A VC for SolidWorks?

[bigben2k]

I suck at eBay!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5107440650
(see bid history)

Got outbid for a really, really nice VC by $0.05 !!!

[jaydee]

What are you going to be using Solid Works for? I got a GF440MX ($45) and it works great with SW2003. Certainly good enough for water blocks.

[BillA]

Originally Posted by bigben2k

I suck at eBay!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5107440650
(see bid history)

Got outbid for a really, really nice VC by $0.05 !!!

agreed

use Cricket Jr, bid only once, 6 sec before closing (ck your refresh rate)
bid your max., don't bother trying to be clever, . . . .
if you have regrets it means you did not bid your max, more fool you

I do not win every bid, but I do win every one I NEED to by bidding a grand, or more if warranted
when I lose I never have a tear, the other fellow was willing to pay more than I

jd
I may have an interest in that card, . . .

[bigben2k]

Block design, among other things! (I still have to send Roscal a reviewed version of Radius (with the inlet nozzle this time!) for another round of flow analysis)

I've got so many projects going on right now, just waiting for me to have SW up and running, so I can visualize what the heck I'm doing...

I suppose I could just use an MX440, but I'd like to tweak a bit more performance out of this PC. Then I can update my sig (again!) I'll be overclocking an AMD 2500+ to 400 FSB, with my Cascade SS, and push it as high as it'll go.

The PSU array is holding me back right now, I really have to get on it. Otherwise the copper for the PSUs, HDD blocks, and heat die have arrived.


edit: nice link, thanks Bill.

[jaydee]

Originally Posted by unregistered

jd
I may have an interest in that card, . . .

Serious? The number I posted is what I paid for it from Newegg. If you want it let me know and I will send it to you. It is a Leadtek 64mb but the link to their site is no more. Probably discontinued. Only thing I did to it was remove the stock plastic pind holding the HS/fan on and replaced them with steel screws and used arctic silver. Had a WB on it for a while but found it to be usless.

[BillA]

and I can't find an image of it
does it have dual outputs ? if so, I want it

[jaydee]

Originally Posted by unregistered

and I can't find an image of it
does it have dual outputs ? if so, I want it

Just a standard VGA output and a S-Video out.

[BillA]

bah
s-Video won't work for me
have to pass

[jaydee]

Originally Posted by unregistered

bah
s-Video won't work for me
have to pass

I hear that. I don't even own anything that S-Video will plug into... Need a new TV!

[Etacovda]

iirc theres a gainward TI4200 with dual DVI outputs which may suit your needs BillA;

Should be cheap enough to pick up, and theres software/hardware mods for turning them into quattro's cheaply/free if you look about... im sure theres links to that in this thread actually, i havent looked over it.

My SERIOUS recommendation to anyone using solidworks (in a professional manner, of course )

In my course of study, we had an upgrade during the course from 2001 plus to 2003; If its possible to have two licences, use 2001 plus or 2001 standard to design the blocks;

Use 2003 for outputting for CNC etc

2001 plus is WAY more efficient for the design process; its much faster with ANY graphics card (i could do waterblocks on 2001plus with a gf2 mx card) but even with my Ti on 2003 its lagging way more, whilst 2001 is completely smooth.
In saying that, i havent tweaked 2003 that much; im not sure what you can 'turn off' to improve performance. I'll have a play now actually.

[BalefireX]

It appears that people here
http://www.rojakpot.com/default.aspx...ar1=105&var2=0
have successfully flashed a Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB to a FireGL X2-128 using a hacked BIOS (there is no real FireGL X2 with 128MB memory, only 256, but the core is identical)

Seems like a reasonably good way to get a $600+ card for $200 if you are willing to play with BIOS flashing, the only thing you don't get is Dual DVI (the 9800 pro has one DVI and one VGA)

[Etacovda]

A simple solid model (quite a few faces, >200 at any rate) and i get no lag in either shaded, hidden lines or wireframe; Ti4200, 2500+, 1024 of ddr ram; this is with 2003.

[BillA]

that sure is a crappy display on my monitor
4809 bites, no wonder ? or my present card ?
how good is that image supposed to be ?

[Etacovda]

Crap. I didnt want quality, just upload speeds. New Zealand 'broadband' isn't too flash

This is at 1280x1024 on my monitor, at any rate.

