My Cascade's on the way. Current rig pics (3/4" pvc).

UberBlue · 07-09-2003, 05:30 PM

Hello! This is my first time posting at Pro/Forums. I'm usually a regular over at Overclockers.com. My writing skills are pretty limited. I'll try to get it out the best I can. If somethings not clear, just ask, and please do. I would like to get a question from everyone that views this post. This rig has taken up most of my free time for the past six months.

Since I've got a Cascade on the way, I figured there's no reason for 3/4" piping.

I originaly desinged this system for flow with a MCW462-UH, 2 BIX rads, and a Quiet one pump.

The Rads originaly were in parrallel, but I couldn't fit in two optical drives. I thought that going in series was going to kill my temps but it helped, I noticed a 2C drop.

Plumbing this thing was a total pain in the BUTT! Trying to get everything to line up perfect was pretty nerve wracking.

After a few weeksI noticed that the NB was getting really freakin hot, so I added a D-TEK Z-chip NB block. Putting it in required fabricating some new parts from PVC to plumb it in parrallel with the rest of the loop. I put a BIX micro after the NB block to dump any heat before it got back to the main loop. While I was at it I added a sight glass along the hard drive cage.

UberBlue · 07-09-2003, 05:39 PM

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UberBlue · 07-09-2003, 05:46 PM

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UberBlue · 07-09-2003, 06:00 PM

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airspirit · 07-09-2003, 06:02 PM

That. Kicks. Ass.

I've had a lot of fun with PVC in my own project, and I've seriously considered going this route with clear PVC in a future standalone project (in conjuction with a Prommy). While many will think that your setup is horribly ugly, there is something to be said about a near indestructable system ... no hoses to kink, no pipes to bend, no tubing to get cut, no clamp wear ... yummy.

bigben2k · 07-09-2003, 06:12 PM

Nice.

It wouldn't be my first choice, because I prefer to let the block have some flexibility, but I still like the PVC: it's so much easier to work with!

I'm considering using a combination of flexible tubing, and fittings: this might do it.

UberBlue · 07-09-2003, 06:23 PM

Thanks.

Bigben,
The cascade system will be a combo of PVC and Clearfex 60. Like you, I've had a sneaking suspicion of the block not being seated as well as it could be, but I'm paranoid like that.

As for being "eaiser" to work with... I took a whole week off from work, and it took most of that to cut all the pipe, dry fit everything, figuring out the gluing secuence, and puting it all together.

airspirit,
It's definately got the industrial thing going for it.

sn_85 · 07-09-2003, 06:44 PM

really nice work. i like the top. what kind of case is it?

UberBlue · 07-09-2003, 06:47 PM

AMS G-tower CF1009.

I LOVE THIS CASE!

sevisehda · 07-09-2003, 06:49 PM

I've got a few questions...We've all seen the numbers on how bad T's and elbows are in a system. 3/4in tubing is much less restrictive than 1/2in. So which would better, 3/4in rigid pipe w/ fittings. Or 1/2in flexable tubing w/o?

UberBlue · 07-09-2003, 07:00 PM

sevisehda,

I'm not sure. What I do know is that when I had the rads in parrallel, the water had so much velocity going into the WB, It would whistle.

At one point I had a pressure guage on it, and system pressure was 3.2 PSIG (+/-5%), wich according to the published flow/head chart, that's about 650gph

megatron · 07-09-2003, 07:03 PM

I have 3/4" vynaflex outside my case going to 1/2" inside. I am just waiting for my silicone marine sealant to dry off (overnight). I will have some pics (in a couple of weeks) but my location of parts is the same as the pics in my sig. I added the 3/4" tubing with a y-split around the NB after I added a z-chip. I can combine 3/4" and 1/2" tubing with the use of bulkhead connectors and brass barbs. I don't think my rig Is ever going to look anything more than a sprawling mess, so no price for the best look. I had to compromise somewhere and this was where.

bigben2k · 07-09-2003, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sevisehda
I've got a few questions...We've all seen the numbers on how bad T's and elbows are in a system. 3/4in tubing is much less restrictive than 1/2in. So which would better, 3/4in rigid pipe w/ fittings. Or 1/2in flexable tubing w/o?

