2200 & R5

skyview · 11-08-2006, 09:57 PM

Looking for a how-to on enabling Raid 5 on a 2200.

Thanks In Advance!

Alvin

Phoenix32 · 11-09-2006, 01:15 AM

Sorry, but RAID5 requires 3 or more drives. Unless you modify the 2200 for 4 drives instead of 2, this is a no-can-do...

Hallis · 11-09-2006, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix32

Sorry, but RAID5 requires 3 or more drives. Unless you modify the 2200 for 4 drives instead of 2, this is a no-can-do...

Yup, what he said. Raid 1, 0, or JBOD only in the 2200. Dissapointing i know. Sell it to me and buy yourself a 4100.

Shane

blue68f100 · 11-09-2006, 06:59 AM

Depending on the MB you have to make a mod/chance to the BIOS setting. Then replace the cables to the drives. There is only 1 version of MB that I think this works on. There is a company that bought old Snap Parts. They sell the one that can be used for both. Need to find which HW version it is.

Don't recomend in, unless you don't mind turning it in to a DOOR STOP if something goes wrong.

Many have tried to turn the 1X00 models in to 2000. I thing only one was successful.

skyview · 11-09-2006, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue68f100

Depending on the MB you have to make a mod/chance to the BIOS setting. Then replace the cables to the drives. There is only 1 version of MB that I think this works on. There is a company that bought old Snap Parts. They sell the one that can be used for both. Need to find which HW version it is.

Don't recomend in, unless you don't mind turning it in to a DOOR STOP if something goes wrong.

Many have tried to turn the 1X00 models in to 2000. I thing only one was successful.

I am willing to try ...

Thanks !!!

blue68f100 · 11-09-2006, 12:40 PM

You need to make some debug cms to the bios for this conversion.

All of the conversion data I have is for converting a 2000 v2 (PN 70715023) to a 4000. I do not have a clue on what will happen if a 2200 is used.

You may need to use a larger power supply to handle the extra load.

There is one timer that soon as you change the model type it will auto reboot. I am not sure which one it is. I think it is "reboot". Once you make the model change it has to reboot for it to work. I think if you issue "reboot 0" turns auto reboot off. "reboot" with out any parameters reboots in 1 sec.

I would like to know what hardware version you are at before you make the changes.

PREFORM THE FOLLOWING COMMANDS AT YOU OWN RISK, NOT RESPONSEABLE FOR DAMAGE.

Once you are logged in and to the bebug section.

1. bios unlock
2. bios model 2 ( once you issue this it reboot unless turned off)
3. bios lock
4. reboot 5 ( if you disabled reboot)

This is all it needs to convert a 2200 into a 4000 if every thing works correctly.

Once the changes have been made, I recommend reload the OS.

Good Luck,

Please keep us updated with your progress, success or not.

Phoenix32 · 11-09-2006, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyview

I am willing to try ...

Thanks !!!

I gotta tell ya, if you are this determined, then I agree with what Shane said. Sell him your 2200 (he is looking for one) and get yourself a 4100.

Phoenix32 · 11-09-2006, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue68f100

You may need to use a larger power supply to handle the extra load.

No "you may need" or "maybe" about it. Forgetting the spin up power and even the circuit board power, 4 hard drives draw from 50 to 55 watts just in normal operation. The power supply is rated at 60 watts. Now figure in the circuit board and the near triple power draw of hard drives during spin up. Pretty easy math here. Just get yourself a 4 drive unit, you will be money ahead.

blue68f100 · 11-09-2006, 03:50 PM

It's a shame to destroy a perfectly good working 2200. If he would wait for a few more months he could install 1T drives and have more space. Even with raid 5 You still have a 1T LIMIT.

jontz · 11-09-2006, 06:31 PM

Besides, more drives means more money. I agree with blue...get yourself some of the new 750GB or 1TB drives coming out, since you can't get past 1TB with ANY snap server drive config, RAID 0, 1, or 5.

Phoenix32 · 11-09-2006, 06:46 PM

True enough and I cannot disagree, but my recommendation was based on his desire for a RAID5 setup...

skyview · 11-10-2006, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix32

True enough and I cannot disagree, but my recommendation was based on his desire for a RAID5 setup...

OK ... After careful consideration, I have decided to sell the 2200 and purchase a 4100. What's the going price for each model?

Thanks In Advance!

blue68f100 · 11-10-2006, 12:42 PM

It all depends on what size drives are in the unit and OS.

There are several users here on this forum in need of one. Shane, djontz, phoenix32.

skyview · 11-10-2006, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyview

OK ... After careful consideration, I have decided to sell the 2200/160G and purchase a 4100. What's the going price for each model?

Thanks In Advance!

