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What do you want to see on it? Read the announcement for more info, and post your input here.
One of the things pH mentioned and I am expanding on is:
Cooling hardware vendor talks. Having hosted and moderated IRC sessions where a rep from a cooling MFG or business will do Q/A with ProCooling folks.
pH's idea was to have a MFG, Vendor rep area of the forums where say a geek from Company A would answer questions or provide info about their products. Giving them a free place to spread info about their products, to a very focused crowd.
The Pro/Deals area is going away also (for now, I havent really planned a way to get it back into the site, since most vendors didnt use it much at all).
Everything pH and myself are looking at is squarely focused on re-energizing the site, and making it a solid place to go for REAL cooling info on the web. It is already one of the most technical cooling sites around, now we just need to get some more action going on here ;)
I have thought of the idea of doing a few subscription services on the site, but I havent come up with anything solid for that yet.
And last of all, one thing I need to get up and running is: an Online article posting, and proofing system. So that we can get people to post articles with ease.
Also Cooling news will be listed on the front page now. This will be based on the posts that people we give access to, post in the Cooling News area.
starbuck3733t
08-23-2005, 09:57 AM
Good show Joe. I'm looking forward to the workBlogs feature (good name, too.)
RSS feeds, please :)
You want us to supply RSS feeds, or host RSS feeds from other sites?
Etacovda
08-23-2005, 10:19 AM
both, you've been slack for too long joe! ;)
** Etacovda cracks whip
In all seriousness though, sounds good.
The irc idea sounds excellent.
Find the best cheap watercooling parts/kits via testing perhaps?
Id love to see heatsink reviews done on the same platform as watercooling reviews, to get a TRUE comparison unlike some other places.
Graphics card block tests, which i think pH was going to be doing anyway.
Procooling wiki hasnt been done yet...
hell, theres heaps of options
both, you've been slack for too long joe! ;)
** Etacovda cracks whip
In all seriousness though, sounds good.
The irc idea sounds excellent.
Find the best cheap watercooling parts/kits via testing perhaps?
Id love to see heatsink reviews done on the same platform as watercooling reviews, to get a TRUE comparison unlike some other places.
Graphics card block tests, which i think pH was going to be doing anyway.
Procooling wiki hasnt been done yet...
hell, theres heaps of options
Yeh the Wiki is something that will be incorporated down the line. The Wiki wasnt my idea, it was pH's and he hasnt found a Wiki package that he wanted to use yet.
If you know of a good PHP/MySQL based one let me know.
oh and about the RSS feeds, I dont know how the hell to do either of those things, RSS feeds are sort of a black box to me. I will have to read up on them down the road.
Etacovda
08-23-2005, 11:14 AM
whilst we're at it, can i suggest a slight change - the 90 second search limit be dropped? its fairly annoying when you're trying to find a thread from a while back, and cant remember exactly what was in it.
whilst we're at it, can i suggest a slight change - the 90 second search limit be dropped? its fairly annoying when you're trying to find a thread from a while back, and cant remember exactly what was in it.
Yeh sure and I will drop the 10 char min post requirement.
starbuck3733t
08-23-2005, 11:29 AM
You want us to supply RSS feeds, or host RSS feeds from other sites?
Supply. Sorry I wasn't more clear.
whilst we're at it, can i suggest a slight change - the 90 second search limit be dropped? its fairly annoying when you're trying to find a thread from a while back, and cant remember exactly what was in it.
All fixed, its at a 15 sec search limit now.
Etacovda
08-23-2005, 11:37 AM
excellent, cheers :)
Roscal
08-24-2005, 05:25 AM
Why in new section "High End Cooling Discussions (Liquid, Phase Change, Etc...) " there's always the subforums again ? It's completely redundant with the index page, subforums take a lot of space on that page for nothing and need scrolling every time :/ . Why don't delete them from the new section to clarify the forum ?
I changed all that ;)
How you like it now?
pHaestus
08-24-2005, 01:34 PM
Is there critical mass for all those component subforums? I'd be inclined to leave all the wcing stuff in a single forum and explore a way of "tagging" threads so they could be easily searched for instead if it were possible...
Roscal
08-24-2005, 01:35 PM
Nice and clearer than before for me (and probably for others). Thx Joe.
I see 2 stickies about pumps that aren't in the new pump sub-section.
Is there critical mass for all those component subforums? I'd be inclined to leave all the wcing stuff in a single forum and explore a way of "tagging" threads so they could be easily searched for instead if it were possible...