[Etacovda]

There ya go, high quality and rendered, for the sake of it... (ignore my shitty solidmodel please, look at the faces )

[BillA]

lol
I would never have suspected from the line dwg
the bypasses are too big, center too fine - fwiw

[Etacovda]

haha, classic; its the block in my avatar, incidentally

Its a 1/2" barb design with a center washer 'jet plate' (ie, washer soldered on, dremeled straight cut) with 3mm holes connected with roughly 1mm channels; extremely similar to the lumpy channel, but only after i saw pH's review of it that i knew; I didnt think the bypasses could be 'too big'? in saying that, this is performing differently to my old design (this ones better at lower flows, but levels off faster), but i attributed that to my thicker base plate (x2 thickness)

I'll stop before this gets into a discussion about block design... HOWEVER, ive run heaps more complicated solidmodels on way worse hardware than this, to get back OT; I dont know why everyone thinks you need a 1000$ card to run a programme like solidworks :shrug:

Something like http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...108696089&rd=1
work?

[bigben2k]

A ti-4200 sounds fine, but I'm looking for that extra bit that's going to tie in nicely with the rest of the puter. I'm guessing that the X1, along with an AMD 2500+ oc'd to 400 FSB on an Asus A7N8X-deluxe E, would be a nicely matched set.

I would prefer using an actual OpenGL card, as I plan to use SolidWorks extensively. I would also prefer using something that SolidWorks has confirmed works right, because I really don't want to deal with problems, or do without some feature without my knowing.

As it stands, a 4200 is flagged yellow (Passed with limitations. These are listed in the notes field) and the notes are not accessible

[BillA]

Originally Posted by Etacovda

haha, classic; its the block in my avatar, incidentally

Its a 1/2" barb design with a center washer 'jet plate' (ie, washer soldered on, dremeled straight cut) with 3mm holes connected with roughly 1mm channels; extremely similar to the lumpy channel, but only after i saw pH's review of it that i knew; I didnt think the bypasses could be 'too big'? in saying that, this is performing differently to my old design (this ones better at lower flows, but levels off faster), but i attributed that to my thicker base plate (x2 thickness)

I'll stop before this gets into a discussion about block design... HOWEVER, ive run heaps more complicated solidmodels on way worse hardware than this, to get back OT; I dont know why everyone thinks you need a 1000$ card to run a programme like solidworks :shrug:

Something like http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...108696089&rd=1
work?

no idea it had a plate, just an off-the-cuff comment - please ignore
(I do not normally post re wb design)

right price on that card, I'll take a flyer

[Etacovda]

Originally Posted by bigben2k

A ti-4200 sounds fine, but I'm looking for that extra bit that's going to tie in nicely with the rest of the puter. I'm guessing that the X1, along with an AMD 2500+ oc'd to 400 FSB on an Asus A7N8X-deluxe E, would be a nicely matched set.

I would prefer using an actual OpenGL card, as I plan to use SolidWorks extensively. I would also prefer using something that SolidWorks has confirmed works right, because I really don't want to deal with problems, or do without some feature without my knowing.

As it stands, a 4200 is flagged yellow (Passed with limitations. These are listed in the notes field) and the notes are not accessible

The old notes were about redraw errors whilst zoomed in; and multiple windows open at the same time (although, ive never found this to happen to me);
Fair enough too ben; Ive got two pc's, so my next upgrade will be purely for gaming, and this Ti4200 will go in the 1700+ @2.1ghz for my solidworks stuff, if the 9800pro spits the dummy on solidworks.

BillA - No worries; the card seems to work really well for me I'm using windows XP, SP2 beta, with the 45.23 detonators - its important which dets you use, thats what makes the difference to the card running properly or not, ive found; I only imagine that the people at solidworks used the newest drivers available (which i have done) and experienced the errors they say (lines dissapearing when zoomed in, etc)

[joesgarage11]

Fwiw, Ben I've got an ATI 9600 Pro 256meg I bought mostly for gaming. I use it with Solidworks 2004 and one of the recent drivers did fix the disappearing dimensions issue.

I don't do any real large assemblies, but the 9600 runs almost perfectly with SW. Almost...The one problem (feature?) happens when I move a drawing view. During the move, the border of the drawing view leaves tracers, multiple borders that follow the drag path. They disappear when I stop dragging. Minor annoyance more than anything.

My computer with the 9600 is down at the moment, I'll try the latest drivers when I get it working and see if the problem has been fixed.

[bigben2k]

Thanks for the tips guys!

[leejsmith]

hope i am not too late with this ben but there is a link at ocau that might help you out

http://www.rojakpot.com/showarticle....tno=105&pgno=0

it gives you a list of ati cards that can be modded to fire gl cards

[bigben2k]

Late by one day...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5114405208

...but thanks!