uilizing ground temps

Nick C · 12-31-2002, 11:55 PM

the gournd stays around 56 or so degrees fariegnhieght year round at depths of 2 or so feet around here, in oregon.

So, I wonder if burying copper pipe aout 1.5 feet down in a winding pattern, would give good temperatures, siliently...

r, would a multiple-channel parrallel setup be better?

Also, in a one pump setup, what pump should I use?

in a two pump, I plan to use my Eheim, and also to use a very powerful one to push water through the pipes, which then will be pumped into a resivore.

see the pic I attached, it shows a winding two pump system

Mikey Boo · 01-01-2003, 12:16 AM

not sure about this in oregon, but i think u might have to go deeper. u have to worry about the perma frost layer, winter times(anything down to 3 feet) not sure but i think i am... ive seen sum ppl go down to 6 feet deep and then have thier water container. if u only went down to 2 feet deep u have to worry about the lines freezing with the water. if i kan find the article, ill post the url for ya.

other wise it is a gud idea... im goin to see if i can do this where i live, just have to figure what type of supplies i need first.

Nick C · 01-01-2003, 12:36 AM

all I know is, we left a pipe under 6 inches of soil this winter when it froze, and it didn't break

in this part of oregon is rarly gets to freezing
and there isn't permafrost here lol

Mikey Boo · 01-01-2003, 03:35 AM

okay my bad on the perma frost thing, its bloody new years drinking... anyways there still is a frost layer, that u have to watch out for, maybe... all iknow is the deeper u go the less increase and decrease of temps u will get. it will stay at a certain temp when u go deeper into the ground. where as if its only a foot deep u will get hotter temps durin the day and cooler in the evenin.

and happy new year to anyone who reads this post

im goin to pass out now!

gmat · 01-01-2003, 05:30 AM

Nick C: do a search in these forums for posts made by 'BladeRunner'.
And take a look at his site:
http://www.zerofanzone.co.uk
He's done that already

You'll find lots of info there and in these forums.

Nick C · 01-01-2003, 01:54 PM

thanxs guys

redleader · 01-06-2003, 02:59 PM

Yeah but Blade had ground water too as I recall. What I want to know is if that would work here in Tucson. Go a few feet down and the sand is quite cool - even when its a 120F outside.

gmat · 01-06-2003, 04:12 PM

As long as the soil is cold enough all year long, there's no problem. BR has buried his tank in dirt BTW, not water. Just make sure you've got a thermally conductive tank...

ambient · 01-06-2003, 04:35 PM

i sent a link to overclockers about a year ago with a guy that did this with a maze2, ehiem 1250, and a 50 gallon tank. He said in the article that he needed to put it 6 feet down for a constant 11c all year. Check www.overclockers.com for a link. After reading the article i thought about drilling a whole in the basement wall for a long time ;D wife wouldn't let me

Yo-DUH_87 · 01-06-2003, 06:37 PM

another good 'ol oregonian, what part of oregon? I live in Tigard, near portland or tualatin...

I just had the experience of helping fix a pipe break from the water box to the house (or at least helped dig/fill in the holes). They put your water main pipes down about 3-4 feet, at the most.

Heck, we have water pipes running under our house, that have never frozen, and they are completely exposed to the cold/heat of the season!

freeloadingbum · 01-07-2003, 02:03 AM

A parellel setup should give you better flowrate through your system. But whatever you do, be careful cause there's a giant rat living under your house and it might have rabies!

Hixup · 01-07-2003, 10:09 PM

i saw a guy that went overboard, he watercooled everything includeing his psu, but he burryied a resuvior of a coupple gallons eight feet deep in the ground, but he had a rad in his comp, just basicly chilled water. I forgot where the pics are at... but it has it all. He even dug it with a back hoe.
[edit] sorry i didnt read that guys post, http://www.zerofanzone.co.uk/ saw it somewhere on there [/edit]
[edit2] http://www.dwpg.com/content.php?cont...77&orgartid=57 [/edit2]

gmat · 01-08-2003, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hixup
i saw a guy that went overboard, he watercooled everything includeing his psu, but he burryied a resuvior of a coupple gallons eight feet deep in the ground, but he had a rad in his comp, just basicly chilled water. I forgot where the pics are at... but it has it all. He even dug it with a back hoe.
[edit] sorry i didnt read that guys post, http://www.zerofanzone.co.uk/ saw it somewhere on there [/edit]
[edit2] http://www.dwpg.com/content.php?cont...77&orgartid=57 [/edit2]

Yep. BladeRunner. That's his nickname

He's has quite a few posts on these very forums...

Nick C · 01-08-2003, 09:14 AM

heh, I live down by roseburg... I'm the only WC/OCer in the whole county!!

anyway, I found a big, copper radiator I'd use if I did this

and I think I might try it!

