Tygon/clamps, getting chewed up...

kibbler · 06-14-2002, 07:35 PM

I didn't have this problem using thickwall silicone, but since tygon is so soft, the tubing really gets chewed up (don't really know how else to describe it) with those worm-drive metal hose clamps. Just to play it safe, if I need to un-clamp a section of my cooling circuit, I usually end up replacing that section with new tygon, since the ends no longer look capable of holding to a barb. What are some hose-clamp alternatives, something tough and reassuring that can also keep a perfectly circular hold?

chazz469 · 06-14-2002, 07:45 PM

Try plastic clamps.

kibbler · 06-14-2002, 08:12 PM

uh, thanx, but what kind...

xerka · 06-14-2002, 11:56 PM

You can buy plastic ones at your local hardware shop or you could go to danger den and buy them HERE

WebMasta33 · 06-15-2002, 12:29 AM

How thick of Tygon did you get?

I got the 1/8" thick wall, and am having no problem with the cheapo worm drive clamps...

Yes, it left an imprint in the tubing, but it didn't rip it or damage it in anyway.

redleader · 06-15-2002, 12:47 AM

Run a layer of teflon tape over the tygon and then clamp it. Keeps the tube in perfect shape and still seals.

Or just use spring clamps from your hardware store since they seal more evenly anyway IMO.

Cyco-Dude · 06-15-2002, 01:44 AM

yes, what thickness tubing do you have and what formulation (R-1000? R-3603?) i ask becuase R-1000 is much softer than R-3603 and silicone....the shore rating for R-3603 is slightly higher than silicone also (which means it isnt as soft / flexible).
maybe you're clamping too hard? :shrug: just tighten it until its snug, dont muscle it on.

gone_fishin · 06-15-2002, 01:54 AM

No clamps here with the 1/16" wall R-1000 Tygon. I have oversized and matching size barbs. This variety of tygon in 1/2" ID proved useless on the pump intake because it just got sucked closed so I switched to a vinyl tube for that length only.
Here's a pick of it on my block barbs with water going through.

kibbler · 06-15-2002, 08:56 AM

I'm using R3603 1/8in (I think, thin wall anyway), and I think cycodude is right, I'm just clamping too hard. Anyway, even without clamps, I can hardly pull the tygon off of the barbs in my connections, so next overhaul I might go clampless, see what happens.

kibbler · 06-15-2002, 08:57 AM

btw, gonefishing, that is one hell of a block

Cyco-Dude · 06-15-2002, 09:03 AM

well, if you can see the tubing being squished out of those little slots on the clamp, then you know youre overtightening it.

drsmoothie · 06-15-2002, 03:21 PM

I have some plastic hose clams for sale if you want. They are the one that dangerden gave me.

I also have a water resevoir for sale.

Cyco-Dude · 06-15-2002, 05:03 PM

why not post them in the for sale forum for all to see

Chuki · 06-21-2002, 12:25 AM

Fuel injection clamps my freind.

06-14-2002, 07:35 PM	#1
kibbler Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 107	Tygon/clamps, getting chewed up... I didn't have this problem using thickwall silicone, but since tygon is so soft, the tubing really gets chewed up (don't really know how else to describe it) with those worm-drive metal hose clamps. Just to play it safe, if I need to un-clamp a section of my cooling circuit, I usually end up replacing that section with new tygon, since the ends no longer look capable of holding to a barb. What are some hose-clamp alternatives, something tough and reassuring that can also keep a perfectly circular hold?

06-14-2002, 07:45 PM	#2
chazz469 Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 150	Try plastic clamps. __________________ "I believe that the moment is near when by a procedure of active paranoiac thought, it will be possible to systematize confusion to the total discrediting of the world of reality" -Salvador Dali AMD XP1600+ @1790MHz and rethinking my cooling.... MAZE3 --> DD Cooler Cube --> Eheim 1048 512MB PC2700 DDR MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU 2x 20GB Maxtor in RAID 0 1x 30GB Maxtor --> WinXP GF3 Ti200 @ 240/499

06-15-2002, 12:29 AM	#5
WebMasta33 Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nebraska Posts: 526	How thick of Tygon did you get? I got the 1/8" thick wall, and am having no problem with the cheapo worm drive clamps... Yes, it left an imprint in the tubing, but it didn't rip it or damage it in anyway. __________________ ========== --Soyo KT333 DRAGON Ultra (Platinum Edition) --AMD 1.4 @ 1.54 (11x) --768mb of PC2100 (@140FSB) --Asus v8200 GeForce3 @ 210/490 --Maxtor 40gb Quiet + 2 IBM 40gb 60GXPs (removable) + 8gb WD --Audigy --Maze 3, DD Gf3 block, 2x BIX, Eheim1250 ===========

06-15-2002, 03:21 PM	#12
drsmoothie Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 11	I have some plastic hose clams for sale if you want. They are the one that dangerden gave me. I also have a water resevoir for sale. Last edited by drsmoothie; 02-17-2005 at 09:34 PM.

06-21-2002, 12:25 AM	#14
Chuki Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Walla Walla, Washington Posts: 41	Fuel injection clamps my freind. __________________ EPoX 8k3a+ \| XP1900+ 10x180 \| ATI Radeon 9700 Pro \| 512 XMS PC3200 C2\| Maxtor D740X 60gig \| Pioneer 106S 16X Slot Load \| Lite On 24x10x40x \| Turtle Beach Santa Cruz \| Blackice Rad \| DD Maze2 \| Lian Li PC-65 w/side window

06-14-2002, 08:12 PM	#3
kibbler Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 107	uh, thanx, but what kind...

06-14-2002, 11:56 PM	#4
xerka Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 107	You can buy plastic ones at your local hardware shop or you could go to danger den and buy them HERE

06-15-2002, 12:47 AM	#6
redleader Thermophile Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The deserts of Tucson, Az Posts: 1,264	Run a layer of teflon tape over the tygon and then clamp it. Keeps the tube in perfect shape and still seals. Or just use spring clamps from your hardware store since they seal more evenly anyway IMO.

06-15-2002, 01:44 AM	#7
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	yes, what thickness tubing do you have and what formulation (R-1000? R-3603?) i ask becuase R-1000 is much softer than R-3603 and silicone....the shore rating for R-3603 is slightly higher than silicone also (which means it isnt as soft / flexible). maybe you're clamping too hard? :shrug: just tighten it until its snug, dont muscle it on.

06-15-2002, 08:56 AM	#9
kibbler Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 107	I'm using R3603 1/8in (I think, thin wall anyway), and I think cycodude is right, I'm just clamping too hard. Anyway, even without clamps, I can hardly pull the tygon off of the barbs in my connections, so next overhaul I might go clampless, see what happens.

06-15-2002, 08:57 AM	#10
kibbler Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 107	btw, gonefishing, that is one hell of a block

06-15-2002, 09:03 AM	#11
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	well, if you can see the tubing being squished out of those little slots on the clamp, then you know youre overtightening it.

06-15-2002, 05:03 PM	#13
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	why not post them in the for sale forum for all to see

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