Hardocp does Innovatek

stoff · 12-04-2002, 02:30 PM

[H]ardocp have a test of Innovatek's gear (as you know they didn't include them in they WB roundup).

They didn't like Innovatek's GPU/chipset cooler at all:

Quote:

Performance of these blocks were far below average, producing temps barely better than stock air cooling (135°F). Once we took the block apart, we noticed that the water was not channeled in anyway from point A (inlet) to point B (outlet). The water simply washed across the flat surface.

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MzkzLDI=

Interesting, as Joe Citarella seems to like it over at overclockers:

http://www.overclockers.com/articles581/

I'm about to set up a watersystem with this GPU-cooler, so I was a bit horrified by the remarks by [H]ardocp. But maybe I shouldn't be?

Regards, stoff

pHaestus · 12-04-2002, 02:37 PM

i like my Innovatek GPU block. It keeps my GF3 about 10C cooler than the Crystal Orb did at 12V, and about 15C cooler than the Crystal Orb with fan undervolted to 7V (loud damn thing). Vid card GPU temp measured from Leadtek's software that supposedly takes internal temp. I can't comment on the HardOCP review as I have them blocked both at work and home. It is a good general rule to assume that they are always correct, as JoeC will not kick your ass. Steve, of course, will (raaawr)

mfpmax · 12-04-2002, 02:48 PM

I liked looking at the pictures...

I think thats all they got for me...a nice camera...

bigben2k · 12-04-2002, 02:58 PM

I found a useful bit of info:
"During the manufacturing process, the core itself is pressed into the anodized block and bonded, meaning once the core is in, it isn’t coming out."

I had always wondered what that inner part looked like.

Joe · 12-04-2002, 03:42 PM

Guessing Innovatek's check must have not made it to Steve in time...

Also if you are stuck wondering "wow steve didn’t like it and Joe did? who must be right???" Well there’s only 2 things for sure... steve will kick your ass - cause he’s all about kicking your ass!, and JoeC knows a SHITLOAD more about testing than Steve could even comprehend.

Me.. I personally trust those who are at least literate in testing methodology and have the concept of cooling understood

stoff · 12-04-2002, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe
Also if you are stuck wondering "wow steve didn’t like it and Joe did? who must be right???" Well there’s only 2 things for sure... steve will kick your ass - cause he’s all about kicking your ass!, and JoeC knows a SHITLOAD more about testing than Steve could even comprehend.

Thanks. I'm now reassured that I didn't make an idiot of myself by buying it!

I cant wait until I get the time to set my watercooling system up.

Regards, stoff

MadDogMe · 12-05-2002, 03:23 AM

Hmmm?, I've never heard anything but good about Innovatech gear, especialy their blocks! (maybe not their reservoir!

), I guess they're not too hot on backsheesh* though

...

*Oriental for 'Big Flashee Banner'...

Brad · 12-05-2002, 03:27 AM

steve won't kick your arse, he just likes playing with it, and your arse moustache

KnightElite · 12-06-2002, 02:48 AM

Interesting review.... if you'll note, he definitely does better than he did on his block round up in terms of defining the methodology used and showing the entire system. Perhaps Steve learned something from the criticism he got on his last review.....

MadDogMe · 12-06-2002, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Perhaps Steve learned something from the criticism he got on his last review.....

Don't be stupid!, he thought of it himself!, after long and [H]ard contemplation (of the *north~pole), he probably put in his methodigy in his last Intel~igent 'review' as well...,
but it got 'corrected' at 3 in the morning by a 'p[H]otos[H]op [H]acker'!!

...

* Inuit fertility rite

gmat · 12-06-2002, 11:01 AM

Innovatek hardware is, objectively, top notch.
What i don't like is their marketing policy (lots of hype, even if their hardware is worth it), and their prices (way too high). Oh and aluminium mixed with copper, too.
Overall you won't be disappointed with your block.

