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jaydee 08-21-2005 10:21 PM

New Water Block from AquaExtream (Cooltechnica)
 
I see it is posted on cooltechnica.com so I guess I can post here here now.

http://www.cooltechnica.com/Assets/A...PRO_CPU_WB.htm

Looks very good.

jaydee 08-24-2005 08:00 PM

I got a MP-05 in hand with all 3 nozzels along with a White Water LE (all copper) and a TDX.

Will update on the MP-05 with some pics as soon as I can.

scooterfl 08-24-2005 08:03 PM

Is this block produced by Cooltechnica or are they distributing for an OEM?

jaydee 08-24-2005 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooterfl
Is this block produced by Cooltechnica or are they distributing for an OEM?

Maybe a better question for Bruce to answer.

pHaestus 08-24-2005 09:14 PM

This block is Bruce's design I am almost certain.

jaydee 08-24-2005 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pHaestus
This block is Bruce's design I am almost certain.

It is, thay also produce them from what I understand.

I also noticed the one I got is not the one shown on the site. :) Seems there will be more than one version of this block. :)

pHaestus 08-24-2005 09:21 PM

did you get the XT version?

jaydee 08-24-2005 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pHaestus
did you get the XT version?

Note labled as such. :)

Cathar 08-24-2005 09:40 PM

With the N03 nozzle plate, at first glance it appears to be strikingly familiar in design and principle to an AlphaCool NexXxoS HP Pro crossed with an AlphaCool NexXxoS XP Rev2 base-plate.

Of course, I could be wrong. Just going by what I can see of it.

jaydee 08-24-2005 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cathar
With the N03 nozzle plate, at first glance it appears to be strikingly familiar in design and principle to an AlphaCool NexXxoS HP Pro crossed with an AlphaCool NexXxoS XP Rev2 base-plate.

Of course, I could be wrong. Just going by what I can see of it.

Indeed, count the pins though. The standard MP-05 has 270pins. The one I have has a different number though (higher). The Nexxos XP I belive has 143? Not sure on the Rev2 though.


According to my micrometer the pin area on my version is approx .614" x .816". Each pin is approx .020". they very slightly of course. This block will be restrictive.

Cathar 08-24-2005 10:21 PM

Rev 2 XP has 168 pins. (12 x 14 pin grid array)

The AquaComputer Cuplex XT has 165 pins (13 x 13 pin grid array, minus the 4 corner pins)

Yep - When I saw 270 I was (mistakenly) thinking of the Swiftech MCW600x and its number of pins (281) and thought that applied to the German "twins".

Still - somewhat like a more pinned version of what I said (HP Pro / XT). Better break out the 50 micron micro-strainers for this one - my ~150 micron micro-irrigation strainer struggled to keep the HP Pro I have here clog-free, having to strain the water multiple times.

jaydee 08-24-2005 10:44 PM

Thinking the same thing on the strainer. I just installed one on my test bench loop for such blocks. Someone was going to send me a Cuplex XT but they never got around to it. Looked like a nice block.

Do you have a White Water LE from CoolTechnica? Heavy block but nice.

Jag 08-25-2005 02:25 AM

In my view it's a block that mixes the exterior design of the Storm with the interior design of this Nexxos XT prototype block, announced some time back,(http://www.nokytech.net/actualites/4852.html ) but to my understanding didn't came out to market with this name (Nexxos XT), because in the meantime Aquacomputer launched it's Cuplex XT,taking advantage of some delays.
As you can see the Nexxos XT is a more pinned version of the other variants (HP/XP).
http://www.cooltechnica.com/images/A...RO_BP_250w.jpg
http://yohanng.free.fr/protoalpha.JPG

dacooltech 08-25-2005 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooterfl
Is this block produced by Cooltechnica or are they distributing for an OEM?

It's produced by Cooltechnica :)

dacooltech 08-25-2005 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaydee
Note labled as such. :)

The one that you have is the MP-05 SP version with nickel plated brass top and 300pins on the BP

dacooltech 08-25-2005 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jag
In my view it's a block that mixes the exterior design of the Storm with the interior design of this Nexxos XT prototype block, announced some time back,(http://www.nokytech.net/actualites/4852.html ) but to my understanding didn't came out to market with this name (Nexxos XT), because in the meantime Aquacomputer launched it's Cuplex XT,taking advantage of some delays.
As you can see the Nexxos XT is a more pinned version of the other variants (HP/XP).
http://www.cooltechnica.com/images/A...RO_BP_250w.jpg
http://yohanng.free.fr/protoalpha.JPG

that's very interesting Jag... our SP base plate is still a bit different though.

dacooltech 08-25-2005 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cathar
With the N03 nozzle plate, at first glance it appears to be strikingly familiar in design and principle to an AlphaCool NexXxoS HP Pro crossed with an AlphaCool NexXxoS XP Rev2 base-plate.

Of course, I could be wrong. Just going by what I can see of it.

The overall design of the BP was inspired from Morphling1's block.
http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...ght=morphling1

I've been exploring the possibilities that Morphling1 offered with that block (based on your WW design ofcourse) for quite some time. The micro-pins are inspired mostly from Jaydee's, Volenti's, #Rotor's and Roscal's previous BPs. Also thanks for the single inlet / outlet version of the WW that you sent me long time ago. I tried so many different BP thicknesses, based on the tips that you e-mailed me regarding the WW ages ago, I don't remember the exact count now. pH tested some of the protos back in February but they were quite restrictive. Those BPs were different than the one in the MP-05 now though.

