Might be the cpu itself. Not all cpus are built the same even if they are cut from the same waffle.
On water I got 2.5 on my newcastle, 2.6 on my Venice REV.E., and my 64 mobile does 2.8 on water. All about 200 mhz over Zalman Cnps 7000 air setup.
The K8 cpus were holding me back. My mushkin ram went 2-2-2-7 at 265 on my DFI sli-dr, the best board for overclocking.
Pretty shitty overclockers compared to my Barton 2600 that got 2.2 ghz on air and 2.5 ghz on water and my t-bred 1700 that got up to a 2400 speeds
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