The PVC piping's ID is larger than the spec. "3/4" PVC tubing actually has an ID of ~1 inch. Actually, the fittings have an ID of 1", so the tubing would be about 3/4" ID. Definitely not restrictive, and much better than 1/2" tubing, but we're already in the insignificant range.

UberBlue · 07-09-2003, 08:16 PM

But it looks cool, and efective at minimizing flow restrictions

megatron · 07-09-2003, 08:20 PM

It looks alot bigger than my 3/4" vynaflex! How do you get 1" into 1/4" block?!

UberBlue · 07-09-2003, 08:30 PM

With a modified 3/4"->1/2" MPT reducer.

07-09-2003, 06:02 PM	#5
airspirit Been /.'d... have you? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,986	That. Kicks. Ass. I've had a lot of fun with PVC in my own project, and I've seriously considered going this route with clear PVC in a future standalone project (in conjuction with a Prommy). While many will think that your setup is horribly ugly, there is something to be said about a near indestructable system ... no hoses to kink, no pipes to bend, no tubing to get cut, no clamp wear ... yummy. __________________ #!/bin/sh {who;} {last;} {pause;} {grep;} {touch;} {unzip;} mount /dev/girl -t {wet;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} echo yes yes yes {yes;} umount {/dev/girl;zip;} rm -rf {wet.spot;} {sleep;} finger: permission denied

07-09-2003, 06:12 PM	#6
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Nice. It wouldn't be my first choice, because I prefer to let the block have some flexibility, but I still like the PVC: it's so much easier to work with! I'm considering using a combination of flexible tubing, and fittings: this might do it. __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

07-09-2003, 08:20 PM	#15
megatron Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2002 Location: England Posts: 19	It looks alot bigger than my 3/4" vynaflex! How do you get 1" into 1/4" block?! __________________ My system specs and 3dmark2001se score Rad8500 bioses, UT2k3, GTA3 pages & more. Also watercooling endeavours. Last edited by megatron; 07-09-2003 at 08:27 PM.

07-09-2003, 06:23 PM	#7
UberBlue Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA Posts: 95	Thanks. Bigben, The cascade system will be a combo of PVC and Clearfex 60. Like you, I've had a sneaking suspicion of the block not being seated as well as it could be, but I'm paranoid like that. As for being "eaiser" to work with... I took a whole week off from work, and it took most of that to cut all the pipe, dry fit everything, figuring out the gluing secuence, and puting it all together. airspirit, It's definately got the industrial thing going for it.

07-09-2003, 06:44 PM	#8
sn_85 Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: H-town, TX Posts: 122	really nice work. i like the top. what kind of case is it?

07-09-2003, 06:47 PM	#9
UberBlue Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA Posts: 95	AMS G-tower CF1009. I LOVE THIS CASE!

07-09-2003, 06:49 PM	#10
sevisehda Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: NY Posts: 234	I've got a few questions...We've all seen the numbers on how bad T's and elbows are in a system. 3/4in tubing is much less restrictive than 1/2in. So which would better, 3/4in rigid pipe w/ fittings. Or 1/2in flexable tubing w/o?

07-09-2003, 07:00 PM	#11
UberBlue Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA Posts: 95	sevisehda, I'm not sure. What I do know is that when I had the rads in parrallel, the water had so much velocity going into the WB, It would whistle. At one point I had a pressure guage on it, and system pressure was 3.2 PSIG (+/-5%), wich according to the published flow/head chart, that's about 650gph

07-09-2003, 07:03 PM	#12
megatron Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2002 Location: England Posts: 19	I have 3/4" vynaflex outside my case going to 1/2" inside. I am just waiting for my silicone marine sealant to dry off (overnight). I will have some pics (in a couple of weeks) but my location of parts is the same as the pics in my sig. I added the 3/4" tubing with a y-split around the NB after I added a z-chip. I can combine 3/4" and 1/2" tubing with the use of bulkhead connectors and brass barbs. I don't think my rig Is ever going to look anything more than a sprawling mess, so no price for the best look. I had to compromise somewhere and this was where.

07-09-2003, 08:16 PM	#14
UberBlue Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA Posts: 95	But it looks cool, and efective at minimizing flow restrictions

07-09-2003, 08:30 PM	#16
UberBlue Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA Posts: 95	With a modified 3/4"->1/2" MPT reducer.

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