(edit) huh, [H] ? who's that ? i don't read underage rated stuff

pHaestus · 12-06-2002, 11:31 AM

Well for what it's worth it is a lot more straightforward to test a complete kit: Set it up according to instructions and then monitor how it performs. The burden of monitoring and adjusting flow rate and other testing variables would presumably far on the mfgr prior to assembling a "kit".

I find the whole "I WILL KICK YOUR ASS" thing funny still, but am going to try and refrain from making such comments publicly in the future. It seems like sour grapes or just whining after a certain point, which isn't my intention at all. Since Steve IS being somewhat prolific at testing w/c components, he should consider buying Innovatek's testing simulator. It costs a few hundred dollars, but H|OCP has the funds...

12-04-2002, 02:48 PM	#3
mfpmax Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Rockledge,FL,US Posts: 731	I liked looking at the pictures... I think thats all they got for me...a nice camera... __________________ My old and retired watercooling setup. Watercooled K6-2 450 at 600 Also Retired - Watercooling an XP1800@1782MHz

12-04-2002, 02:58 PM	#4
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	I found a useful bit of info: "During the manufacturing process, the core itself is pressed into the anodized block and bonded, meaning once the core is in, it isn’t coming out." I had always wondered what that inner part looked like. __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

12-04-2002, 03:42 PM	#5
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Guessing Innovatek's check must have not made it to Steve in time... Also if you are stuck wondering "wow steve didn’t like it and Joe did? who must be right???" Well there’s only 2 things for sure... steve will kick your ass - cause he’s all about kicking your ass!, and JoeC knows a SHITLOAD more about testing than Steve could even comprehend. Me.. I personally trust those who are at least literate in testing methodology and have the concept of cooling understood __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

12-05-2002, 03:27 AM	#8
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	steve won't kick your arse, he just likes playing with it, and your arse moustache __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

12-06-2002, 02:48 AM	#9
KnightElite Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Posts: 294	Interesting review.... if you'll note, he definitely does better than he did on his block round up in terms of defining the methodology used and showing the entire system. Perhaps Steve learned something from the criticism he got on his last review..... __________________ Can anyone else here say that they have a watercooled monster that's 45" tall?

12-04-2002, 02:37 PM	#2
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	i like my Innovatek GPU block. It keeps my GF3 about 10C cooler than the Crystal Orb did at 12V, and about 15C cooler than the Crystal Orb with fan undervolted to 7V (loud damn thing). Vid card GPU temp measured from Leadtek's software that supposedly takes internal temp. I can't comment on the HardOCP review as I have them blocked both at work and home. It is a good general rule to assume that they are always correct, as JoeC will not kick your ass. Steve, of course, will (raaawr)

12-05-2002, 03:23 AM	#7
MadDogMe Thermophile Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Just shut up ;) ... Posts: 1,068	Hmmm?, I've never heard anything but good about Innovatech gear, especialy their blocks! (maybe not their reservoir! ), I guess they're not too hot on backsheesh* though ... Oriental for 'Big Flashee Banner'*...

12-06-2002, 11:01 AM	#11
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	Innovatek hardware is, objectively, top notch. What i don't like is their marketing policy (lots of hype, even if their hardware is worth it), and their prices (way too high). Oh and aluminium mixed with copper, too. Overall you won't be disappointed with your block. (edit) huh, [H] ? who's that ? i don't read underage rated stuff

12-06-2002, 11:31 AM	#12
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Well for what it's worth it is a lot more straightforward to test a complete kit: Set it up according to instructions and then monitor how it performs. The burden of monitoring and adjusting flow rate and other testing variables would presumably far on the mfgr prior to assembling a "kit". I find the whole "I WILL KICK YOUR ASS" thing funny still, but am going to try and refrain from making such comments publicly in the future. It seems like sour grapes or just whining after a certain point, which isn't my intention at all. Since Steve IS being somewhat prolific at testing w/c components, he should consider buying Innovatek's testing simulator. It costs a few hundred dollars, but H\|OCP has the funds...

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