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tazdevl 06-29-2002 08:29 PM

BlueCooling - Anyone heard of them?
 
http://www.bluecooling.com/welcome.htm

Seems like some interesting stuff. TEC/WB with a sensor and cutoff.

jtroutma 06-29-2002 11:00 PM

I dont know about this company but I do know that hell will freeze over before I spend $155 - $185 on a waterblock!
:)

tazdevl 06-30-2002 01:15 AM

Bah you need to learn how to read...

Product is a TEC and H2Oblock.

One Thermo Electric Cooler (TEC.)
Liquid Accumulator
Thermal Frame & Cover
CPU Shim
Opening for CPU Temperature Probe
Brass Snap-In-Out & Inlets With 360 Degree Range
Two Universal Motherboard Anchors
Install Manual & Warranty Information
Has semiconductor heat safety measures Built-In

Prices vary based on the power of the TEC which comes in 4 versions $140-185.

If you look at Swiftech H2Oblock with a TEC integrated... it costs $110. Not too outlandish since the bluecooling seems to take condensation etc... into account for a fairly idiot proof setup.

mobuis 06-30-2002 03:08 PM

whats a liquid accumulator? does it get rid of condensation so you don't need to insulate or something?

tazdevl 06-30-2002 04:59 PM

I believe that's what it does. I sent them an email but haven't received a response.

Hallis 07-09-2002 03:58 AM

interesting idea,,, although i dont think there will be any substitute for a DIY job

Lothar5150 07-15-2002 01:37 AM

I'd go with Swiftech. Swiftech products are top shelf and they have a good reputation. Take a look......
Swiftech
http://www.swiftnets.com/assets/imag.../MCW462-UT.gif

Blue Cooling
http://www.bluecooling.com/images/BluePump_large.gif

#Rotor 07-19-2002 05:55 PM

a liquid accumulator...... I think that is a reservoir.... but this is when referring to a block, so I have to imagine that there block has an large relatively empty chamber inside, where the liquid can accumulate, and do nothing for a little while... that block then will also have astronomical flow rate figures....

Lothar5150 07-21-2002 03:56 PM

You might want to read this Blue Cooling Review

Brad 07-22-2002 05:23 AM

looks like crap. If I was ever delusional enough to pay that much for that waterblock I'd have to buy the 85w pelt, and buy my own 226w pelt. I'd save money, and get a free cpu killer ;)

Hallis 07-22-2002 06:41 AM

Yah safe to say that that block is pure shite,,

decodeddiesel 08-05-2002 06:26 PM

yeah, that block is a f****** joke. Anyone who thinks 85 watts is enough for an AMD processor is a moron, anyone who think this design will prevent condensation is also a moron, and anyone who would spend $140 for a water block....well....they would be equally as moronic :rolleyes:

PolakATL 10-04-2002 07:07 PM

Hey i'm thinking about spending $110 on the swifty... but that is a whole nother story. I think the swifty will be the best performing block and tec!!!!

mo 10-04-2002 07:22 PM

I remembered seeing this review regarding them...
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MzI5

pretty lame

shaft01 10-05-2002 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PolakATL
Hey i'm thinking about spending $110 on the swifty... but that is a whole nother story. I think the swifty will be the best performing block and tec!!!!
Dont know if its the BEST but its what I have........and it works damn good....... If you are intrested check out the system here

I had some problems with seating to begin with.......but on the third try I hit the lottery :)

nexxo 11-25-2002 02:01 PM

I'm not an expert on TEC cooling, but I do recognise "fogging" when I read it. The company makes insubstantiated claims, and makes a lot of impressive sounding but vague and meaningless statements even when challenged on very concrete points by the review mentioned above. This causes me to think that they don't even believe themselves that they're making a quality product.

The build quality looks pretty poor, particularly when compared to a Swiftech block. I know what I'd rather pay for.

winewood 11-28-2002 08:42 AM

i dont belive some things....
 
