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#Rotor 02-15-2003 03:46 PM

Lets see some frost!!!!
 
yip, that's it. show us the frost.
Pictures.... big and detailed, small and blurry... whatever,

it's all welcome.
No need for specs, just for some nice viewing.... and some OOOOOOOO's and AAAAAAAA's

here is my latest...
http://3rotor.homelinux.com/SCM-BB/o...1274.thumb.jpghttp://3rotor.homelinux.com/SCM-BB/o...1276.thumb.jpg

:D

RoboTech 02-16-2003 08:42 PM

OK, you asked for it... :)

http://www.leesspace.com/images/Pelt..._block_top.jpg

http://www.leesspace.com/images/Pelt...block_side.jpg

http://www.leesspace.com/images/Pelt...waterblock.jpg

http://www.leesspace.com/images/Pelt...iller_test.jpg

EdDiE 02-16-2003 08:56 PM

Nice! :drool:

So this is your water chiller?

And what size peltier are you using?

I'm asking because I'm probably going to do something like this soon.

Thanks.

RoboTech 02-16-2003 10:44 PM

Yeah, that was the bench testing... :)

(2) 172 watt (24V-11.3A max) 40mm Pelts
(2) S-320-24 PSUs
(2) Maze2 waterblocks
(2) E-1250 pumps (hot and cold side)
(2) BIE radiators in parallel
(2) 120mm Panaflo M1A fans
Maze3 waterblock

with 22 deg C ambient air
0 deg C idle (CPU block)
11 deg C full load (60 watts)

EdDiE 02-16-2003 11:38 PM

And that is whith no peltiers on the CPU?

Woudn't you get way below zero if you could cool the pelts with chilled water?

I was thinking I would do this with one 226W. pelt on the CPU and one ... or two 226 watters chillin the water.

I would also be using 2 Black Ice Extremes with 2 Ehiem 1250.

I was thinking of getting a aluminum block made specially for this ... would copper make a big difference for this?

Thanks, nice temps too ...

RoboTech 02-17-2003 09:26 AM

Hey EdDie,

I did this mostly as an experiment... :) It's a lot of equipment and $$$ for what you get. Pelt chillers just aren't very efficient IMHO. You get a lot more bang (cooling) for your buck by mounting the Pelt onto the CPU (with a cold plate) and watercooling the hot side.

Yes, if I was to cool the hot side of the Pelts with chill water then the cold side would go well below freezing.

In final form, two auto heater core radiators with shrouds are a better choice (less expensive and greater surface area) than the two BIE rads I used.

As I'm sure you already know, copper is much better at conducting heat than aluminum - so "better" yes. Enough "better" to offset the cost and hassle of machining... can't answer that for you. That's the main reason I went with two commercial waterblocks for the Pelt sandwich.

Good luck,

#Rotor 02-17-2003 05:49 PM

way below zero...... you might.....

I can maintain this with the TEC hooked up to the systems 12v rail.

and chilled liquid....

http://3rotor.homelinux.com/SCM-BB/o...1418.thumb.jpg

this is full load Xp1800+ at 2000+ (motherboard max)

temp probe is underneath the CPU.

no insulation what so ever........ so ya, properly insulated and having the TEC on say 15v to 18v adjustable, should get -15ºC if not colder.... full load

bikr 02-17-2003 05:51 PM

http://www.cpufailure.com/new/bong/4.jpg

http://www.cpufailure.com/new/bong/5.jpg

KnightElite 02-23-2003 02:19 AM

http://homepage.usask.ca/~kdh349/TEC-frost.jpg

Nice and frosty on some of those things :D.

#Rotor 02-24-2003 08:03 PM

hey NightElite.... lookin good.....



whats the coldest that swifty setup can get you, just running it open air, like that?

psychofunk 02-27-2003 09:54 PM

WOW, I'm gettin chilly. I have heard but never seen a pelt in action. I'm new to wawa but as soon as get some time on that I'll be checkin you guys out.:drool:

KnightElite 02-28-2003 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by #Rotor
hey NightElite.... lookin good.....



whats the coldest that swifty setup can get you, just running it open air, like that?

Thanks. Not entirely sure, since I didn't have very good contact between my temperature probe and the TEC. I can tell you that I've gotten -1ºC CPU temperatures as measured in the BIOS from the in-socket thermister though, so I imagine it can get pretty cold ;).