Critical mass isnt needed at a per topic level, really its about the forum itself. Having specific topics will help organize ideas better, while not really removing any of the functionality.
Honestly looking at the main cooling forum, its quite full of stuff, and is a pain to just look through. This way a more focused view of questions and such can happen.
Also pH the break up gives me some abilities for when I make the user tuneable front page to let people pick more detailed items they want to see.
Most of the changes I am making are for the new site when it comes online.
pHaestus
08-24-2005, 03:01 PM
hey Joe I am gonna bail from work early so I can ftp those files to you. I have them all .zip 'd so it shouldnt take TOO long to get them up on procooling. Dunno why Radmin isn't working from here...
we all know why you cant up them normally :) It would hit the WoW traffic too much ;) hehe
jaydee
08-26-2005, 12:12 AM
Maybe a closed forum for commercial development? Lately I am finding it hard to post stuff in the water block design forum because the ideas that we have came up with over the years end up in commercial blocks and no credit is given for the most part. People like Bruce and Cathar have given credit and I have no problem at all sharing ideas with them and seeing it transform into a commercial product before the leechers do it first. Would have to be some kind of screening process though....
Might be hard to work out though.
Other than that I guess it is about what audience to cater to. Not a lot of technically minded people out there (that is not meant as disrespect to anyone). I think a lot of people just want to know what parts to buy and don't want to know why those parts are the one's to use. I can understand that completely but it still kinda goes against the principle we try to convey that educating people is the way to go instead of giving them the answers.
Anyway I am way to tired to think to strait right now. :drool: Going to bed.
Its an interesting idea. I am not sure how much support from the people those forums would be for, actually exists.
Also I did change around the user titles today. It seems that we lost all the other titles at some point and everyone was a registered geek.
Now at 0 posts its Cooling Neophyte, 100 Posts : Cooling Savant 1000 Posts: Thermophile
jaydee
08-26-2005, 11:52 AM
Its an interesting idea. I am not sure how much support from the people those forums would be for, actually exists.
Not sure either.
I think the workblog deal is going to be good if managed right. That should cover a lot of levels of the audience that view this site, if people actually post stuff anyway.
I suspect there might have to be an added level of moderation which I belive your working on. I am finding that blogs seem to be a target of spamers lately.
starbuck3733t
08-26-2005, 12:04 PM
I'll definitely post content, and happily move my project (see sig) into workblogs.
pHaestus
08-26-2005, 01:52 PM
Shouldn't it go thermophile, mesophile, psycrophile? Presumably the more of a Procooler you are, the colder your environment gets :)
hehe we can add those levels above thermophile :)
billbartuska
08-26-2005, 02:20 PM
Maybe a closed forum for commercial development? Lately I am finding it hard to post stuff in the water block design forum because the ideas that we have came up with over the years end up in commercial blocks and no credit is given for the most part......
Other than that I guess it is about what audience to cater to.....
My 2 cents.
There are other forums that do this. I, not being a manufacturer (and it's extreemely unlikely I ever will be, though I do have a drill press, lathe, and mill)), can't access information that may/may not be usefull to me...I can't even find out IF it would be usefull.
This site is the sliced bread of water cooling. I'm an engineer and in many ways alot like \\WING//. I NEED a place to see if my ideas are valid (though I'm not quite as presumptions as he!). Locking me out, and I assume others of the same ilk would be a disservice to the WC community.
The pros (manufacturers) can always email if the discussion gets too specific. Again, this site is THE PLACE!
JWFokker
08-26-2005, 05:52 PM
Blackjack! And hookers!
Marci
08-31-2005, 02:46 PM
A "commercial only" forum for the companies to use imo would be fairly useless. You've got representation here from Swiftech, LRWW, ThermoChill, Laing/Delphi, C-Systems, HWLabs and probably others that I just don't notice as I rarely venture outside of certain sections, but the info that would likely be posted is the same info that none of us can particularly share due to work ethics. They would be rarely used unless at some point we were all going to unite with a common stance on an issue directly affecting all of us... the opportunity for which rarely arises and is unlikely to. I'd prefer to mingle with the end-users... We now know that out of those companies above, at least 3 of us can't really share much in the way of product development etc, and what we do share is publicly available anyways so would just be repetition.
It would be nice to see an alliance of manufacturers working towards a common goal, however, for it to work it has to be a behind the scenes alliance anyway... u get me?
