Drilling Black Ice?

Sirpent · 06-15-2002, 03:29 PM

Is it possible to drill mounting holes in the lower surface of Black Ice Extreme/Pro (and still be able to use the thing)? Does anybody know the internal construction?

Brad · 06-15-2002, 04:07 PM

not really, basically the entire rad is used. why don't you show us a pic of where you want to drill

ambient · 06-15-2002, 04:14 PM

its already got some wholes in it.

Sirpent · 06-15-2002, 05:34 PM

That's what I had in mind:

DigitalChaos · 06-15-2002, 05:36 PM

no that wont work.

Cyco-Dude · 06-15-2002, 06:52 PM

why do you want to drill a hole in the tank?

as long as its sealed, methinks you can do it. its just a tank.

Brad · 06-15-2002, 11:36 PM

you can do that if you seal it well enough

WebMasta33 · 06-16-2002, 12:25 AM

Eh, I would practice drilling and sealing on some aluminum sheeting first however.

But I would seriously try to figure out alternate methods of attachment first.

Cyco-Dude · 06-16-2002, 10:23 AM

oh, i didnt see that part. dont drill your tank if you want mounting holes LOL!! what you do is get thin bolts (like 4x32 or 6x32 thread size for standard thread, maybe 3-5mm for metric), and you just screw them thru the radiators fins. make sure the bolt its longer than the rads depth (1 1/2" is good, but see how long you need em).
you'll need to cut out a hole similar in shape to this:

Code:

        __________
  -->* /          \ *<-- holes where
      /            \        the bolts go
      |            |       through.
      |            |
      |            |
      \            /
  -->* \__________/ *<--

you then slide the rad (and the ends of the bolts) thru those holes, and tighten it down with a nut.

WebMasta33 · 06-16-2002, 10:41 AM

^^^ Be advised, I could only get 2 bolts through my BIX because they other two bolt holes didn't line up

But, two is sufficient, so long as you put some good nuts on the bolts!

pompoen · 06-16-2002, 11:36 AM

you could also attach the BIX with elastics or make something with the wood off wine crates

Cyco-Dude · 06-16-2002, 02:14 PM

wine crates?? lol

you could use zip-ties as well...

and if the bolt holes dont line up, just widen the holes somehow (it can be done, you figure it out). but 2 bolts should be ok hehe

Sirpent · 06-16-2002, 03:17 PM

Thanks to all!

pompoen · 06-16-2002, 04:06 PM

i'm glad you liked the help you got from us but what are you gonna do?

Cyco-Dude · 06-16-2002, 04:35 PM

tack-weld hehe

Sirpent · 06-16-2002, 05:18 PM

Well, the project (a watercooling system built from scratch) is in its early planning stages. I want to make the system as quiet as possible. I plan to put the rad/fan to the "upper floor" of a big tower case and attach an exhaust air duct. The exhaust hole in the back panel does not have to be the exact size and shape of the fan/rad. Also, I want to cover all internal surfaces (the duct walls too!) with vibration- and sound- absorbing material. I hope this will be better noise-wise than the conventional "surface" placement of fan/rad. I am going to make a neat relay-controlled socket for the Eheim, but will I watercool the PSU? Not sure yet.

Any remarks/suggestions?

WebMasta33 · 06-16-2002, 10:32 PM

Use "L" brackets.

Drill out holes if the L brackets holds don't line up with the black ice holes, and then drill out holes in your case do drill in the L brackets.

It'd be a heck of alot easier, and probably more stable as well.

06-15-2002, 03:29 PM	#1
Sirpent Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2002 Location: here, there .... Posts: 20	Drilling Black Ice? Is it possible to drill mounting holes in the lower surface of Black Ice Extreme/Pro (and still be able to use the thing)? Does anybody know the internal construction?

