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11-22-2003, 03:17 AM | #1 |
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hi guys and girls
well this is my first session on the pro cooling forums. Anyway i recently found out that one of my firends has access to a cnc mill. He told me if i had a design in cad he could make it. I was wondering does anyone have a cad design they dont mind letting me have. Its for personal use only so dont be worried that im going to sell your design, its purely for experimental purposes only thanks in advance the_chad btw. im after an amd design, might be for a pelt later, but i dont mind if the design is a maze,jet or pin design etc. thanks again i have copper stock that is 50mm(width)x 12mm (thick)x what ever length you suggest
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11-29-2003, 04:58 PM | #2 |
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anyone, anyone at all?
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11-29-2003, 05:04 PM | #3 | |
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11-29-2003, 05:05 PM | #4 |
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Designing yourself is half the fun! Send us some designs you think might work so we can tweak them a little for ya. We like originality
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11-30-2003, 12:30 AM | #5 |
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Im thinking something like this
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11-30-2003, 02:21 AM | #6 |
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Hmmm? A maze style block. Before you have one made decide what type of CPU it will be used on and what temps you are trying to achieve. Think if you might try cooling with a Pelt or without. Basically plan what you will use it for and what you are trying to achieve. That’s cool that you have a friend that will give you access to a CNC.
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11-30-2003, 02:50 AM | #7 |
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thanks for your advie guys.
I'm after an socket A design, i have a barton 2500 atm but it might be used on a duron later (for a friend). I would like to achieve good temps but obviously i wont be able to achieve results like the cascade or direct die options. I just want decent performance as it is a experiment atm. I already have a jaron commercial block (in aus, from below-0). I just want to build another cheap setup and seeing i got the copper for dirt cheap (metal scrap, $8 aus, enough for 5 blocks or so) i though why not give it a go. I asked one of my friends that works with metal if they had a CNC mill at work and he said yeah, plus he can use it for free.
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11-30-2003, 03:56 AM | #8 |
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It is hard to make a channel of the type you have in mind wide enough not to restrict the flow too much. Here is a simpple design, easy to be machined. Let's hear what more experienced people than me have to say...
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11-30-2003, 03:58 AM | #9 |
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Sorry...I've forgooten to attach the screenshot...
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11-30-2003, 04:39 AM | #10 |
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would it be possible to machine that design from a 50mmx50mm piece of copper?, could i have a copper top soldered on instead of thge perspex/plexiglass top?
also could you use a perspex mounting plate? how's the performance on soemthing like this? btw tex707 thank you verymuch for your continued inspiration, you truly are a master of CAD
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11-30-2003, 09:23 AM | #11 | |
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You can solder a copper top but I think that plexi looks better... Could you, please, give some more details on what you mean by "perspex mounting plate"? This design that I have attached now should work fair, maybe even good...probably better than Danger Dan Maze 3. |
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11-30-2003, 09:31 PM | #12 |
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your last revision looks good...but from a manufacturing standpoint it is tough...not that it can't be done. what are you planning for the height of your hex shaped pins and what is the distance between each pin? You got to make sure you have enough room for a reasonable sized endmill to fit through...and all of this is porportional to the height of the pins.
Your previous design with the holes in the bottom of the channel is 100% easier to make...and will take much less time and tooling. |
12-01-2003, 12:26 AM | #13 | |
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tex i like your designs but i like your first one because it should be easy to machine.
Could your possibly send me the cad file of the 1st block in 50mmx80mm dimensions please Quote:
http://www.overclockers.com/tips793/index02.asp also would these designs work?
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12-01-2003, 12:26 AM | #14 |
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and this one
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If you have access to a good CNC machine, maybe you should try both designs. I can send you the APT file determining a toolpath...I'm really not sure whether you will be able to make any use of it, but we could give it a try. I've seen the article you are referring to...it's one of my old articles.....yes, the mounting plate is a good choice, but for flat cross-drilled W/Bs as shown. When you have a W/B of a type we are talking about now, with four holes and four mounting springs, all you need is an acrylic backplate with a little piece of rubber pad between it an a motherboard back, just to take load off the motherboard PC. |
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12-01-2003, 04:51 AM | #17 |
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Here is a screenshot showing how should the whole assembly look like....
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12-01-2003, 08:25 AM | #18 |
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Here's a simpler design...2mm diameter/depth holes instead of hex shaped pins...
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12-01-2003, 06:46 PM | #19 |
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Here is the whole machining process in 8 screenshots...the simulation worked fine....
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12-01-2003, 08:32 PM | #20 |
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Wish my mill worked like that! Also there is absolutely no reason to have that channel. Just leave it all open.
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$500,000 for a Haas??? Not even a new 5 axis off the showroom floor would be that much...One machine that I would love to have in my garage is a Haas mini-mill...full 3 axis with 10 station toolchanger for $30,000 |
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12-01-2003, 10:48 PM | #23 |
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Tex, one big problem I see with your designs is the barb placement, I would like to see you put some 1/8" wall tubing over those. Just put them right down the center far apart. pretty simple.
I have a mini-mill..... too bad its not the haas mini-mill Jon |
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Hell their $600,000 machine is only 15,000RPM! I doubt it would do it either. http://www.haascnc.com/products/defa...id=41&tstr=VMC Price list: http://www.haascnc.com/products/vmc/prcAll.asp I am sure you could special order a faster one though. |
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