What WOULD be good would be a ProCooling stamp of approval for use elsewhere... u find a review worthy of the calibre found here, you award that review the ProC stamp... hopefully the review writer / host site would add the stamp to the review at the beginning or end... gives the endusers more faith in the reviews they're reading, and may also cause some review sites to buck their ideas up to try and attain the stamp.
Appoint a team from those in the know here to decide which reviews warrant that stamp... and perhaps have a closed section for that team where they can nominate and discuss reviews.
bigben2k
08-31-2005, 07:44 PM
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What WOULD be good would be a ProCooling stamp of approval for use elsewhere... u find a review worthy of the calibre found here, you award that review the ProC stamp... hopefully the review writer / host site would add the stamp to the review at the beginning or end... gives the endusers more faith in the reviews they're reading, and may also cause some review sites to buck their ideas up to try and attain the stamp.
Appoint a team from those in the know here to decide which reviews warrant that stamp... and perhaps have a closed section for that team where they can nominate and discuss reviews.
Now doesn't that sound like a familiar idea... :rolleyes:
Marci
09-01-2005, 05:56 AM
Dunno... does it?? Already suggested or already done by someone else? Question being, has that someone else got the same weight behind them in terms of technical regard compared to ProC... or did I just miss summat?
jaydee
09-01-2005, 09:18 AM
I think ProCooling technical weight means nothing to most people on other sites. I doubt other sites would put ProCoolings name on their sites either as they are usually competitive sites. Ben's idea on the WBTA.us was sound. Problem is not enough interest from the people that could make it work. WBTA.us wouldn't have been a competitive site either so their logo of approval would have been no problem.
pHaestus
09-01-2005, 12:18 PM
I do not think that is true at all JayDee. I get PMs and AIM messages and e-mails fairly often from smaller website writers asking me what I think about their content. I think that we are one of the few sites that says publicly "wow that was shit" for bad articles, and so "hey this is good stuff here guys" would probably carry more weight in the community (minus the superpower sites) than you think.
superart
09-01-2005, 12:36 PM
hey, I got an idea for a subscriber service.
When you do reviews, take pictures of the waterblocks with big breasted naked chicks. Kinda like how bit-tech.net does it.
You can call the section "Hookers With Hardware" or something along those lines.
jaydee
09-01-2005, 12:37 PM
I do not think that is true at all JayDee. I get PMs and AIM messages and e-mails fairly often from smaller website writers asking me what I think about their content. I think that we are one of the few sites that says publicly "wow that was shit" for bad articles, and so "hey this is good stuff here guys" would probably carry more weight in the community (minus the superpower sites) than you think.
Maybe so. I don't think we have the time to be writting our own articles and reviews let alone being editors for everyone else though.
Ls7corvete
09-01-2005, 12:39 PM
hey, I got an idea for a subscriber service.
When you do reviews, take pictures of the waterblocks with big breasted naked chicks. Kinda like how bit-tech.net does it.
You can call the section "Hookers With Hardware" or something along those lines.
That would be awsome, have a photo shoot with some hotties installing a storm. Great new way to fund the site, pay-WCing-porn site.
Etacovda
09-01-2005, 03:48 PM
Maybe so. I don't think we have the time to be writting our own articles and reviews let alone being editors for everyone else though.
Its basically done already, lol
Ls7corvete
09-01-2005, 04:00 PM
Its basically done already, lol
You could make a sort of testing guidelines that other sites should follow to ensure that they are putting out valuable reviews and test data. A starduard of excellence that can help allow us to compare products from various sites and greatly expand the information we have availble without rellying only on proC members.
You guys are the testing experts, show others the light.
bigben2k
09-02-2005, 03:43 PM
Yep, tried that too:
http://wbta.us/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=18&Itemid=1&lang=en
(another work in progress... :rolleyes: )
BillA
09-02-2005, 04:23 PM
Yep, tried that too:
http://wbta.us/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=18&Itemid=1&lang=en
(another work in progress... :rolleyes: )
the cart in front of the horse
'industry stds', as the name implies, are written by industry reps having the knowledge and experience
amateurs, no matter how well intentioned, are literally incapable of even drafting a proposed std as the industry consensus for such does not exist
i.e. I do believe that there are mfgrs who do NOT wish for testing requirements to be defined
- how many mfgrs today provide test data on their products ?