BrianW · 01-08-2003, 06:24 PM

If you bury a reservoir it will be exposed to about whatever the average yearly temerature is in your area. That is what I remember from geology in college.

Brian W

01-01-2003, 12:16 AM	#2
Mikey Boo Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 78	not sure about this in oregon, but i think u might have to go deeper. u have to worry about the perma frost layer, winter times(anything down to 3 feet) not sure but i think i am... ive seen sum ppl go down to 6 feet deep and then have thier water container. if u only went down to 2 feet deep u have to worry about the lines freezing with the water. if i kan find the article, ill post the url for ya. other wise it is a gud idea... im goin to see if i can do this where i live, just have to figure what type of supplies i need first. __________________ Watercoolin + a leak = a wet floor

01-01-2003, 03:35 AM	#4
Mikey Boo Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 78	okay my bad on the perma frost thing, its bloody new years drinking... anyways there still is a frost layer, that u have to watch out for, maybe... all iknow is the deeper u go the less increase and decrease of temps u will get. it will stay at a certain temp when u go deeper into the ground. where as if its only a foot deep u will get hotter temps durin the day and cooler in the evenin. and happy new year to anyone who reads this post im goin to pass out now! __________________ Watercoolin + a leak = a wet floor

01-06-2003, 04:35 PM	#9
ambient Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 312	i sent a link to overclockers about a year ago with a guy that did this with a maze2, ehiem 1250, and a 50 gallon tank. He said in the article that he needed to put it 6 feet down for a constant 11c all year. Check www.overclockers.com for a link. After reading the article i thought about drilling a whole in the basement wall for a long time ;D wife wouldn't let me __________________ water cooled 1.4 tbird @ 1580 143x11 vcore 1.88 vio 3.55

01-06-2003, 06:37 PM	#10
Yo-DUH_87 Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 230	another good 'ol oregonian, what part of oregon? I live in Tigard, near portland or tualatin... I just had the experience of helping fix a pipe break from the water box to the house (or at least helped dig/fill in the holes). They put your water main pipes down about 3-4 feet, at the most. Heck, we have water pipes running under our house, that have never frozen, and they are completely exposed to the cold/heat of the season! __________________ Signing out... Yo-DUH_87 If it works, fix it until it's broke! Then, after it's broke, add duct tape! Affordable webhosting!

01-07-2003, 10:09 PM	#12
Hixup Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: By the computer Posts: 51	i saw a guy that went overboard, he watercooled everything includeing his psu, but he burryied a resuvior of a coupple gallons eight feet deep in the ground, but he had a rad in his comp, just basicly chilled water. I forgot where the pics are at... but it has it all. He even dug it with a back hoe. [edit] sorry i didnt read that guys post, http://www.zerofanzone.co.uk/ saw it somewhere on there [/edit] [edit2] http://www.dwpg.com/content.php?cont...77&orgartid=57 [/edit2] __________________ AMD Athlon XP 1900+ Water Cooled Soyo SY-K7V Dragon plus! 512 DDR radoen 9500 Soft Mod Give Me Money

01-01-2003, 12:36 AM	#3
Nick C Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: OREGON Posts: 62	all I know is, we left a pipe under 6 inches of soil this winter when it froze, and it didn't break in this part of oregon is rarly gets to freezing and there isn't permafrost here lol

01-01-2003, 05:30 AM	#5
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	Nick C: do a search in these forums for posts made by 'BladeRunner'. And take a look at his site: http://www.zerofanzone.co.uk He's done that already You'll find lots of info there and in these forums.

01-01-2003, 01:54 PM	#6
Nick C Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: OREGON Posts: 62	thanxs guys

01-06-2003, 02:59 PM	#7
redleader Thermophile Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The deserts of Tucson, Az Posts: 1,264	Yeah but Blade had ground water too as I recall. What I want to know is if that would work here in Tucson. Go a few feet down and the sand is quite cool - even when its a 120F outside.

01-06-2003, 04:12 PM	#8
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	As long as the soil is cold enough all year long, there's no problem. BR has buried his tank in dirt BTW, not water. Just make sure you've got a thermally conductive tank...

01-07-2003, 02:03 AM	#11
freeloadingbum Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: winnipeg Posts: 129	A parellel setup should give you better flowrate through your system. But whatever you do, be careful cause there's a giant rat living under your house and it might have rabies!

01-08-2003, 09:14 AM	#14
Nick C Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: OREGON Posts: 62	heh, I live down by roseburg... I'm the only WC/OCer in the whole county!! anyway, I found a big, copper radiator I'd use if I did this and I think I might try it!

01-08-2003, 06:24 PM	#15
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	If you bury a reservoir it will be exposed to about whatever the average yearly temerature is in your area. That is what I remember from geology in college. Brian W __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

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