The Jets nozzle idea came from BigBen2K.
http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=6101

The straight threaded barbed fitting with an O-Ring was used by D-Tek on their blocks ~2yrs ago. AFAIK, Danny over at D-Tek is the one using 9/16-18 threaded barb with O-Ring for the 1st time on the Spiral, TC-4, WW etc. The barbs that I'm using on the WW-LE and MP-05 blocks are custom made with an ID of .41" ( 10.5mm ) BTW.

As for the top and USMA design. I changed the design of the USMA for the WW-LE, that I couldn't release before June. I lowered the sides of the new copper WW-LE top, underneath the USMA, simply because the Copper top is ~3x heavier than the AL top. So basically my main concern was reducing weight. Then had to get rid of the sides of the USMA so that it won't interfere with the caps on the motherboards.

BTW, use of Delrin was Jon Fettig (JFettig) 's idea, and he is the one that used Delrin on his blocks for the 1st time AFAIK . So he definitely deserves credit for it.

Anyway, with micro-pins or not, the MP-05 blocks are built around the same principles that was featured in your White Water and other blocks by Pro/Coolers such as #Rotor, BigBen2k, Jaydee, JFettig, Morphling1, Roscal, Volenti ...

You'll be receiving the all 3 versions of the MP-05 blocks (MP-05 Pro, MP-05 Xtreme and MP-05 SP), WW-LE and some other stuff soon Stew.

dacooltech 08-25-2005 03:30 AM

does anyone know where Morpling1 is?
he doesn't seem to post over at pro/forums anymore...

jaydee 08-25-2005 07:18 AM

Cool,

I will have some pics of the SP version when I get home tonight.

scooterfl 08-25-2005 08:14 AM

Thanks for the info guys

ricecrispi 08-25-2005 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dacooltech

You'll be receiving the all 3 versions of the MP-05 blocks (MP-05 Pro, MP-05 Xtreme and MP-05 SP), WW-LE and some other stuff soon Stew.

I noticed you mention 3 versions of mp-05. How are they different from each other?

Ls7corvete 08-25-2005 04:28 PM

Good for them, yet anouther solution to advise when people ask for a good "kit". Assuming they put it in their "kit" builder.

Competition is always good.

dacooltech 08-25-2005 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricecrispi
I noticed you mention 3 versions of mp-05. How are they different from each other?

MP-05 Pro = Delrin Topped w/ N01 Slit Nozzle
BP featuring 270 micro pins

MP-05 Xtreme = Brass Topped w/ N02 X Nozzle
BP featuring 300 micro pins
http://www.cooltechnica.com//images/..._xtrm-320w.jpg

MP-05 SP = Nickel Plated Brass Topped w/ N03 Jets Nozzle
BP featuring 300 micro pins
http://www.cooltechnica.com//images/...05-SP-320w.jpg

jaydee 08-25-2005 08:14 PM

Here are some pics:

http://www.customcooledpc.com/wbimages/MP-05SP/002.jpg
http://www.customcooledpc.com/wbimages/MP-05SP/003.jpg
http://www.customcooledpc.com/wbimages/MP-05SP/004.jpg

jaydee 08-25-2005 08:33 PM

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Why is it when I want to show a pic my site goes down? Bah, they are getting hit by a hurricane were the data center is. Hopefully be back up soon.

maxSaleen 08-25-2005 09:54 PM

Very Nice :D I especially like the nickel plated brass top.

For Bruce (Dacooltech?):
Did you guys consider using multiple accelerator slits (ala WW, I know it only has one) instead of the...what is word... accelerator holes?

My inability to find the proper word here just gave me the idea to start a terminology thread somewhere here on the forums. I know it's off topic, but does anyone else think that would be a good thing?

jaydee 08-25-2005 10:12 PM

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There is 3 nozzel configurations (I have all 3). One is the holes, one is a slit like the WW, and one is a X shape.

Etacovda 08-25-2005 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxSaleen
My inability to find the proper word here just gave me the idea to start a terminology thread somewhere here on the forums. I know it's off topic, but does anyone else think that would be a good thing?

sounds like a good idea to me, would save confusion in the future.

jaydee 08-25-2005 10:29 PM

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I made this base a little over a year and a half ago simply to test my mill. I am kicking myself for not turning it into a block. One thing I am not to sure on (among many others) is how small the pins really need to be. The pins on this base are approx. 1/16" x 1/16". The pins on my Lemon Cu block has 1/8" x 1/8" pins and the pins on my R-Type block were a little less than 1/8". I plan on doing a lot of experimentation on this myself.

I wanted to tripple the pin count in the same area as this base but my mill just isn't up to the accuracy with a endmill. I will be seeking a slit saw attachment now that we see what can be done with one. With the mill I have been building on the side I think I can make some decent blocks with it.... Also have a few other ways of making pins...

Ls7corvete 08-26-2005 12:46 AM

All versions come with a clear plastic accelerator nozzle?

I think some people may not be happy with that, hopefully that is not the case. Or will there not be problems? Not that I have a problem with the clear plastics but others may.


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