Thermal Design on P4....?!?!?

[satanicoo]

Originally posted by hara
I find this conflicting :shrug:

Intel Pentium 4 2.40B GHz 
sSpec SL67Z in FC-PGA2 478-pin 
PackageOEM or Boxed? Both
CPUID = 0F24, Stepping = B0, Order Code = RK80532PE056512
Thermal Design Power = 57.8 W, Maximum Junction Temperature = 70 Degrees C
Absolute Maximum Core Voltage = 1.75 V
Multiplier = 18.00
Nominal (default) ratings:---Internal Clock Rate = 2400 MHz, FS Bus Frequency = 133 MHz---Core Voltage = 1.500 V
Actual Settings:---Internal Clock Rate = 2394 MHz, FS Bus Frequency = 133 MHz---Core Voltage = 1.500 V
Thermal Throttling Not Enabled
Estimated Actual Maximum Dissipation: 69.9 Watts

Maybe Intel states also a maximum dissipation value?

its 57.8 with trotle enabled. with it disabled, it goes to 69.9.

dont ask me why anyway

[Balinju]

Don't make fun of yourself. You're the only one debating this subject. Are you saying Everyone is wrong by disapproving these approximations:

Power is proportional to voltage squared
Power is proportional to clock frequency
The values given out by Intel of Power Dissipation of every processor (because they didn't take into account the temperature )

1. i am by no means making fun of myself
2. i am not saying that power is not proportional to clock frequency and to voltage squared
3. My debate is that power is not linearly proportion to voltage squared. It is in somekind proportion, but not LINEAR. Understood??? If not, forget everything.
4. If power was linearly proportion to voltage squared, this would imply that the cpu is an ohmic resistor. With all the transistors inside and all the other circuits, i think that it is by no means ohmic.

I could be wrong , i could be right

Anyone can help??

[hara]

I've researched this a bit further. If you don't believe the approximations look here:

http://www.overclockers.com/tips40/

Heat Production = CPU Spec Watts * (New FSB/Spec FSB) * ((New Volts/Spec Volts)^2)

[Balinju]

Originally posted by hara
I've researched this a bit further. If you don't believe the approximations look here:

http://www.overclockers.com/tips40/

ok you wanted it, there you got it.

look at the part: BAD NEWS.

You want to disproove a LAW??????

[hara]

Originally posted by Balinju
ok you wanted it, there you got it.

look at the part: BAD NEWS.

You want to disproove a LAW??????

Hehe, I nearly shit myself reading this.

Do you even have a vague idea what is moore's law?

http://arstechnica.com/paedia/m/moor...e-1.html#part1

http://arstechnica.com/paedia/m/moor...e-4.html#part2

http://arstechnica.com/paedia/m/moor...e-6.html#part3

Read a couple of these articles FIRST, then ask questions later. I suggest you cease spreading misinformation.

[Balinju]

of course i do, we can talk about this tomorrow at school, i don't have time now.

[utabintarbo]

You guys crack me up (hara & balinju). How long have you two been married?

[Balinju]

Originally posted by utabintarbo
You guys crack me up (hara & balinju). How long have you two been married?

lol for about 7 years

joking

[hara]

We never agree on anything

[Balinju]

Originally posted by hara
We never agree on anything

you are wrong, we agree on FMZ

[hara]

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[Balinju]

Originally posted by hara
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