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Skee^ 07-31-2003 05:51 PM

It just get better, you always beat yourself. guess experience makes a difference.:rolleyes:

ChrioN 08-01-2003 05:54 AM

Me like.

It must have taken you quite some time to finnish that milling. Never seen anything like this!

JFettig 08-02-2003 09:44 AM

thats really awesome man! I wish I could do something like that. or even have the patients to.

I soon am converting my mill. If you want some information, contact me. you know how;)


that hasta be the best cooler I have seen so far out of anyone! it completely amases me.

You should swap your lead screws out for ballscrews, increase acuracy a TON. you could get your backlash down to almost nothing.

Oooh, I just remembered a suggestion I had for you. Thats Cold Forming Taps. They push the threads into the copper, you drill a larger hole for them. and they can be turned right thru the peice without any problem! I tried cutting taps in copper, 4-40 size, broke 2 or 3 of them and gave up. I got ahold of these things and they are awesome! I have tapped probably 30+ holes so far no problem!

For a 4-40 hole, I drill .1" instead of .089 I beleve it was, I just drop a drop of oil down the hole, start the tap, then drop another around the base of the tap, where it meets the hole. and start turning.

The only way I can see myself breaking one is putting lateral force on it.

I got mine from Jtsmachine.com Mcmaster also has them. Im sure there other places that do too.


Jon

l00b3r 08-03-2003 06:19 AM

Very Sexy :D

Heres goes.

1) Can you provide me with Autocad or similar progz picz/designs as i am going to be cnc milling a block soon, if i get my school based aprentiship.

2) is there any mounting issues you have found yet?

3) what extra things could you do with a CNC mill that you couldnt do with yours?

:D

Thanks

-Matt

BladeRunner 08-03-2003 06:40 AM

1.) I do my designing the old fashion way with paper and pencil. I will have to learn cad etc, but just like web site design programs I find it all very tedious, (reminds me of school home work) :cry:.

2.) None specifically on the FX but there are a few resistors on the PCB that are higher than the ram so these will need to be avoided in a design.

3.) With a CNC I could reproduce things again much more easily, (I hope), and it would allow more complex shapes and sealing solutions, I can't mill curves with my mill so all curved areas & parts are hand made with files. Also once I get CNC I'm sure it will open more doors for me to try other more complex things.

As nicozeg said and after talking with JFettig the other night on MSN and some great links he gave me, I may have a go at CNC converting my mill. Wont be soon though as I'm stripping it down due to moving.

l00b3r 08-03-2003 06:53 AM

Thanks Man :D

1) Im learning autocad by teaching myself, i will have it after tomorrow as the admin at school has an old copy he dont want and to make it better its legit :D

2) Can you point these out at all?

3) Well if my aprentiship comes through ill be happy, but yeah, i wanna be able to make a neat waterblock for my mate, i dont think i would ever make it into a company sorta thing if you get my drift.

Could you also add me to msn .... aeroplane_Jelly_@h...

thanks man :D

-Matt

Divine_Madcat 08-03-2003 10:22 PM

Wow!!! THis is EXACTLY what i need for my FX!!!!!!

pippin88 08-06-2003 06:41 AM

Could you give me the festo product numbers Bladerunner? I've been having a look through the catalogue but there a lot of them :(

BladeRunner 08-06-2003 01:19 PM

pippin88

It depends on what size and style you want?, I'm mainly using 8mm with clean outer shape (no extrenal nut hex), with 1/8bsp taper threads, that I usually turn into straight threads with a die nut, but I also have some other sizes. The best thing to do is get festo, (or one or their agents), to send you a paper catalogue if you don't have one, the online version is useless. These fittings are listed in the OD of the tube, and must be used with the correct type of tubing, (I'm using a transparent polyurethane).

Divine_Madcat 08-06-2003 03:59 PM

Blade- do you have any plans to produce/sell the WB?

Joe 08-06-2003 06:32 PM

Dude bladerunner... WTF.... Why are you so damn awesome?! :D

hehehe

Just outstanding work, I always love seeing what you are doing next.

BladeRunner 08-06-2003 06:38 PM

I'm currently seriously looking into making some coolers in the future. It wont be soon however, but I'm selling my house to get some capital to buy the tooling I need. I'm still investigating the best way to make stuff that will be as true to my one offs as possible while also being production friendly. My one off coolers are to time consuming to make, finish and repeat.

My idea is maybe milling say ten blocks channelling, with all surfacing, holes/threads, etc next to each other on a single plate of copper with set datum points. The datum points would then be used to line up water-jet cutting to cut out the block shapes.

It's a way off yet, but I'm going to try :)

This link JFettig gave me (thanks ;) ) has me wanting to convert my mill, (especially as this guy has the same mill as me, but under a different brand name). I really want something more production based and all in one. Still his project is a superb job although a huge amount of work. The main site is HERE, but you really must see the MOVIE as it had me all :drool: :drool:

Skee^ 08-07-2003 02:51 PM

Really awsome convertsion to do, really think how easy it would be, dont have to buy a new mill either.
is it cheaper?

