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Unread 07-18-2004, 07:00 PM   #109
Althornin
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Houston, TX, USA
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Originally Posted by IMOG
Strawman - Thats a perspective no one supported.

Those of us who think newbs should be helped and not just told to search, think that a quote/link should be presented in combination with telling them something along the lines of - "they don't have to wait for answers when they search for it themselves".

Atleast I didn't see anywhere that someone posted saying that people should fully respond to repetitive/n00b posts, and I wanted to make it clear that what you stated appears as though it is a misrepresentation of points being discussed. No one said the wheel should be reinvented - what it boiled down to was positively reinforcing members to do the work themselves, or negatively reinforcing members to do the work themselves.

OCF prefers the positive reinforcement route. ProC prefers the negative reinforcement route.
Positive reinforcement?
The only thing you are reinforcing is the idea that the noobs dont NEED to look, dont NEED to search, dont NEED to learn.
You are building a population of fools who cannot figure anything out for themselves!
You are positively reinforcing ignorance, poor habits, and you having to repost old information!
Those noobs that you "help" are worse off after your help than if you'd have given them tough love.
You don't train a puppy to not piss on the rug by putting a bowl under him every time he takes a leak. You puinish him and teach him what he needs to do.

your methods create an unending supply of questions, and an unending supply of people who need them answered because they've been TRAINED to NOT look it up for themselves!
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