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Unread 07-26-2006, 07:26 PM   #101
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Fan controller?
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Unread 07-26-2006, 09:26 PM   #102
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Nope, it's a plug-bus. Or rather one half mounts on the edge of the motherboard tray, the other to the case.
You connect the motherboard, pump, fans, and lights to the tray half with standard cable extensions, then connect the power supply, fan controller, switches, etcetera to the case half. It makes/disconnects all of the connections at the same time (including SATA which will be a seperate part that won't require a PCB).
The end effect is I can remove or install the whole motherboard tray without having to unplug a single cable. As a safe-guard two small solenoids will prevent the tray from being removed while the machine is turned on.

This is my first original PCB design and I've been working on it and learning how to design/make them since September of last year.
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Unread 07-28-2006, 02:55 PM   #103
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Ah! I can see that coming in handy!
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Unread 08-02-2006, 07:19 PM   #104
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Got the block today. Will be getting the bench tuned up and start testing things this weekend.
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Unread 08-05-2006, 11:06 PM   #105
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Yaaaaaaaaaay. Let the anticipation commence.
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Unread 08-05-2006, 11:36 PM   #106
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Nazca Vs. AquaXtreme MP1-CPU.

The Nazca is a very good block for a DIY'er. It flows very well to. I managed 8LPM for the Nazca and only 6.5LPM for the MP1-CPU block.

At .5LPM the MP1 was 3C cooler at 6LPM about 1.5C cooler.

Tomorrow I will add a few more blocks to the mix.
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Unread 08-06-2006, 01:24 AM   #107
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not bad at all for a DIY water block, congrate
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Unread 08-06-2006, 03:44 AM   #108
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Hooray! Not bad for a first-timer and that's kind of inline with what I was expecting.
I REALLY appreciate your help jaydee. If there's any artwork, CAD work, etc. you would like done let me know.

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Unread 08-06-2006, 04:33 PM   #109
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If you are not in to big a hurry to get the block back I will take a dP reading aswell. I just need a meter to read the FoxBoro dP meter. Ordering today.

Also have a MP-05 SP on the bench right now. Will add to the chart when done.
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Unread 08-06-2006, 06:48 PM   #110
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No hurry. I have alot of other stuff I can work on before I get around to putting my loop together.
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MP-05 Pro added. The MP-05 Pro is little more restrictive but better at lower flow rates. This is the one wiht the multiple hole jet. I managed 5.8LPM with this block.
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Unread 08-06-2006, 08:45 PM   #112
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Nice results so far. Are you going to do more tests with other blocks or do you have any other tests you've done on your test bench we can compare it to?
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Nice results so far. Are you going to do more tests with other blocks or do you have any other tests you've done on your test bench we can compare it to?
I have AquaXtreme IceFloe and White Water LE to run through as well. Takes me about 8 hours to run a block through. Have to wait until next weekend until I have that much time. Hopefully I can get the dP meter going as well.
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Unread 08-06-2006, 09:28 PM   #114
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Wow, thats a lot. Is that 8 hours supervised or is it something you can setup and come back to every few hours?
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Wow, thats a lot. Is that 8 hours supervised or is it something you can setup and come back to every few hours?
I usually stay in the same room as I don't have any safe guards setup in case something fails. After each flow rate adjustment I let it run for a couple hours to let equilibrium set in and take a reading.
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Unread 08-06-2006, 11:42 PM   #116
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I think that is not just "not bad at all for a DIY", it is excellent performance. Inbetween
TDX and Whitewater and can be improved on.

He's still missing the middle jets and I think he can get better flow rates by opening the outlets

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Unread 08-07-2006, 01:00 AM   #117
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very nice work what kind of milling machine are you using?....i'm planning on buying a mini lathe hope it will work for what i want to do..
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He's still missing the middle jets and I think he can get better flow rates by opening the outlets
I remade the nozzle plate before assembling the block and it includes the 4 nozzles in the very center.

I'm wondering what kind of affect on performance changing the channels in the base to straight ones would have.
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very nice work what kind of milling machine are you using?....i'm planning on buying a mini lathe hope it will work for what i want to do..
I used a huge 1973 3-axis Bridgeport manual mill. This block would have been a million time easier and faster to make using CNC, but I do not currently have affordable access to that kind of equipment.

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Unread 08-07-2006, 01:43 AM   #119
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man that's really nice work but where are the blue leds? lol....yea cnc machines are expensive... im getting one of these i think http://www.mini-lathe.com/Mini_mill/Main/mini-mill.htm but i already have a drill press...maybe i should jsut get a better x y vice ....its a mini miller/lathe kidna thing looks pretty good... who knows
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i hear about you guys lapping the block how do you do that? i just put some sand paper on a flat peice of aluminum stock and put my sand paper acording to how smooth i wanted it... is that what you do or what?
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man that's really nice work but where are the blue leds?
I hate blue. I'll be using orange and red, but I don't have that setup yet because it's the absolute last step in my project.
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i hear about you guys lapping the block how do you do that? i just put some sand paper on a flat peice of aluminum stock and put my sand paper acording to how smooth i wanted it... is that what you do or what?
I used a granite block to step up from 600grit to 800grit, then up to 1000grit wet sanding paper with white vinegar. You sand 10 times in one orientation (NOT in an orbital patter) then rotate 90 degrees, and repeat.
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Unread 08-07-2006, 03:36 PM   #122
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I don't think it will change much having straight channels. Easier and faster to build the block and might get better flow rates but very minimal.
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Unread 08-07-2006, 03:51 PM   #123
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capt slug, can the nozzle jets be removed? Wonder how the WB performs without the nozzle plate and if the jets offer any perforamnce improvements.
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Unread 08-07-2006, 04:17 PM   #124
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Nice work on the WB!

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I used a granite block to step up from 600grit to 800grit, then up to 1000grit wet sanding paper with white vinegar. You sand 10 times in one orientation (NOT in an orbital patter) then rotate 90 degrees, and repeat.
I use the standard method with a piece of glass, 600-2000grit etc...

I read something interesting over at overclockers.com about using the IHS to lap the WB and vice versa. This way they wouldn't get perfectly flat but they would mate perfectly which would be even better.
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capt slug, can the nozzle jets be removed? Wonder how the WB performs without the nozzle plate and if the jets offer any perforamnce improvements.
Yeah. I don't think the block would perform better without them though.
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