PDA

View Full Version : Snap server kits?


jontz
02-22-2006, 09:02 PM
I found these auctions on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Snap-2000-Server-Kit-1-New-Build-your-own-server_W0QQitemZ8767917311QQcategoryZ167QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/Snap-Server-2000-Kit-2-Up-to-600Gb-Build-yourself_W0QQitemZ8767917626QQcategoryZ167QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem

Did snap or adaptec or meridian or whoever really make a snap server kit or are these guys selling spare parts in a box? These seem to be the same chasis, just different motherboards. Are the differences between these two kits significant or not? I know that they say the kit #1 will only support 120 GB drives, but as I have seen in this forum that isn't always the case and sometimes these units can support larger drives. I have just about zero snap server experience but I am intrigued by them and can't wait to start playing with one. These kits caught my eye but I thought that I would ask some much wiser heads about them first. Thanks for your time and help guys (and gals, if there are any out there).

blue68f100
02-22-2006, 09:46 PM
Kit one is like my 2000 that fried. It uses a single ide controller, sims, w/software raid. I only had 2x80gig, 1 user said >137gig. Being a Software raid, good posibility. Unix does not look at the bios, looks directly at the drives.

Kit 2 Updated to be similar to the 2200, 2 ide controllers, dimm, hardware raid?

I was wonder if/when this was going to happen. Adaptec has been trying to kill off these old units. The best way is sell all of SnapAppliance assets (parts). Then they no longer need to support obsolite hardware. Plus a income source.

I would choose kit 2, Know to support large disk with no problems. The cpu was missing in the socket.

I looked at the photo of kit 1 closely, it is identical to my meridian 2000.

Meridian (kit1)----> Guardian(kit2) ----> SnapAppliance

jontz
02-22-2006, 10:00 PM
Thanks for the info. I read about your fried snap 2000 in a couple of other posts. I found this on ebay as well. It is the motherboard from the kit #1 by itself. Just thought that you might want to take a peek at it if you wanted to revive your old snap 2000, unless you really really like soldering chips onto motherboards. Thanks again for the help.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Snap-2000-Server-Motherboard-SIMM-type-70715022_W0QQitemZ5871035609QQcategoryZ56100QQrdZ1 QQcmdZViewItem

re3dyb0y
02-23-2006, 02:05 AM
www.northwesttechnical.com

If you visit there they are selling OS v2 versions... Documentation

Also spare motherboards and stuff can be bought for the 1000 and 2000

blue68f100
02-23-2006, 07:55 AM
Thanks for the info. I read about your fried snap 2000 in a couple of other posts. I found this on ebay as well. It is the motherboard from the kit #1 by itself. Just thought that you might want to take a peek at it if you wanted to revive your old snap 2000, unless you really really like soldering chips onto motherboards. Thanks again for the help.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Snap-2000-Server-Motherboard-SIMM-type-70715022_W0QQitemZ5871035609QQcategoryZ56100QQrdZ1 QQcmdZViewItem

I have purchased some parts to try to repair it. Just havn't got to. I'm in no hurry. I really wanted a 2200 when I bought the 2000. The 2200 is a magnatude faster than the 2000.

It would be nice to know if the Dimms version of the 2000 uses a std ide controller or promise controllers. Since it has 2 vs 1.

Poogles was able to find out that the older meridian servers have extra software/sup loaded. Suspect this is due to flashram.

jontz
02-23-2006, 08:07 AM
It would be nice to know if the Dimms version of the 2000 uses a std ide controller or promise controllers. Since it has 2 vs 1.


If I end up buying one of the kits I'll let you know what IDE controller it has on board. I haven't made up my mind yet as it looks like there are a couple of 4100's up for auction that might go cheap. I'm just gonna keep an eye on them and see how high they go. I am aware that I can't put hard drives >137 gig in them, but if I can pick one up for under $100, I'll be happy.

blue68f100
02-23-2006, 08:12 AM
If you have patients you can pickup a 2200 off ebay for <$300.00 with 320gig (2 x 160) Which would be a better unit. I paid <$300 for mine including shipping. And My unit was only 3 yrs old by the dates on the drives.

So paying $200 for a 2000v2 is a little high, but it is new obsolite parts.

The key with ebay is learing the tricks to be the last bidder, before the auction ends. Broadband connection help.

re3dyb0y
02-23-2006, 09:05 AM
Yeah, sitting there at the final minutes continuously refreshing

However, you do have the problem of proxy bidding, but if it is a lot less than what you want to pay, you can put a high bid on!

blue68f100
02-23-2006, 11:24 AM
The trick is timming your final proxy bid, so it will be the last one placed. I have figured out how long it takes to process. Returning with 2-3 sec left before closing. My first bid is early. The earlier bidder wins if tie. The auctions ending during the week are easier if the time is not ending during the normal lunch breaks.

jontz
02-24-2006, 07:40 AM
Yep. I have been on eBay since '99, and I am sure that I have pissed off a number of people with my last second bids. One of the best deals I ever got was on an auction that ended at just after midnight, new years day. That guy obviously wasn't thinking when he started the auction. I got a brand new $100 scanner for $14 shipped.

I'll keep my eyes open for a used 2200 like you said, since that is the model that I would really like to get my hands on.

blue68f100
02-24-2006, 08:22 AM
The art of being a "SNIPER".......

The 2200 wan't disapoint you. The 2200 I think starts with 360gig (2x160) so LBA 48 is not an issue. It has smaller footprint than the 2000.

I've seen people on ebay buy the 2000 with NO DRIVES for 150+. If you can pick up some small HD's It should bring 250-300.

Frys Electronics has been selling WD 100gigs for $50.00 for the last month now, w/NO rebate.

re3dyb0y
02-24-2006, 01:24 PM
The art of being a "SNIPER".......

The 2200 wan't disapoint you. The 2200 I think starts with 360gig (2x160) so LBA 48 is not an issue. It has smaller footprint than the 2000.

I've seen people on ebay buy the 2000 with NO DRIVES for 150+. If you can pick up some small HD's It should bring 250-300.

Frys Electronics has been selling WD 100gigs for $50.00 for the last month now, w/NO rebate.


You mean 'The 2200 I think starts with 320gig (2x160)'

Lol

blue68f100
02-24-2006, 03:30 PM
YES, 320 = 2 x 160gig

2000 sell for around 150 most of the time with no drives. Add 100+ if loaded.

Never have seen 2200 with out drives offered, when I was in the market.

jontz
02-25-2006, 07:54 AM
There's a 2200 160 GB (2x80) on ebay right now. The auction just started and they are starting the auction at $249. That seems a little steep to start it at, but I am gonna keep an eye on it anyway.

There are some decent deals on some snap 1000 and 1100 servers with 20-80 GB hard drives if anyone here just wants to pick one up cheap to play with it.

Also, one quick question...the 4000 supports large drives, correct? I am assuming the tradeoff is that it is slower than the 4100.

blue68f100
02-25-2006, 08:17 AM
You got it correct.