OT;
(Got the CD? Im working about 10-18 hours per day now so im not mutch home.) :cry: :cry:

BladeRunner 08-20-2003 07:08 PM

A little update as I've been a bit tied up with RL stuff recently :(

I stupidly thought the frontside block was hard to make.......... piece of cake compared to the backside one :p


The backside block shape milled with channelling and retention holes
http://www.zfz.com/pictures/fx5900rrb010.jpg


Using the frontside block bolted to the backside blocks milled shape, to drill the four fluid transfer area retention holes to match and line up correctly.
http://www.zfz.com/pictures/fx5900rrb012.jpg


Surface milling the ram contact area of the otherside of the backside block, about 3.5mm more to go.......
http://www.zfz.com/pictures/fx5900rrb011.jpg

MMZ_TimeLord 08-20-2003 09:43 PM

I've been considering that upgrade to my mill for about a year now... but it's been in storage for almost two. It's the same model (different brand also) as Jeff Davis's and your mill. Only difference I can see between Jeff's and mine is his has a metal cover over the belt area and mine is plastic.

He has the optional stand... I put mine up on a bench.

I now have it out and on a bench... the next step is the coolant reservior and some general cleanup on my bench.

I am currently waiting on my rotary table to come in on friday. Cheap 6" rotary table ($228 US), but well worth it as I can cut circles MUCH easier with that and set precise angles too.

Wonderful work as always BladeRunner! Keep it up... you make me want to play with my mill more and more. :D

nicozeg 08-21-2003 11:37 AM

Ahhhh Blade, It's always a pleasure to see your work! :cool:

I know you have carefully planned everything, but isn't easier to start with a thinner copper plate?

BladeRunner 08-21-2003 12:45 PM

The reasons why I used a 16mm (5/8") thick plate should become clearer when the cooler is finished. Not a very economical use of copper I know, and some tedious milling, again dictated by my design, but the C101HH Copper used there was only around £12 so it's no big problem :)

MMZ_TimeLord 08-22-2003 11:12 AM

/me raises his hand... "ooooh, ooooh!! I know... I know!"

It's so that you have the raised portion to connect the two sides together as part of the back piece instead of having to solder it on or make a second seal. :D

Good job... elegant as usual... not less work... just elegant! :dome:

starbuck3733t 08-22-2003 03:20 PM

Everything you do is a work of art BladeRunner. Care to offer some advice as for what I should look for in a mill?

I go to estate auctions sometimes, and have a friend who works in antiques so she's there all the time. Its pretty common to have work-shop machinery go up for sale.

BladeRunner 08-23-2003 06:06 PM

starbuck3733t

Only advice on mills that I feel I could give, (as I don't know enough about them generally yet myself), is to buy the best / most expensive one you can stretch to. My mill is a SIP 30, (also goes under many other names), is pretty good for what I still consider a "cheep mill". There's a small review of mine on my site or do a search on here for "milling machine" as there are a few good threads on the subject.


MMZ_TimeLord

nearly..............

here are a few more images for your viewing pleasure ;)

http://www.zfz.com/pictures/fx5900rrb028.jpg

http://www.zfz.com/pictures/fx5900rrb029.jpg

http://www.zfz.com/pictures/fx5900rrb030.jpg

http://www.zfz.com/pictures/fx5900rrb031.jpg

http://www.zfz.com/pictures/fx5900rrb032.jpg

http://www.zfz.com/pictures/fx5900rrb033.jpg

http://www.zfz.com/pictures/fx5900rrb034.jpg

http://www.zfz.com/pictures/fx5900rrb035.jpg

MMZ_TimeLord 08-24-2003 12:10 AM

:eek: :eek: :drool: :drool: OOOHHHHH!!! Now I see... you were leaving room for your festo fittings going out the sides of the joint area!!! WOW! Nice thinkin! :D

Well... been working on cleaning up the bench I made and getting all my new hold down equipment and my rotary table places to reside. Have some raw stock and coolant coming from a friend of mine who manages several facilities near here. :dome:

Again, BladeRunner... EXCELLENT work... gonna have to copy that for my next video card (unless you are want some royalties :p )

I will hopefully be posting some of my own work in the near future.

pippin88 08-24-2003 12:45 AM

:drool:

BladeRunner 08-24-2003 08:34 PM

With a few resistor relief's milled in the base, similar to the frontside block they both bolt together sandwiching the card's GPU and Ram. It seems to fit together contacting well and all 10 retention screws line up nicely. Just need to do the lid and fittings for the backside block now along with the finishing process.

http://www.zfz.com/pictures/fx5900rrb039.jpg

http://www.zfz.com/pictures/fx5900rrb040.jpg

http://www.zfz.com/pictures/fx5900rrb041.jpg

-J- 08-24-2003 09:57 PM

blade, are you god??

BladeRunner 08-26-2003 05:35 PM

No God disappeared in a puff of logic ;)

Looks like real life is going to take over for a while, so I may not get much more done for the time being :(

Just done the inflow / outflow holes and tapped them for the 8mm festo fittings

http://www.zfz.com/pictures/fx5900rrb043.jpg

http://www.zfz.com/pictures/fx5900rrb042.jpg


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