upgrade the OS after you have backed up all your data and before you install your new drives (or re-init your old ones), if you are still planning on upgrading the OS. Just in case something goes horribly, horribly wrong.

blue68f100
08-31-2006, 04:11 PM
I know there is no benefit for me with large drives (4100), but 3.4.790 had a bug in the web interface that causes it to hang whenever we do a vulnerability (Nessus) scan.

I tried registering my product on the Adaptec site, but since my 705N is old, I don't get any support. Are there other ways to get the free 3.4.807?

How much do I have to pay Adaptec to get 4.0.860?

Thanks so much for all your help,

Christian

You don't get any phone support. There is a link at the bottom for email support.

jckohler
09-06-2006, 06:36 PM
I'm not having any luck getting even e-mail support. The link I find on the Adaptec site is:
"ASK Us, support via email is available. Your TSID number will be required."

When I submit my server# I get the following message:
The information you have entered indicates that your product is beyond its complimentary support period. Products beyond the complimentary support period are supported on a best effort basis via telephone for a fee.

Any chance somebody could provide me with something > 3.4.790 ?

I just had my server crash again, when we did a Nessus scan of it.

This is what Nessus reports:
"We could crash the Savant web server by sending an invalid GET HTTP request with a negative Content-Length field."

This is what shows up in my logs on the Dell 705N :
PANIC : General Protection Fault (#13) at $0010B48F
EAX=07FFFFFF EBX=00000000 ECX=03F9A301 EDX=0000006E
ESP=00057EF8 EBP=00057F18 ESI=00000000 EDI=00000000

Thanks,

Christian

blue68f100
09-07-2006, 02:19 PM
I do not know if the latest OS will pass that test, either. Most all of these units are used for internal storage, so are not exposed to all of the bad stuff.
V3 was released in 2002?
v4 was 1st released in 2003?

gemineyes
09-19-2006, 12:55 PM
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Hi,

I have a 4100 snap server running OS v3.4.803. I just upgraded to AD 2003 and I need to get this snap server to read the users in AD. I can't rebuild the server because it has working files on it.

I read that I need to upgrade to OS v4, but I don't have the OS upgrade file(s). Can anyone help me with this? It would greatly appreciated.

My email is below if you want to contact me.

Thanks!

dllorin@hotmail.com
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skorpio
09-25-2006, 02:25 PM
Hi,

I just upgraded my Snap Server 1000 with an 80GB HD. Everything worked just fine - thanks to this site!
Just some questions concerning the fan:
- I recognized that the air flows from the back of the case towards the front. Is that correct or have i messed it up during assembly?
- The fan is rather noisy - has anyone replaced that thing with a more silent or efficient device?
- Any possibility to monitor the temperature in the Server? The "new" HD obviously produces more heat than the original one and I just want to be sure it doesn't go up in flames ;-)

Best regards,
R.

Hallis
09-25-2006, 03:29 PM
You'd have to use an external temp probe to monitor the HDD temp. The fan i believe is supposed to draw air into the unit but im not sure about that one. People have replaced the fans. Just find the dimmensions, i BELIEVE they are 40x40mm and get another fan from Fry's or someplace like that.

Shane

blue68f100
10-21-2006, 12:52 PM
Does any one read this any more ????

Can't let the best thread die.

It is loaded with tons of good info. The only problem is that it's a novel.