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pHaestus
02-13-2005, 08:25 PM
I got a promotional e-mail today from this company, but unfortunately not much info on the internal design:

http://www.com-tra.de/shop/en_EN/produkt/id_is_3247

From the linked review it outperforms the NexXxos XP which puts it in the "good performer range for sure. Looks like the universal adapter is a pretty good design too. They offered to send a block for me to review in the e-mail; I'll respond with my address and give you guys a more informed opinion if they send one.

joeyek
02-13-2005, 09:09 PM
http://www.caseumbau.de/index.php?page=test302/test302
http://www.kuehlertest.de/include.php?path=content/content.php&contentid=93&PHPKITSID=e56c09f4925f0a194ed0ce791aa59af6
without a nozzle design to get better flow rate of course. However it can beat NexXxoS XP in a K7 platform maybe it seems to disobey the rule that the heat generated by cpu wont spread laterally very far from the die.
Here is the USA reseller from which I have just ordered one CF-1,coming soon
http://www.cool-cases-usa.com/

Senater_Cache
02-13-2005, 09:14 PM
I got a promotional e-mail today from this company, but unfortunately not much info on the internal design:

http://www.com-tra.de/shop/en_EN/produkt/id_is_3247

From the linked review it outperforms the NexXxos XP which puts it in the "good performer range for sure. Looks like the universal adapter is a pretty good design too. They offered to send a block for me to review in the e-mail; I'll respond with my address and give you guys a more informed opinion if they send one.

Im translating the German that is accompanying the pic on the linked site.....
---Dieser neue Wasserkühler aus dem Hause LICS besitzt eine neuartige, optimierte SPEEDCHANNEL Kanalstruktur, die einen maximalen Durchfluss bei somit maximaler Wärmeableitung ermöglicht. Die in der Kupfer-Bodenplatte vorhandenen Kühlkanäle wurden noch einmal glasgestrahlt, um ein Maximum an Oberfläche---


"This new Watercooler made by LICS features the innovative, optimised SPEEDCHANNEL channel-structure, which enables a maximum through-flow which yields maximal het transfer.
The cooling channels on teh copper baseplate, have been glass-sprayed (I dont know the proper English term) to maximize surface area.

The top is Brass btw (Messing)

hopes this helps somewhat until the block gets here.


They call them channels, so its possibly WW or RBX styled inside...

SenC.

murray13
02-13-2005, 09:35 PM
glass-sprayed = bead blasted (like sand blasting only using small glass beads)

Here is a link with some internal pics link (http://www.caseumbau.de/index.php?page=test302/test302_3)

BillA
02-14-2005, 10:37 AM
be interesting to see what occurs when Corsair's patent is breached

Les
02-14-2005, 01:47 PM
"be interestimg"
not to me
I am only interested in the science

BalefireX
02-14-2005, 03:06 PM
be interesting to see what occurs when Corsair's patent is breached

What part of that design is patented?

BillA
02-14-2005, 03:30 PM
some combination of fin spacing/density
have not seen the patent

Cathar
02-14-2005, 05:23 PM
Well the world has now been turned upside-down. German waterblock makers now pushing "high flow". What will happen next?

I personally remain very skeptical that this design will outdo a NexXxoS XP in a properly set up testbed, but hey, stranger things have happened. Am very interested to see results.

Qerryterry
02-14-2005, 07:44 PM
Hi Guys!

I don't post here that much but i read here very often. Now i think it is time to speak :) .

I live in germany and so i could get this block really easy.
I searched a little and see what i found

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Masterfreezer II (http://www.cooled-cases.de/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_24_63&products_id=480)

It is availiable since 14.2.05 on their site.
It seems like the top has got these speedschannels also now.

Top (http://www.cooled-cases.de/catalog/popup_image.php?pID=480&image=3)
Top2 (http://www.cooled-cases.de/catalog/popup_image.php?pID=480&image=2)

Top and Bottomplate (http://www.cooled-cases.de/catalog/popup_image.php?pID=480&image=4)

pHaestus i hope you contact them to send both blocks - might be even more interesting..

QT

Jag
02-18-2005, 06:55 AM
be interesting to see what occurs when Corsair's patent is breached

Bill,
Isn't it Delphi's patent (instead of Corsair's), I mean they were the ones manufacturing the blocks for Corsair, were they not?

Here's one pic of the block on the Hydrocool 200:
http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/1048526465mgEPK0TCm3_2_10_l.jpg

Butcher
02-18-2005, 07:36 AM
Bill,
Isn't it Delphi's patent (instead of Corsair's), I mean they were the ones manufacturing the blocks for Corsair, were they not?

That doesn't make them the patent holder - Corsair could have licenced them to use the patent (somewhat likely since they were making blocks for Corsair).

BillA
02-18-2005, 09:13 AM
Jag, you are correct
I keep forgetting that stev is Delphi and not Corsair, but and advocate of both

Blackeagle
03-06-2005, 11:17 AM
So is this company going to send a block for testing?

And if Corsair/Delphi had this patent all along why no action vs all then other designs with channels? Sounds weak, at best they can become the RAMBUS of waterblocks.

If they even file such a action I'll buy nothing from any company, like Corsair, that is involved with them.