L7
very few experts really, such is relative
good info has been repeatedly proferred, and as often as not argued with and/or ignored
Ls7corvete
09-02-2005, 07:55 PM
the cart in front of the horse
'industry stds', as the name implies, are written by industry reps having the knowledge and experience
amateurs, no matter how well intentioned, are literally incapable of even drafting a proposed std as the industry consensus for such does not exist
i.e. I do believe that there are mfgrs who do NOT wish for testing requirements to be defined
- how many mfgrs today provide test data on their products ?
L7
very few experts really, such is relative
good info has been repeatedly proferred, and as often as not argued with and/or ignored
Agian you prefer no knowledge to some knowledge.
Sounds all well and good for the knowlegeable, not so good for the dumb, deaf and blind ones like us.
BillA
09-02-2005, 08:17 PM
suggest re-reading the last sentence of my post
and you can only be recently arrived from Mars to state that I "prefer no knowledge"
Ben et all could write a 'guide' for reviewers, and then be immersed in pseudo technical arguments using defined terms in a sloppy lay sense, etc. etc.
read the old threads, this has been hashed to death and beyond
"dumb, deaf and blind" does not need to extend beyond birth, at a certain point we all have an obgligation to learn - or accept the guidance of others willing to do so
Ls7corvete
09-02-2005, 09:36 PM
suggest re-reading the last sentence of my post
and you can only be recently arrived from Mars to state that I "prefer no knowledge"
Ben et all could write a 'guide' for reviewers, and then be immersed in pseudo technical arguments using defined terms in a sloppy lay sense, etc. etc.
read the old threads, this has been hashed to death and beyond
"dumb, deaf and blind" does not need to extend beyond birth, at a certain point we all have an obgligation to learn - or accept the guidance of others willing to do so
So you do think an amatuer standaurd can be achieved?
LPorc
09-03-2005, 12:17 AM
at a certain point we all have an obgligation to learn - or accept the guidance of others willing to do so
Ah, Life! You can't win, you can't break even, and you have to keep on playing. Kinda like thermodynamics.
BillA
09-03-2005, 11:29 AM
Ah, Life! You can't win, you can't break even, and you have to keep on playing. Kinda like thermodynamics.
exactly
jaydee
09-03-2005, 10:36 PM
You could make a sort of testing guidelines that other sites should follow to ensure that they are putting out valuable reviews and test data. A starduard of excellence that can help allow us to compare products from various sites and greatly expand the information we have availble without rellying only on proC members.
You guys are the testing experts, show others the light.
Then why would anyone bother coming here then? If Joe wants to get this site rocking again then it might not be in our intrest to make other sites better. One of the reasons people come here is to get "better" info. If we lost that then what would be have?
Also I agree with unregistered on just about everything posted above.
bigben2k
09-04-2005, 02:22 PM
I think that most of the objections to my effort is in the semantics:
The term "Alliance" (WBTA - Water Block Testing Alliance) can imply some kind of industrial involvement, and it doesn't. Bill is right, it's an amateur effort. I don't think that Bill meant to imply that it shouldn't be done though. Maybe if I used the term "Group" or "Association" instead of "Alliance", the objective and nature of the effort would be better understood.
The mission statement curently posted doesn't clearly state that:
http://wbta.us/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2&Itemid=1&lang=en
Also, the term "standards" is ambiguous. "Guidelines" would be more appropriate, alongside with "requirements".
(anything else?)
The fundamental idea is still there tough; get review sites to review water cooling equipment with some kind of credibility.
jaydee
09-04-2005, 03:09 PM
I think that most of the objections to my effort is in the semantics:
The term "Alliance" (WBTA - Water Block Testing Alliance) can imply some kind of industrial involvement, and it doesn't. Bill is right, it's an amateur effort. I don't think that Bill meant to imply that it shouldn't be done though. Maybe if I used the term "Group" or "Association" instead of "Alliance", the objective and nature of the effort would be better understood.
The mission statement curently posted doesn't clearly state that:
http://wbta.us/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2&Itemid=1&lang=en
Also, the term "standards" is ambiguous. "Guidelines" would be more appropriate, alongside with "requirements".
(anything else?)
The fundamental idea is still there tough; get review sites to review water cooling equipment with some kind of credibility.
Who will follow the guidelines though? If they have no reason to change their ways... I think your attack of this problem may have been backwards. I think there would be a better outcome if educating the readers to understand why more complicated testing is needed to benefit them. Until they know this there is no one to push these reviewers to do better. The reviewers don't need resources to make them do better, they need a reason to do better. The only one's to do that is the readers of their sites. All the info for the test bench is already out there, now they just need to be pushed to do it. people are problem solvers by default, if they need to build a better test bench they will.
