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superart
09-01-2005, 01:43 PM
OK, I am in the market for a descent used car.

I'm looking for something that is a good every day commuter, but can also be taken to the track without having people point and laugh.

My budget is around $4-5K

Currently I'm looking at:
'93-'95 Toyota MR2
Mazda MX3

Any other suggestions??

Tempus
09-01-2005, 02:18 PM
How are your mechanic skills?

superart
09-01-2005, 03:14 PM
novice, at best.

But I am hoping to learn with the car that I get.

Belenar
09-01-2005, 06:48 PM
Why don't you try to look for a Volvo 480 Turbo in good condition. Those are very fast (adjustable Turbo) and pretty cheap. They're pretty ugly though :D

HammerSandwich
09-01-2005, 11:26 PM
...but can also be taken to the track without having people point and laugh.What kind of track? Recommendations for dragracing will not match those for autocrossing.

superart
09-01-2005, 11:30 PM
road type courses.
maybe some endurance racing.


not prticularely interested in drag.

Autobot
09-02-2005, 12:06 AM
For $4500 you can get yourself into a 1995 Infiniti Q45. I once had a '91 Infiniti Q45 and I tell you they are NICE cars. Comfortable, roomy and powerful. I got my '91 Q45 to pull 15's in the quarter mile at woodburn dragstrip several years ago. That was with full interior and no engine modifications. The only downsides are insurance and the cost of repairs. Major repairs on these cars few and far between thought since they are made very well. One of the best japanese 8-cylinder engines you'll ever find.

superart
09-02-2005, 12:39 AM
how is fuel consumption on those?

8 cylinder, sounds like a thirsty bugger.

HammerSandwich
09-02-2005, 09:33 AM
road type courses.
maybe some endurance racing.
You want a Miata. They're cheap, reliable, and fuel-efficient while also offering great handling and a terrific upgrade path. I'd lean toward the '94-95 with the 1.8L but not OBD2. If you compete twice a year (including autocross), Mazda Motorsports will sell you parts at dealer cost.

superart
09-02-2005, 12:07 PM
hmm, the miata seems really nice.

Would you reccomend any particular version over another?

superart
09-02-2005, 11:27 PM
http://used-cars.autos.yahoo.com/usedcars/detail/index.html?cid=automobiles-187886626&dst=154.27&rsr=bWFrZT1UT1lPVEEmbW9kZWw9TVIyJmNsX3k9MTk5MyZjaF 95PSZjbF9wcmljZT0mY2hfcHJpY2U9JmNsX21pPSZjaF9taT0m Y2s9Jmd1cj0zMDAmY3N6PTMzNDMzJnZ0eXBlPWF1dG9zJm1rPV RveW90YSZtbz1NUjI-

too good to be true?


It seems shady. First it lists the car as 4 wheel drive. Second, this is the first 2000 model I'v seen under $10K

LPorc
09-03-2005, 01:36 AM
http://used-cars.autos.yahoo.com/usedcars/detail/index.html?cid=automobiles-187886626&dst=154.27&rsr=bWFrZT1UT1lPVEEmbW9kZWw9TVIyJmNsX3k9MTk5MyZjaF 95PSZjbF9wcmljZT0mY2hfcHJpY2U9JmNsX21pPSZjaF9taT0m Y2s9Jmd1cj0zMDAmY3N6PTMzNDMzJnZ0eXBlPWF1dG9zJm1rPV RveW90YSZtbz1NUjI-

too good to be true?


It seems shady. First it lists the car as 4 wheel drive. Second, this is the first 2000 model I'v seen under $10K

Hard to tell, it is half of blue book for good condition. Could either be someone isn't quite sure what they have? Given that it is FL, maybe water damage from hurricanes, or part of an estate sale?

I thought the 2000 MR2 were all Spyders, convertable RWD. Give them a call, might be the estate sale thing, and the family member acting as executor isn't quite sure what it is, and somehow thought 4 wheel ABS and AWD were the same thing and don't realize it's a convertable because Gramps liked the hard top on, windows up, A/C on full blast ;)

Autobot
09-03-2005, 02:24 AM
how is fuel consumption on those?

8 cylinder, sounds like a thirsty bugger.

Well I usually got around 18MPG, but I really tended to romp on it allot. RWD car + 300HP = too much money spent on gas just playing and racing around. If I just drove normally I would get around 21-24MPG.

HammerSandwich
09-03-2005, 08:55 AM
hmm, the miata seems really nice.

Would you reccomend any particular version over another?Personally, I'd just get the cleanest '94-95 I could find within my budget. But all the info you'll need can be found at miata.net (http://www.miata.net/).

superart
09-04-2005, 01:58 PM
why would I want OBDI over OBDII?

bigben2k
09-04-2005, 03:29 PM
OBD2 has more diagnostic info; it's cheaper to fix a problem, when you have a better idea of what it is.

OBD2 is a selection criteria (among others) for my next vehicle.

superart
09-05-2005, 01:45 AM
yea, thats what I thought.

but a few of the articles on miata.net suggest that OBDI is easier to work with than OBDII

HammerSandwich
09-06-2005, 08:54 AM
OBD2 has more diagnostic info; it's cheaper to fix a problem, when you have a better idea of what it is.

OBD2 is a selection criteria (among others) for my next vehicle.
Two sides to that coin. OBD2 adds complexity with more sensors and wiring. For an engineering geek, this may be cool. OTOH, if you prefer to KISS, OBD2 ain't so hot. Let's not forget that all those NASA engineers couldn't determine the recent problem with the shuttle's fuel-pressure sensor.

In addition, OBD2 often limits the performance gain from upgrades, even those with a negligible increase in emissions.

These drawbacks don't matter much to the average person who wants reliable transport. Superart's needs sound a bit different to me.

superart
09-06-2005, 01:13 PM
yea, but wont OBDII offer more data regarding the operation of the car/engine?

Wont this make it easier or be more conducive to tuneing?....assuming I'm not afraid of a little complexity and RTFMing

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Also, I was under the impression that the OBDII bus itself is a little faster than the OBDI. Is this true?