RoboTech 03-02-2003 06:41 PM

Gettin' frosty with the MCW462-UHT
 
Quote:

Originally posted by #Rotor
whats the coldest that swifty setup can get you, just running it open air, like that?
Hey #Rotor,

http://www.leesspace.com/images/MCW462_frosty.jpg

My MCW462-UHT will do -32 deg C @ 12 VDC (no load - other than ambient losses)... :)
E-1250, D-Tek core, (2) Delta 120mm 152 CFM push/pull, 18 deg C amb air, 23 deg C water
1/16" hole x 1.25 dp into center of CP with Type K thermocouple (+/- 0.1 deg. C accuracy)

KnightElite 03-03-2003 12:44 AM

Nice frost Robotech. I'm sure my temps were pretty similar then, since my system is almost identical to yours except for having larger radiators.

#Rotor 03-06-2003 10:11 PM

WOW .....

So those 220W peltiers seem to work pretty damn well at 12 v... I had to chill this Drift0.8 on 12v down to a liquid temp of +1ºC to get that -31 reading... ok well it was with a massive open copper block on the cold side too, fully exposed to 22ºC ambient... Sweeeooo.. I feel better again... :D allmost got a little bit worried there.... :rolleyes:

SparkedFire 04-18-2003 07:09 AM

What kind of chips are you running to recieve that -42, -31 reading?:drool:

BrianH 04-18-2003 03:28 PM

Quote:

What kind of chips are you running to recieve that -42, -31 reading?
They are not running any chips yet. These are no load results (ie no cpu attached).

Just seeing how low they can get thier TEC's to.

It is fun to watch through........

RoboTech 05-22-2003 09:10 PM

Dually frost...
 
More frosty goodness... :)

http://www.leesspace.com/images/Web_...W50_frost2.jpg

As before, these are no-load temperatures. MCW462-UHT and MCW50-T in parallel, E-1250, single D-Tek heatercore and two Delta 120 mm SHEs. 20 deg C ambient air, 28 deg C water, Both TECs @ 12 VDC The blue "wires" are thermocouple leads (thermocouple down in a drilled hole in each cold plate).

]JR[ 06-03-2003 04:42 AM

Air cooled full power 172watter anyone?

http://www.phjrw.34sp.com/ac172a.jpg
http://www.phjrw.34sp.com/ac172b.jpg
http://www.phjrw.34sp.com/ac172c.jpg

Alpha8045 + 2x380cfm toriodal fans tho :D Just to prove a point that it is possible, albeit impractical.

]JR[

hara 06-03-2003 05:08 AM

Why did you use an AL coldplate? Or is that copper coated with something? Is the setup noisy?

Khledar 06-03-2003 06:45 AM

:drool:

OOOOOOoooo



....



:drool:


.....

AAaaaahhhhh



:drool:

Mercury 06-05-2003 01:03 AM

lol, that would work, until the whole thing snapped off a 5 inch chunk of your mobo :D

PoLicE 06-23-2003 02:10 AM

First block, first peltier, first frost :)

48 Watt only.

http://mrbars.kolayweb.com/poltier/2

eXtenz 07-04-2003 04:49 AM

i didnt have a thermal probe or anything to measure water temps / cold plate temps or anything, but i can tell you my tongue hurt for awhile? why? just cause i felt like licking it even tho i knew i shouldnt have....

http://www.pcbruisers.com/forumpics/peltier.jpg

and this is with it on the 1700+ @ 2600MHZ

http://www.pcbruisers.com/forumpics/DSCN1337.jpg

we have had a farkin runin with bad motherboards so we could only run in bios, since we have had 3 baords now with bad ide connectors... bargh..long story but proven...

bios temps 9C @ 2600, 1.71v

220w peltier.. maze3-1

and yes we did insulate the whole block, had it all wraped up when on the board..that pic was when we first hooked it up, wanted to see everything and make sure all was well
=]
given i had to guess, -30 to -35C on cold plate but dont hold me to it...

Jeff 07-04-2003 09:23 PM

Here's a different twist...
http://www.adventurevision.com/somep.../Chiller06.jpg

That's the compressor for the chiller that helps cool the water for my pelt. I haven't had a chance to see what kind of frost forms on the pelt itself, but I'd assume it'd be a pretty good amount. ;)


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