There was once a day when people tried to better themselves, today however society seems to need to be pushed to do better... You have to make them believe they are getting something out of the deal...
Ls7corvete
09-04-2005, 06:03 PM
Jaydee: I dont think that making procooling #1 is the goal here, more to improve the quality of the info and conversation on procooling and cooling in general.
Poor Bill, so mis-understood, I do get a strong feel that he is against some sort of testing alliance(w/e you wanna call it, the name doesnt change anything) etc. I appologize if I missunderstand which obviously I have.
I only bring up testing because there seems to be an interestI get PMs and AIM messages and e-mails fairly often from smaller website writers asking me what I think about their content.
The main difference between WBTA and procooling being the audience. Hardware sites often do cooling articles, no reason a cooling site cannot do a testing article.
jaydee
09-04-2005, 06:26 PM
Jaydee: I dont think that making procooling #1 is the goal here, more to improve the quality of the info and conversation on procooling and cooling in general.
So let's do that and not worry about the other sites.... If they want to half ass their stuff let them. If people want good info they can come here.
bigben2k
09-04-2005, 06:34 PM
So let's do that and not worry about the other sites.... If they want to half ass their stuff let them. If people want good info they can come here.
Actually, I take that to mean that I should be going through all of the email addresses that I've collected, of anyone that ever posted a review of a water block, and get their attention.
Otherwise you're right: there's a gap that needs to be filled, in terms of understanding.
jaydee
09-04-2005, 06:40 PM
Actually, I take that to mean that I should be going through all of the email addresses that I've collected, of anyone that ever posted a review of a water block, and get their attention.
Otherwise you're right: there's a gap that needs to be filled, in terms of understanding.
Take it however you wish. I just don't see spending countless hours trying to get the 100's of sites to do better reviews. Better off spending the time DOING better reviews and setting a higher standard IMO. To many people just don't give a shit about quality and are concerned with quantity.
Ls7corvete
09-04-2005, 08:47 PM
Take it however you wish. I just don't see spending countless hours trying to get the 100's of sites to do better reviews. Better off spending the time DOING better reviews and setting a higher standard IMO. To many people just don't give a shit about quality and are concerned with quantity.
I simply think most people here would rather see the quality of all sites improve and not just this site. I dont think that just abandoning the other sites is in our best interest.
jaydee
09-04-2005, 08:54 PM
I simply think most people here would rather see the quality of all sites improve and not just this site. I dont think that just abandoning the other sites is in our best interest.
I am not sure I understand this really. If people wanted to see the quality of all sites raised then they should speak out to the sites they visit and remind the webmaster they will go elsewhere if their quality isn't up to that of other sites. I don't see why we have to be baby sitters for the entire world. Who's going to spend the time going to all the hundreds of thousands of tech sites and telling them to shape up? I don't have time to do the projects I want to do for this site let alone do that for thousands of other sites.
What exactly do you suggest we do?
Ls7corvete
09-05-2005, 01:24 AM
I am not sure I understand this really. If people wanted to see the quality of all sites raised then they should speak out to the sites they visit and remind the webmaster they will go elsewhere if their quality isn't up to that of other sites. I don't see why we have to be baby sitters for the entire world. Who's going to spend the time going to all the hundreds of thousands of tech sites and telling them to shape up? I don't have time to do the projects I want to do for this site let alone do that for thousands of other sites.
What exactly do you suggest we do?
Simply share what you learn with others so they can replicate testing successfully. Basically, make it so that not only the pro testers can put out quality info.
Obviously none of us would be here if there wasnt some interest in sharing what we have learned with others.
jaydee
09-05-2005, 09:55 AM
Simply share what you learn with others so they can replicate testing successfully. Basically, make it so that not only the pro testers can put out quality info.
Obviously none of us would be here if there wasnt some interest in sharing what we have learned with others.
Pretty sure we already do that? No one is listening...
mashie
09-05-2005, 10:49 AM
Add support forums for various WC manufacturers like www.hexus.net has done here (http://forums.hexus.net/forumdisplay.php?f=69).
pHaestus
09-05-2005, 12:30 PM
My plan would be to allow the companies to have an "official" CSR account, and anything said from that account is the word from the company. That'll let people who already post here as individuals (there are quite a few) continue to make comments as an individual and not be taken to task for speaking their mind. I'd also put all support for wc parts/kits into one forum personally with a list of the CSRs at the top above comments.
