My Waterblock.. ideas...suggestions..

Rami Saikali · 05-05-2003, 12:58 AM

Hey

Okay well this is just a THOUGHT... i might not even go through with this if it proves to be too troublesome...

I have never used autocad 2004 before and i just started trying it out so please excuse the TERRIBLE images.

The water enters from both of the two inlets and pours down on a long rectangle shaped thing... to better illustrate the rectngle thing here is a side view:

Its just a pyramid thing that the water gets forced on. It goes through inlets and goes through the channels towards the outlets no the side. I know a lot of things are missaligned thijs is just a quick render because i dont know crap about autocad.

Suggestions much appriciated.

Thanks

--Excelsior

P.S. anyone have an autocad tutorial..? I need help

:::EDIT:: made images easier to see::/edit::

LiquidRulez · 05-05-2003, 02:07 AM

I dont understand what the block is supposed to look like......the pics are hard to comprehend what youre trying to accomplish.

Autocad is a very advanced proggie to try to learn for a novice.......from what I hear the learning curve is about 6 months average.
Maybe you should try a simpler cad program(there are some nice free versions out there) until you get the basics down, and then adapt what you learn to Autocad. Maybe this will help in learning.

I prefer to use Solidworks myself........gotta love it!

See if you can whip up a better render of the block, and Im sure youll get many replies around here. We all love to give our opinions.....good or not

Rami Saikali · 05-05-2003, 02:14 AM

There is a pic someone from oc-forums.com drew for me

Rayman2k2 · 05-05-2003, 06:29 AM

http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...5&pagenumber=4

scroll down to the first pic. your block is kinda like mine.

msv · 05-05-2003, 09:14 AM

Interesting idea.
Though it looks em... big.
Is it for P4 or Athlon?
The walls (channels) at the sides seems to be longer than needed, I doubt that any heat spreads so far from center of block.
OK, it´s out of scale in the first place, but I think You should keep this design small.
regards
Mikael S.

Balinju · 05-05-2003, 09:27 AM

correct me if i am wrong, your design looks like a ww but with the fins discontinous in the middle and you placed a fin with a pyramid form in the middle and facing 90 degrees the other.

if i understood well, you should be able to make that with some cad in about 30 min or less.

I never went to cad couses btw and I learnt some cad with hara. we do not know much but know at least anough for us to design blocks. that should that you a lot of time, it tooks us maybe a couple of hours to learn it

Balinju · 05-05-2003, 09:48 AM

is it this what you wanted to say or i understood badly?? or only the top of the middle fin is pointed and not the whole of the fin??

Balinju · 05-05-2003, 11:34 AM

or is it this what you meant?? Or none of these 2

LiquidRulez · 05-05-2003, 11:36 AM

I think he means something like this....

Balinju · 05-05-2003, 11:42 AM

i thought that there was some gap between the fins and the pyramid, at least that is what i can make from his first picture

infact i was going to comment on the empty space between the pyramid and the other fins

Rami Saikali · 05-05-2003, 03:35 PM

Thank you LiquidRulez i meant somethiing pretty close to what that is... but instead of the pyramids having the room for the channels cut in i meant for it to be just one long pyramid forcing the water down into the pyramid..

Basically just like liquidrules's pic but the gaps between pyramids would be one continous pyramid...

i thought about it and i am thinking that it isnt such a great idea since it wouldnt cool as quickly as a WW...

I just want a WW type block that i can make that might give a tad better results..

Suggestions appriciated

Balinju · 05-05-2003, 04:10 PM

you mean like this?

Rami Saikali · 05-05-2003, 04:22 PM

kind of...

the bottom would be solid though.. the channels wouldnt stick out but rather be engraved.its basically EXACTLY like a WW EXCEPT that i am going to add the pyramid thing on top and remove the channels under the pyramid thing..

winewood · 05-05-2003, 05:33 PM

As far as the 6 barbs.. 2 in, 4 out. Is it more efficient to use a spreader/nozzel to spread the same water amount but over a wider area with 1 inlet, 2 outlets. I like innovation and trying new things. I would love to see the pyramid center data. It is unique.. or more unique and it challenges the norm. But the barb thing.. I don't understand how it could be beinificial if you could just but a slit nozzel over that area.

bigben2k · 05-05-2003, 07:07 PM

Ya'll are going around in circles!

#1: Take LiquidRulez drawing, and turn the pyramids 90 degrees, so that the flow splits itself into the channels.

or

#2: Take the last drawing by Balinju, and turn the pyramid upside down, on its tip: you read it right... the upside down pyramid will throw the coolant into turbulence.

My $0.02 ...