I decided not to purchase a 4100 and look for something that supports 1T and RAID 5. Looking like a Snap 4000, Home Built machine using NASlite, or a MaxAttach 4100.

Where would I post a 2200/160 forsale ?

blue68f100 · 11-10-2006, 02:43 PM

You started this thread so you can use it, or Start a New Thread.

Know a little about a FreeNAS.com that is being developed.

re3dyb0y · 11-10-2006, 03:13 PM

Drop Hallis a PM, he's probably most likely to take it off your hands

There are a lot of limitations in with NASLite, but FreeNas seems very goood

Hallis · 11-10-2006, 03:39 PM

I got a PM and replied, And found the answer to the question in this thread after the fact. lol. I'll shoot him an offer right now.

Shane

Phoenix32 · 11-10-2006, 04:06 PM

LOL, Shane told me what he offered for the 2200. I watch ebay and so forth a lot. Given what I have seen there and the hassles that go with it, in my opinion he is a fool if he doesn't take it...

jontz · 11-10-2006, 06:57 PM

Is it a done deal then? I am interested, but I am not going to start a bidding war here...

DaveIsHere · 11-10-2006, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix32

LOL, Shane told me what he offered for the 2200. I watch ebay and so forth a lot. Given what I have seen there and the hassles that go with it, in my opinion he is a fool if he doesn't take it...

Hell, I cannot connect to mine, I may be ready to sell it soon.......

blue68f100 · 11-10-2006, 07:53 PM

It has to be on first

skyview · 11-10-2006, 08:01 PM

I am asking $300.00 for the unit. It's in excellent condition complete with original box, manuals, and software.

I bought this unit from a local computer store (well 30 miles away) this week. See the link below:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...3936&rd=1&rd=1

If you guys feel that I paid to much to begin with and asking too much, no problem. I am not in a situation where I have to sell the 2200 to purchase a 4000.

Thanks for looking

skyview · 11-10-2006, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hallis

Yup, what he said. Raid 1, 0, or JBOD only in the 2200. Dissapointing i know. Sell it to me and buy yourself a 4100.

Shane

Perhaps someone should update your Wiki hardware comparison page. It states the 2200 as supporiting R5.

Hallis · 11-10-2006, 09:17 PM

Yep It's wrong. I dont know who put the Wiki together but i'll see if i can edit that out. Raid 5 requires 3 or more disks.

Shane

Hallis · 11-10-2006, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyview

I am asking $300.00 for the unit. It's in excellent condition complete with original box, manuals, and software.

I bought this unit from a local computer store (well 30 miles away) this week. See the link below:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...3936&rd=1&rd=1

If you guys feel that I paid to much to begin with and asking too much, no problem. I am not in a situation where I have to sell the 2200 to purchase a 4000.

Thanks for looking

Andy what did i tell you about this auction a few days ago?

Shane

11-08-2006, 09:57 PM	#1
skyview Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: US Posts: 12	2200 & R5 Looking for a how-to on enabling Raid 5 on a 2200. Thanks In Advance! Alvin

11-09-2006, 01:15 AM	#2
Phoenix32 Thermophile Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yakima, WA Posts: 1,282	Re: 2200 & R5 Sorry, but RAID5 requires 3 or more drives. Unless you modify the 2200 for 4 drives instead of 2, this is a no-can-do...

11-09-2006, 06:59 AM	#4
blue68f100 Thermophile Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3,135	Re: 2200 & R5 Depending on the MB you have to make a mod/chance to the BIOS setting. Then replace the cables to the drives. There is only 1 version of MB that I think this works on. There is a company that bought old Snap Parts. They sell the one that can be used for both. Need to find which HW version it is. Don't recomend in, unless you don't mind turning it in to a DOOR STOP if something goes wrong. Many have tried to turn the 1X00 models in to 2000. I thing only one was successful. __________________ 1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5, 1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5, 1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820

11-09-2006, 12:40 PM	#6
blue68f100 Thermophile Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3,135	Re: 2200 & R5 You need to make some debug cms to the bios for this conversion. All of the conversion data I have is for converting a 2000 v2 (PN 70715023) to a 4000. I do not have a clue on what will happen if a 2200 is used. You may need to use a larger power supply to handle the extra load. There is one timer that soon as you change the model type it will auto reboot. I am not sure which one it is. I think it is "reboot". Once you make the model change it has to reboot for it to work. I think if you issue "reboot 0" turns auto reboot off. "reboot" with out any parameters reboots in 1 sec. I would like to know what hardware version you are at before you make the changes. PREFORM THE FOLLOWING COMMANDS AT YOU OWN RISK, NOT RESPONSEABLE FOR DAMAGE. Once you are logged in and to the bebug section. 1. bios unlock 2. bios model 2 ( once you issue this it reboot unless turned off) 3. bios lock 4. reboot 5 ( if you disabled reboot) This is all it needs to convert a 2200 into a 4000 if every thing works correctly. Once the changes have been made, I recommend reload the OS. Good Luck, Please keep us updated with your progress, success or not. __________________ 1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5, 1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5, 1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820