Frankly, the hardocp review looks like the guy got ahold of a prototype and was peeing in someones proverbial pool. No to be a wise guy, but the unit still isn't for sale... and is called in the development phase on www.bluecooling.com, I would say hardocp's representation that this is a finished product is BS. (Escpecially since that review was dated Months ago) Why is hardocp the only one to review the unit??????? Thats no product final release that I have ever heard of. Do they expect everyone to not see something so obvious? It's not even offered for sale yet. I am still searching for another review. I check back every week, but nothing yet. Currently www.dangerden.com has some cool stuff. Where do you guys go for complete setups?
As for 85Watts.. im still new at this. Can't that keep a cpu at room temperature if thats your goal? Besides, doesnt a larger watt TEC need another power supply? To lower the temp to -10, the condensation would put your system at some condensation risk unless you spent some time and MUCH money in moisture control. But I'm still learning.. so... take this for what its worth.. just and observation. I'm still researching my first project. ;)

KnightElite 11-29-2002 02:21 AM

Looking at their design... you can tell it's a piece of crap.

You want the cold on the processor... not being dissipated into the air. Their setup will cause condensation problems without end, since you've got the cold plate "fins" hanging out over the motherboard/video card. As soon as the CPU warms up, you'd have large water droplets falling on your electronics, which is obviously not desirable.

And an 85W TEC is not big enough to be effective on modern CPUs. It would be overloaded by the heat load, and would be extremely ineffective.

winewood 11-29-2002 05:15 AM

I know no company who stays in business selling self defeating devices. Regardless of my talent at judging thermodynamics in pic's, this product can't leak on everything it sits on. Logic tells me that. Effeciency is another issue...

Since I havn't tested one, or know anyone who has in its final state. I would say you would have to be psychic to determine if this unit was efficient with 85, 118, 135, or 225 Watt unless you benchmarked it. It isn't complete yet, so that makes testing it impossible. But, I guess its easier without facts to just say "it's crap". :dome:

I choose to wait for multiple reputable reviews personally.

mobuis 12-08-2002 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lothar5150
You might want to read this Blue Cooling Review
a review from hardocp isn't a review its a hunk of shit that doesn't mean anything but anyway i still think it sucks

waterrat 12-08-2002 07:09 AM

I read that review to and this block is
a piece of crap:D

hara 12-08-2002 08:47 AM

the coldplate is of aluminium, the block is also anodised aluminium.

Need I say more? Read the [H] review

winewood 12-14-2002 12:42 PM

Read the review at your own speed.. but consider the source. Heres some info that Kyle [H] doesn't want you to find out!

http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...&threadid=5213

Oh.. btw.. that was a prototype that they reviewed. The new model has a copper bottom and an aluminum top, per the president of the company... I guess he agrees about the copper! :)

nOv1c3 12-17-2002 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by winewood
Read the review at your own speed.. but consider the source. Heres some info that Kyle [H] doesn't want you to find out!

http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...&threadid=5213

Oh.. btw.. that was a prototype that they reviewed. The new model has a copper bottom and an aluminum top, per the president of the company... I guess he agrees about the copper! :)

Prototype or not ..the thing is still a peace of shit :p


I liked the review but i take everything i read on the net with a grain of salt .....

hara 12-17-2002 11:26 AM

Just read this:

BTMS replaces all Water Blocks. CPU temperature reductions of 10% to 40% are immediate when converting to a Blue Thermal Management System. CPU temperatures may be even lower depending on models utilized and circumstances. We recommend specific models for all AMD and Intel family of products. Please review-testing page for an AMD 1800 and 950 Duron. Controlled CPU temperature performance is improved using our complete Thermal System, which includes a Tank/Pump and Radiator that are specifically designed to operate with BTMS.

BTMS is designed to prevent a CPU from instant heat failure, therefore allowing time to shut down electronics if any part of the cooling system fails. Saves a CPU replacement cost.

Conventional liquid cooling systems DO NOT have fail-safe capability, which causes CPU heat failure in seconds. Only BTMS has semiconductor heat safety measures Built-In.

Temperature probe opening in base of BTMS allows direct CPU contact to measure temperature. A majority of motherboards do not display the correct CPU temperatures.

Anchors are universal motherboard attachments installed around socket area for securing a BTMS. The Anchors allow custom screws for exact pressure applied for maximum thermal contact and performance. Motherboards should NOT have to be removed. Some boards may not be compatible.

BTMS installed in less than 20-minutes. BlueCooling products are manufactured with the highest industrial zero tolerance standards


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