Thoughts?
jaydee
09-05-2005, 12:36 PM
My plan would be to allow the companies to have an "official" CSR account, and anything said from that account is the word from the company. That'll let people who already post here as individuals (there are quite a few) continue to make comments as an individual and not be taken to task for speaking their mind. I'd also put all support for wc parts/kits into one forum personally with a list of the CSRs at the top above comments.
Thoughts?
Sounds good to me.
BillA
09-06-2005, 11:38 AM
My plan would be to allow the companies to have an "official" CSR account, and anything said from that account is the word from the company. That'll let people who already post here as individuals (there are quite a few) continue to make comments as an individual and not be taken to task for speaking their mind. I'd also put all support for wc parts/kits into one forum personally with a list of the CSRs at the top above comments.
Thoughts?
good idea
Marci
09-06-2005, 11:43 AM
aye...
OK, my schedule is starting to open up... for the week, so I can get back working on the site changes. I have been real busy on the weekends the last few weeks with weddings, work, drinking, etc...
But I do like much of what has been said so far.
bigben2k
09-06-2005, 01:56 PM
My plan would be to allow the companies to have an "official" CSR account, and anything said from that account is the word from the company. That'll let people who already post here as individuals (there are quite a few) continue to make comments as an individual and not be taken to task for speaking their mind. I'd also put all support for wc parts/kits into one forum personally with a list of the CSRs at the top above comments.
Thoughts?
That is actually an excellent idea; I think it would be a significant addition to ProCooling.
pHaestus
09-06-2005, 03:17 PM
What would be the ideal name for the forum? "Cooling Technical Support" invites non-mfgr related questions. "Cooling Customer Service Hotline" is probably more accurate but kinda cheesy. Maybe "Cooling CSR Forums" and the byline "Get assistance from customer service reps from xxx, xxx, xxx, and xxx here? (where xxx are the companies of course). If we have an acceptable name I'm sure Joe will add the forum.
mashie
09-06-2005, 04:25 PM
What would be the ideal name for the forum? "Cooling Technical Support" invites non-mfgr related questions. "Cooling Customer Service Hotline" is probably more accurate but kinda cheesy. Maybe "Cooling CSR Forums" and the byline "Get assistance from customer service reps from xxx, xxx, xxx, and xxx here? (where xxx are the companies of course). If we have an acceptable name I'm sure Joe will add the forum.
"Manufacturer Support" as a section and one subforum for each manufacturer perhaps?
BillA
09-06-2005, 04:28 PM
some co.s have their own support site, e.g. house of help for Corsair
and note that there are 'legit' requests re products, and 'illegit' ones such as 'how much better . . . .'
and I would suggest an 'overcompetition' rule be established; no mfgr may post in a thread whose title refers to another mfgr's product
this precludes sniping at products by those with a competitive interest
a discussion here
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=373807&highlight=overcompetition+
Ask The Expert
must be a/the co designated rep
pHaestus
09-06-2005, 04:34 PM
"Manufacturer Support" as a section and one subforum for each manufacturer perhaps?
I dont think there's enough traffic to warrant subforums for all mfgrs. Plus (no offense mfgrs) if every post goes into one high traffic forum then everyone will get better response times.
It's possible to set it up so anyone in the "CSR" group gets an e-mail when there's a new post in that forum too. We can also put a tag on that e-mail so they are easy to sort with message rules. Should be slick and easy and work well (even moreso if mfgrs also include a link on their own sites).
mashie
09-06-2005, 04:46 PM
I dont think there's enough traffic to warrant subforums for all mfgrs. Plus (no offense mfgrs) if every post goes into one high traffic forum then everyone will get better response times.
It's possible to set it up so anyone in the "CSR" group gets an e-mail when there's a new post in that forum too. We can also put a tag on that e-mail so they are easy to sort with message rules. Should be slick and easy and work well (even moreso if mfgrs also include a link on their own sites).
Well if you add "CSR" email notification I see no reason why it would take longer to get a response from dedicated forums compared to a common. Also set the default view in those forums to a year or more so less used forums won't look uninhabited.
Also, how many manufacturers are we talking about 4-5? Shouldn't take up too much precious index page real estate.
I can't wait to see the result from someone posting "What kit should I buy?" in a common forum ;)
567234ta
09-07-2005, 06:23 AM
Looks like we win :evilaugh: pornsite it is
http://cryo-laboratory.com/upload/userfiles/rhino56/girl-in-snow04.jpg
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