05-05-2003, 06:29 AM	#4
Rayman2k2 Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 190	http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...5&pagenumber=4 scroll down to the first pic. your block is kinda like mine. __________________ -Insert Signature Here-

05-05-2003, 09:27 AM	#6
Balinju Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 495	correct me if i am wrong, your design looks like a ww but with the fins discontinous in the middle and you placed a fin with a pyramid form in the middle and facing 90 degrees the other. if i understood well, you should be able to make that with some cad in about 30 min or less. I never went to cad couses btw and I learnt some cad with hara. we do not know much but know at least anough for us to design blocks. that should that you a lot of time, it tooks us maybe a couple of hours to learn it __________________ So the bullet proof vest aint a $hit when d laser is pointed to your head Kid

05-05-2003, 11:42 AM	#10
Balinju Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 495	i thought that there was some gap between the fins and the pyramid, at least that is what i can make from his first picture infact i was going to comment on the empty space between the pyramid and the other fins __________________ So the bullet proof vest aint a $hit when d laser is pointed to your head Kid Last edited by Balinju; 05-05-2003 at 12:48 PM.

05-05-2003, 05:33 PM	#14
winewood Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: in my chair Posts: 574	As far as the 6 barbs.. 2 in, 4 out. Is it more efficient to use a spreader/nozzel to spread the same water amount but over a wider area with 1 inlet, 2 outlets. I like innovation and trying new things. I would love to see the pyramid center data. It is unique.. or more unique and it challenges the norm. But the barb thing.. I don't understand how it could be beinificial if you could just but a slit nozzel over that area. __________________ -winewood-

05-05-2003, 07:07 PM	#15
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Ya'll are going around in circles! #1: Take LiquidRulez drawing, and turn the pyramids 90 degrees, so that the flow splits itself into the channels. or #2: Take the last drawing by Balinju, and turn the pyramid upside down, on its tip: you read it right... the upside down pyramid will throw the coolant into turbulence. My $0.02 ... __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

05-05-2003, 12:58 AM	#1
Rami Saikali Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 45	My Waterblock.. ideas...suggestions.. Hey Okay well this is just a THOUGHT... i might not even go through with this if it proves to be too troublesome... I have never used autocad 2004 before and i just started trying it out so please excuse the TERRIBLE images. The water enters from both of the two inlets and pours down on a long rectangle shaped thing... to better illustrate the rectngle thing here is a side view: Its just a pyramid thing that the water gets forced on. It goes through inlets and goes through the channels towards the outlets no the side. I know a lot of things are missaligned thijs is just a quick render because i dont know crap about autocad. Suggestions much appriciated. Thanks --Excelsior P.S. anyone have an autocad tutorial..? I need help :::EDIT:: made images easier to see::/edit:: Last edited by Rami Saikali; 05-05-2003 at 01:32 AM.

05-05-2003, 02:07 AM	#2
LiquidRulez Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In Hell Posts: 322	I dont understand what the block is supposed to look like......the pics are hard to comprehend what youre trying to accomplish. Autocad is a very advanced proggie to try to learn for a novice.......from what I hear the learning curve is about 6 months average. Maybe you should try a simpler cad program(there are some nice free versions out there) until you get the basics down, and then adapt what you learn to Autocad. Maybe this will help in learning. I prefer to use Solidworks myself........gotta love it! See if you can whip up a better render of the block, and Im sure youll get many replies around here. We all love to give our opinions.....good or not __________________ GOt H20 ?

05-05-2003, 02:14 AM	#3
Rami Saikali Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 45	There is a pic someone from oc-forums.com drew for me

05-05-2003, 09:14 AM	#5
msv Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 336	Interesting idea. Though it looks em... big. Is it for P4 or Athlon? The walls (channels) at the sides seems to be longer than needed, I doubt that any heat spreads so far from center of block. OK, it´s out of scale in the first place, but I think You should keep this design small. regards Mikael S.

05-05-2003, 03:35 PM	#11
Rami Saikali Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 45	Thank you LiquidRulez i meant somethiing pretty close to what that is... but instead of the pyramids having the room for the channels cut in i meant for it to be just one long pyramid forcing the water down into the pyramid.. Basically just like liquidrules's pic but the gaps between pyramids would be one continous pyramid... i thought about it and i am thinking that it isnt such a great idea since it wouldnt cool as quickly as a WW... I just want a WW type block that i can make that might give a tad better results.. Suggestions appriciated

05-05-2003, 04:22 PM	#13
Rami Saikali Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 45	kind of... the bottom would be solid though.. the channels wouldnt stick out but rather be engraved.its basically EXACTLY like a WW EXCEPT that i am going to add the pyramid thing on top and remove the channels under the pyramid thing..

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