11-09-2006, 03:50 PM	#9
blue68f100 Thermophile Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3,135	Re: 2200 & R5 It's a shame to destroy a perfectly good working 2200. If he would wait for a few more months he could install 1T drives and have more space. Even with raid 5 You still have a 1T LIMIT. __________________ 1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5, 1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5, 1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820

11-09-2006, 06:31 PM	#10
jontz Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 385	Re: 2200 & R5 Besides, more drives means more money. I agree with blue...get yourself some of the new 750GB or 1TB drives coming out, since you can't get past 1TB with ANY snap server drive config, RAID 0, 1, or 5. __________________ Snap Server 4100, 4x120GB Seagate Drives, RAID 5, version 3.4.803

11-09-2006, 06:46 PM	#11
Phoenix32 Thermophile Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yakima, WA Posts: 1,282	Re: 2200 & R5 True enough and I cannot disagree, but my recommendation was based on his desire for a RAID5 setup...

11-10-2006, 12:42 PM	#13
blue68f100 Thermophile Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3,135	Re: 2200 & R5 It all depends on what size drives are in the unit and OS. There are several users here on this forum in need of one. Shane, djontz, phoenix32. __________________ 1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5, 1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5, 1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820

11-10-2006, 02:43 PM	#15
blue68f100 Thermophile Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3,135	Re: 2200 & R5 You started this thread so you can use it, or Start a New Thread. Know a little about a FreeNAS.com that is being developed. __________________ 1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5, 1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5, 1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820

11-10-2006, 03:13 PM	#16
re3dyb0y Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 909	Re: 2200 & R5 Drop Hallis a PM, he's probably most likely to take it off your hands There are a lot of limitations in with NASLite, but FreeNas seems very goood __________________ Snap Server Help Wiki - http://wiki.procooling.com/index.php/Snap_Server Snap Server 2200 v3.4.807 2x 250GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 w/ UNIDFC601512M Replacement Fan "Did you really think it would be that easy??" Other NAS's 1x NSLU2 w/ 512mb Corsair Flash Voyager Running Unslung 6.8b 1x NSLU2 w/ 8Gb LaCie Carte Orange Running Debian/NSLU2 Stable 4.0r0 250GB LaCie Ethernet Disk Running Windows XP Embedded

11-10-2006, 03:39 PM	#17
Hallis Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 469	Re: 2200 & R5 I got a PM and replied, And found the answer to the question in this thread after the fact. lol. I'll shoot him an offer right now. Shane __________________ Snap Servers: 1100 - 1x300gb Seagate Baracuda (SnapOS Version 3.4.807) 2200 - 2x80gb Maxtor (one dead) (SnapOS 4.0.860)

11-10-2006, 04:06 PM	#18
Phoenix32 Thermophile Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yakima, WA Posts: 1,282	Re: 2200 & R5 LOL, Shane told me what he offered for the 2200. I watch ebay and so forth a lot. Given what I have seen there and the hassles that go with it, in my opinion he is a fool if he doesn't take it...

11-10-2006, 06:57 PM	#19
jontz Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 385	Re: 2200 & R5 Is it a done deal then? I am interested, but I am not going to start a bidding war here... __________________ Snap Server 4100, 4x120GB Seagate Drives, RAID 5, version 3.4.803

11-10-2006, 07:53 PM	#21
blue68f100 Thermophile Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3,135	Re: 2200 & R5 It has to be on first __________________ 1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5, 1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5, 1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820

11-10-2006, 08:01 PM	#22
skyview Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: US Posts: 12	2200 For Sale I am asking $300.00 for the unit. It's in excellent condition complete with original box, manuals, and software. I bought this unit from a local computer store (well 30 miles away) this week. See the link below: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...3936&rd=1&rd=1 If you guys feel that I paid to much to begin with and asking too much, no problem. I am not in a situation where I have to sell the 2200 to purchase a 4000. Thanks for looking

11-10-2006, 09:17 PM	#24
Hallis Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 469	Re: 2200 & R5 Yep It's wrong. I dont know who put the Wiki together but i'll see if i can edit that out. Raid 5 requires 3 or more disks. Shane __________________ Snap Servers: 1100 - 1x300gb Seagate Baracuda (SnapOS Version 3.4.807) 2200 - 2x80gb Maxtor (one dead) (SnapOS 4.0.860)

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