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Unread 10-04-2004, 08:53 PM   #1
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Default Can the MCW6002A w/step base fit the K8 socket

Just like the tiltle, can it fit K8 with a SK8-kit from Swiftech? I guess the only issue is too much force spring, so is it necessary to replace another spring?
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Unread 10-04-2004, 11:23 PM   #2
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Swiftech says no, you need the flat base block.

http://www.swiftnets.com/products/mcw6002.asp
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Unread 10-04-2004, 11:47 PM   #3
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thats terrible.
surely theres a way, i just can't see why not. the core doesnt touch the stepped part does it?
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Unread 10-05-2004, 09:32 AM   #4
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The only diff between the stepped one and non-stepped one should be the thickness of the waterblock, diff thickness and the same spring results in the diff spring force, the stepped base has a little thicker, so when applying a SK-8 kit it should add the pressure to the block,then to the core. But with the protection of the IHS of K8, it should be safe. Or we can replace another softer spring applying same force. All of above is only guess, there must be someone have experience on it. Who would give me an answer?
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Unread 10-05-2004, 10:07 AM   #5
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Swiftech wbs and hsfs cover the entire IHS, by design
all total bp thicknesses are the same
compatibility/upgradability of the 6000 series are given on the site

if something is incorrect please DO let us know (via the HELP e-mail addy)
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Unread 10-05-2004, 12:02 PM   #6
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Swiftech wbs and hsfs cover the entire IHS, by design
all total bp thicknesses are the same
compatibility/upgradability of the 6000 series are given on the site

if something is incorrect please DO let us know (via the HELP e-mail addy)
Bill so you mean sk-8 kit cann't change 6002A to a K8 platform? Actually I am using a 6002A, just wonder its future on a K8? thz in advance!
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Unread 10-05-2004, 12:12 PM   #7
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all on the site: www.swiftnets.com
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Unread 10-05-2004, 12:16 PM   #8
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As a wild guess I would say that because of the heat spreader size on the A64 CPUs the 6002A block with the step won't make full contact with the spreader because of the missing area caused by the step.
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Unread 10-05-2004, 01:44 PM   #9
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As a wild guess I would say that because of the heat spreader size on the A64 CPUs the 6002A block with the step won't make full contact with the spreader because of the missing area caused by the step.
that sounds good if your guess is right! Although the IHS exceed the coverage of the base of 6002A, the actual die area does not.
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Unread 10-05-2004, 02:05 PM   #10
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What about A64-m? No IHS, no prob?
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Unread 10-05-2004, 02:07 PM   #11
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ya got me, don't know the answer to that one

Gabe will sort through this when he is back next week
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Unread 10-05-2004, 02:51 PM   #12
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that sounds good if your guess is right! Although the IHS exceed the coverage of the base of 6002A, the actual die area does not.
Well, from the measurements and info from AMDs web site and Swiftechs site, the diagram is fairly close given that the water block is centered on the A64 where is off center on the XP. I don't have a A64 to try it out but I do have the 6002A. I wish the 6002A did fit on the A64 as I'm upgrading soon and really don't feel like buying a new block.
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Unread 10-05-2004, 06:52 PM   #13
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I'm a believer.
of course it has to be done and photographed for proof...but the way I see it, a mobile chip would not suffer from mal-contact between the die and wb base. Not only that though, I believe that since the IHS on regular chip a64 chips, is highly exsagerated for protective purposes and not cooling ability - having 1mm along the side of the IHS not in contact with the wb base would hardly be detrimental.
correct me if I'm wrong. I'm just going by application of the p4 heatspreader..i believe that the heat is centralized, and hardly even gets to the outer edges of the IHS.
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Unread 10-05-2004, 06:59 PM   #14
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Swiftech wbs and hsfs cover the entire IHS, by design
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that is the position
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Unread 10-05-2004, 07:04 PM   #15
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understandable, I can easily see why it would not be officially endorsed.
though i still think it would work for someone inclined enough to try.
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