He lives!

[Cathar]

Originally Posted by HammerSandwich

After reading this, I expected worse. Basically, anything better than an Eheim does the trick.

Comparison flow-rate vs pump graph of the XP vs the MCW6000 to demonstrate the flow-rate thing more clearly:

[HammerSandwich]

Yeah, I'd compared it to the graph in the G5 review, where the difference is somewhat less.

[Les]

Originally Posted by pHaestus

I am hesitant to post the preliminary results as I have NO idea how much force is applied with the allen bolt. My best guess is "more than I apply on the 4 hole wb tests" because the first mount I had the block a little bit off center and got horrible temps. I am pretty sure I cranked down a bit more than is normal the second time. But yea on the dT vs flow rate curve the NexXoS XP is a very impressive block.

I should be able to post results tomorrow

Perhaps interestingly Incoherent's C/Ws for wbs are expected to be mounting pressure independent.

[pHaestus]

Wouldn't that require 2 temp probe holes drilled in every wb bp though? Even 1 hole drilled in a bp like a cascade or WW or Storm would be pretty difficult to manage.

[Les]

Just indicating a possible virtue of the Flux-Block as heat-source .
Not suggesting adoption when using a cpu as a heat-source.

[pHaestus]

I am currently testing the last block I'll run on a CPU. I hope so, anyway. I am terribly conflicted on this because I think that mounting issues and secondary effects are really important. With several hardware failures and a continuous progression of new CPU types though I don't think this sort of testing is convenient or particularly relevant any more.

[pHaestus]

http://phaestus.procooling.com/temp/...ool-prelim.jpg

Preliminary data. Block is very good but also very restrictive. I will finish this review either tonight late or tomorrow.

[Cathar]

Originally Posted by pHaestus

http://phaestus.procooling.com/temp/...ool-prelim.jpg

Preliminary data. Block is very good but also very restrictive. I will finish this review either tonight late or tomorrow.

Having assessed the same block myself I wholeheartedly agree with those results.

On a pure flow vs performance basis it is extremely impressive, but its level of flow resistance pegs that impressiveness back in real world use. In real-world pumping power vs performance tests I personally found it to slot in about bang on mid-way between a Cascade and a Cascade SS pretty much right across my pumping power test range.

Definitely an impressive block though. Something for the main-stream manufacturers to keep on eye on because it does outperform most any commercial US-manufactured block across a broad range of pumping powers.

It also pretty much dismisses the whole high-flow vs low-flow myth too. Having had tested it myself I knew that was the case, but had kept my mouth largely shut on the matter until it was independently tested.

[brucoman]

Originally Posted by nikhsub1

On that chart the RD-30 would be what, about 9.5lpm or so? On a side note, once the RD-30 is restricted (I only ran it with 2M tubing) it gets much quieter, I artificially restricted the outlet by pinching the tubing, whoooosh noise is gone when doing so. Will see when it is in the loop.

Am very excited about getting the new pump and G5 in the rig

my RD-30 is whisper quiet with the 2 Storm's/2-342 rad at 24v, drawing only 0.3 amps is odd....

[pHaestus]

Cathar:
Was thinking I'd send it to Bill to play with when I was done with it (if he's interested). Is that ok?

[Cathar]

Originally Posted by pHaestus

Cathar:
Was thinking I'd send it to Bill to play with when I was done with it (if he's interested). Is that ok?

I personally have no problem with that at all. However it may be courtesy to fire an email off to Alphacool (Tanner the name of the guy whom I was talking to from memory). He was happy to provide to Procooling by way of me, but may have something to say about a test block finding its way into competition hands free of charge.

[pHaestus]

Could you PM or e-mail me the contact address? I need to get a little "design/goal/marketing" blurb for this block too for the review.

[Cathar]

Originally Posted by pHaestus

Could you PM or e-mail me the contact address? I need to get a little "design/goal/marketing" blurb for this block too for the review.

Done. Taner is his name. Nice guy once we got past the initial unpleasantness resulting from that old thread.

[jaydee]

Originally Posted by pHaestus

http://phaestus.procooling.com/temp/...ool-prelim.jpg

Preliminary data. Block is very good but also very restrictive. I will finish this review either tonight late or tomorrow.

Very good.

[jaydee]

Originally Posted by pHaestus

Hi guys!
Figured out something potentially very useful yesterday. My Epox 8K3A+ isn't water damaged; it has leaky caps! The 4 nearest the power regulation area are bulging and have a little dried brown juice on the top. I noticed this because the replacement 8K3A+ someone sent me has THE SAME PROBLEM. I haven't yet booted the new board, but I am pretty sure I can salvage the old 8K3A with some new caps. KnightElite has a socketA mobo graveyard at his house I think; gonna try to get 8 decent caps from his Abit boards.

I built a comp for my daughter a while back with one of my Epox 8K7A's. About a month ago I was getting complaints the thing would lock up and while doing so they could hear a high pitch squeal. I got the comp today and took the side cover off to find whats in the attached pic. I am now thinking the last 2 8K7A's I had that mysteriously died were from the same problem.....

This board will work fine until Paint Shop Pro is loaded and the CPU starts to get loaded up then the squeal and then the freeze up... Got to be the caps? I am going to replace them from one of the Abit or Asus boards I got laying around.


This bothers me because they were supposed to have this bad cap problem sorted out long before the 8K7A's were released. Obviously not and the 8K3A+ you got there is a good year newer... Bah...

[pHaestus]

Lots of new data posted yesterday and today throughout forums. Expect 2-3 more reviews this week