Fixiit did you see this????????? - Page 2

sunblade · 03-14-2002, 10:14 PM

Hey, WebMasta? About how much did that cost? That's pretty slick. If I decide to jump in, I'll probably get a basic model to start with (not that yours is basic, lol).

#Rotor · 03-14-2002, 10:49 PM

that is a nice one....

but If I am to buy machinary again, it will be a CNC-Mill...... I think I have taken the Drill-press to it's max, as far as doable design goes, honestly, for making water-blocks, you won't need anything bigger than the smallest drill-press you can get.....now that doesn't for one moment mean bigger is not going to be better

bigger is always better, and more accurate

DodgeViper · 03-14-2002, 11:42 PM

The Gemini 1/4" and the 3/8" were tested using the same Eheim 1048 pump. The High Volume Water Block is to use a higher GPH pump. I have changed my barbs to 1/2" only to fit the rest of my system. Fixiiit glad to see that you and Peter have talked.

mx-6* · 03-14-2002, 11:48 PM

Are those 1/2 inch ID barbs?

Brad · 03-14-2002, 11:56 PM

fix, make a penguin block, or an athlon block, I'm sure it would fit well into your designer series

DodgeViper · 03-15-2002, 12:05 AM

1/2" OD

ambient · 03-15-2002, 09:09 AM

Quote:

I have changed my barbs to 1/2" only to fit the rest of my system

Did you just remove the top and re-tap for the bigger barb? Was the top easy to remove and seal again? Has it made a difference in performance? I also have a 1/2" system and have considered buying this block and moddin it. Are those barbs 1/2"od 1/4"id?

DodgeViper · 03-15-2002, 09:29 AM

The Gemini Cool because of its channel size I do not think you want to enlarge the hole in the Lexan. If you do you may risk crossing over into the next channel. The Lexan is tapped for 1/8" pipe thread. The top is sealed. I bought 1/8" to 1/2" OD barbs from McMaster Carr. The main reason I changed out the barbs was the rad I built I used 1/2" OD barbs and the pump that is backordered is for 1/2" ID tubing. You’re not going to gain anything by enlarging the hole in the Lexan. The High Volume Block was designed for pumps of 360 GPH. To answer you question the barbs are 1/2” OD and 5/16” ID.

Fixittt · 03-15-2002, 11:56 AM

Peter told me that you would not want to put bigger ID barbs in the block becuause it will defonitly have channel overlap.

What VIPER did was addapt the gemini block to his existing cooling setup. I think by doing that it would cause backpreasure on the pump, and lower flow rates..... I guess Viper can aswer those questions.

WebMasta33 · 03-15-2002, 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by sunblade
Hey, WebMasta? About how much did that cost? That's pretty slick. If I decide to jump in, I'll probably get a basic model to start with (not that yours is basic, lol).

I got a floor model (it was in perfect condition). I only spent 170 bucks for a $300 drill press

The only problem with it, is that you can't put extreamly small bits in the chuck. The chuck is a 5/8" chuck. I could just swap it out, but I need the large chuck for my big boring bits.

DodgeViper · 03-15-2002, 12:38 PM

Fixiiit, your correct. I had already purchased the 1/2" silicon tubing and the radiator already had been built using 1/2" barbs. The new barbs are the same inside but will fit 1/2" hose. There very well may be backpressure, but with the pumps being used for water-cooling you’re going to get backpressure. The High Volume Block is designed for 360 GPH or more. Most high output pumps including Eheim's come with larger inlet/outlet fittings than the 3/8" fittings found on Gemini WB. Whether you reduce the pipe size at the pump or at the WB it's still the same. Once the pump arrives I will run a test and find out what the water flow is going through the HVWB.

turd monkey · 03-15-2002, 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by decodeddiesel
Now, that was appropriate for a public forum. I am glad to see everything was worked out in a civil maner guys. I hope to see great things from both of you in the future.

Thanks for keeping the forum safe from evil.....

I found it humorous how all of gemini's _defensive_ postings were deemed "unprofessional" by you, and when fixxit posts that he is "talking with Gemini" (for the second time) you step forward like you were an key negotiator in the peace process.

All of your posts on this issue are and have been "unprofessional" (read biased) from the start.

Check out the "I don't believe this!! CPUfx" thread if anyone needs a reminder.

http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...?threadid=2479

Maybe its just me but all the bashing has gotten pretty old. Its gotten to the point where there are really 2 types of water cooling equipment (or really anything).
"Stuff that works"
-and-
"Stuff that i can say i own on a forum without wearing asbestos"

I'd love to order a Fixxit made spir@l from D-Tek but the fact is it would be pretty damn hard for me to get my hands on one. I'm glad that him and Gemini have attempted to redress their grievances again.

Now if we could all just join hands and sing a particular Michael Jackson song i think we could make the world a better place.....

Jim · 03-15-2002, 09:57 PM

Sing what?

It would be nice if increased production and profits (for them) would come out of this. I would like to try a Fixittt Spir@l, sooner than later.

Jim

Fixittt · 03-15-2002, 10:14 PM

I feel the same way about the whole Gemini and Fixittt thing. I ran my mouth cause I felt feelings. And I publicly and personally appologized for it.I also sought out a way that would end it and make the customers win in the situation.

Things are coming together, and I feel that with the new found friendships, things will become that much tighter

WATCH OUT MARKET HERE WE COME TO DOMINATE!

I just always wanted to say that!