06-15-2002, 04:07 PM	#2
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	not really, basically the entire rad is used. why don't you show us a pic of where you want to drill __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

06-15-2002, 04:14 PM	#3
ambient Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 312	its already got some wholes in it. __________________ water cooled 1.4 tbird @ 1580 143x11 vcore 1.88 vio 3.55

06-15-2002, 11:36 PM	#7
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	you can do that if you seal it well enough __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

06-16-2002, 12:25 AM	#8
WebMasta33 Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nebraska Posts: 526	Eh, I would practice drilling and sealing on some aluminum sheeting first however. But I would seriously try to figure out alternate methods of attachment first. __________________ ========== --Soyo KT333 DRAGON Ultra (Platinum Edition) --AMD 1.4 @ 1.54 (11x) --768mb of PC2100 (@140FSB) --Asus v8200 GeForce3 @ 210/490 --Maxtor 40gb Quiet + 2 IBM 40gb 60GXPs (removable) + 8gb WD --Audigy --Maze 3, DD Gf3 block, 2x BIX, Eheim1250 ===========

06-15-2002, 05:36 PM	#5
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	no that wont work.

06-15-2002, 06:52 PM	#6
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	why do you want to drill a hole in the tank? as long as its sealed, methinks you can do it. its just a tank.

06-16-2002, 10:23 AM	#9
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	oh, i didnt see that part. dont drill your tank if you want mounting holes LOL!! what you do is get thin bolts (like 4x32 or 6x32 thread size for standard thread, maybe 3-5mm for metric), and you just screw them thru the radiators fins. make sure the bolt its longer than the rads depth (1 1/2" is good, but see how long you need em). you'll need to cut out a hole similar in shape to this: Code: __________ -->* / \ <-- holes where / \ the bolts go \| \| through. \| \| \| \| \ / --> \__________/ *<-- you then slide the rad (and the ends of the bolts) thru those holes, and tighten it down with a nut.

06-16-2002, 10:41 AM	#10
WebMasta33 Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nebraska Posts: 526	^^^ Be advised, I could only get 2 bolts through my BIX because they other two bolt holes didn't line up But, two is sufficient, so long as you put some good nuts on the bolts! __________________ ========== --Soyo KT333 DRAGON Ultra (Platinum Edition) --AMD 1.4 @ 1.54 (11x) --768mb of PC2100 (@140FSB) --Asus v8200 GeForce3 @ 210/490 --Maxtor 40gb Quiet + 2 IBM 40gb 60GXPs (removable) + 8gb WD --Audigy --Maze 3, DD Gf3 block, 2x BIX, Eheim1250 ===========

06-16-2002, 11:36 AM	#11
pompoen Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: belgium Posts: 41	you could also attach the BIX with elastics or make something with the wood off wine crates

06-16-2002, 02:14 PM	#12
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	wine crates?? lol you could use zip-ties as well... and if the bolt holes dont line up, just widen the holes somehow (it can be done, you figure it out). but 2 bolts should be ok hehe

06-16-2002, 03:17 PM	#13
Sirpent Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2002 Location: here, there .... Posts: 20	Thanks to all!

06-16-2002, 04:06 PM	#14
pompoen Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: belgium Posts: 41	i'm glad you liked the help you got from us but what are you gonna do?

06-16-2002, 04:35 PM	#15
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	tack-weld hehe

06-16-2002, 10:32 PM	#17
WebMasta33 Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nebraska Posts: 526	Use "L" brackets. Drill out holes if the L brackets holds don't line up with the black ice holes, and then drill out holes in your case do drill in the L brackets. It'd be a heck of alot easier, and probably more stable as well. __________________ ========== --Soyo KT333 DRAGON Ultra (Platinum Edition) --AMD 1.4 @ 1.54 (11x) --768mb of PC2100 (@140FSB) --Asus v8200 GeForce3 @ 210/490 --Maxtor 40gb Quiet + 2 IBM 40gb 60GXPs (removable) + 8gb WD --Audigy --Maze 3, DD Gf3 block, 2x BIX, Eheim1250 ===========

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