DodgeViper · 03-15-2002, 10:42 PM

It’s great that a new friendship will develop because the consumer is going to benefit having you both. Look what AMD did for the CPU market. Having Intel and AMD has brought the price down and in turn has given us all better CPU in a shorter amount of time. Now if we could only do something with Microsoft....

Brad · 03-15-2002, 11:37 PM

fix, what about a penguin block in the designer series?

sunblade · 03-16-2002, 12:38 AM

Ahhh no brad, that was my idea

Actually, I'm rather interested as to how a penguin block would perform. Morphling's design with all the spikes looks like a similar shape to what I was thinking of, but the way he had the water come over the core and split off is probably a better design than having dual input or output barbs.

Brad · 03-16-2002, 03:07 AM

you could use very thin pvc as the channels, and use white LEDs to illuminate the inner area, and have the outer part anodised black, so it looks just like a penguin

Fixittt · 03-16-2002, 08:42 AM

I was thinking about it and what I think would be kool is to a solid penguin shape inside the block, then mill fins thure it. So it holds the basic shape but increases surface area. I think if done right, you could still reconize the shape, and have the inlet and out lets on the sides of the block

03-14-2002, 11:56 PM	#30
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	fix, make a penguin block, or an athlon block, I'm sure it would fit well into your designer series __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-15-2002, 11:56 AM	#34
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	Peter told me that you would not want to put bigger ID barbs in the block becuause it will defonitly have channel overlap. What VIPER did was addapt the gemini block to his existing cooling setup. I think by doing that it would cause backpreasure on the pump, and lower flow rates..... I guess Viper can aswer those questions. __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

03-15-2002, 12:38 PM	#36
DodgeViper Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 204	Fixiiit, your correct. I had already purchased the 1/2" silicon tubing and the radiator already had been built using 1/2" barbs. The new barbs are the same inside but will fit 1/2" hose. There very well may be backpressure, but with the pumps being used for water-cooling you’re going to get backpressure. The High Volume Block is designed for 360 GPH or more. Most high output pumps including Eheim's come with larger inlet/outlet fittings than the 3/8" fittings found on Gemini WB. Whether you reduce the pipe size at the pump or at the WB it's still the same. Once the pump arrives I will run a test and find out what the water flow is going through the HVWB. Last edited by DodgeViper; 03-15-2002 at 10:30 PM.

03-15-2002, 10:14 PM	#39
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	I feel the same way about the whole Gemini and Fixittt thing. I ran my mouth cause I felt feelings. And I publicly and personally appologized for it.I also sought out a way that would end it and make the customers win in the situation. Things are coming together, and I feel that with the new found friendships, things will become that much tighter WATCH OUT MARKET HERE WE COME TO DOMINATE! I just always wanted to say that! __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

03-15-2002, 11:37 PM	#41
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	fix, what about a penguin block in the designer series? __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-14-2002, 10:14 PM	#26
sunblade Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: USA Posts: 156	Hey, WebMasta? About how much did that cost? That's pretty slick. If I decide to jump in, I'll probably get a basic model to start with (not that yours is basic, lol).

03-14-2002, 10:49 PM	#27
#Rotor Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dione, sector 4s1256 Posts: 852	that is a nice one.... but If I am to buy machinary again, it will be a CNC-Mill...... I think I have taken the Drill-press to it's max, as far as doable design goes, honestly, for making water-blocks, you won't need anything bigger than the smallest drill-press you can get.....now that doesn't for one moment mean bigger is not going to be better bigger is always better, and more accurate

03-14-2002, 11:48 PM	#29
mx-6* Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 165	Are those 1/2 inch ID barbs?

03-15-2002, 12:05 AM	#31
DodgeViper Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 204	1/2" OD

03-15-2002, 09:29 AM	#33
DodgeViper Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 204	The Gemini Cool because of its channel size I do not think you want to enlarge the hole in the Lexan. If you do you may risk crossing over into the next channel. The Lexan is tapped for 1/8" pipe thread. The top is sealed. I bought 1/8" to 1/2" OD barbs from McMaster Carr. The main reason I changed out the barbs was the rad I built I used 1/2" OD barbs and the pump that is backordered is for 1/2" ID tubing. You’re not going to gain anything by enlarging the hole in the Lexan. The High Volume Block was designed for pumps of 360 GPH. To answer you question the barbs are 1/2” OD and 5/16” ID.

03-15-2002, 09:57 PM	#38
Jim Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 389	Sing what? It would be nice if increased production and profits (for them) would come out of this. I would like to try a Fixittt Spir@l, sooner than later. Jim

03-15-2002, 10:42 PM	#40
DodgeViper Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 204	It’s great that a new friendship will develop because the consumer is going to benefit having you both. Look what AMD did for the CPU market. Having Intel and AMD has brought the price down and in turn has given us all better CPU in a shorter amount of time. Now if we could only do something with Microsoft....

03-16-2002, 12:38 AM	#42
sunblade Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: USA Posts: 156	Ahhh no brad, that was my idea Actually, I'm rather interested as to how a penguin block would perform. Morphling's design with all the spikes looks like a similar shape to what I was thinking of, but the way he had the water come over the core and split off is probably a better design than having dual input or output barbs.

03-16-2002, 03:07 AM	#43
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	you could use very thin pvc as the channels, and use white LEDs to illuminate the inner area, and have the outer part anodised black, so it looks just like a penguin __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-16-2002, 08:42 AM	#44
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	I was thinking about it and what I think would be kool is to a solid penguin shape inside the block, then mill fins thure it. So it holds the basic shape but increases surface area. I think if done right, you could still reconize the shape, and have the inlet and out lets on the sides of the block __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

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