Is my P4 overheating?

shurik54 · 03-24-2003, 10:18 PM

I have built my first PC two days ago. Everything has been working well so far (knock on wood), but cpu temperature concerns me a bit. When I boot up, PC Health feature in BIOS shows cpu temperature 44C. Then within the next 10 minutes temperature continues to rise rapidly until it reaches 52 degrees. After that it remains the same. I am not sure what's a normal operating temperature for P4, but I read some online posts where poeple would mention P4s runnning in low 40s without additional cooling. I am afraid that my P4 is running too hot. Here's my system:
Case: Antec Plus1080AMG 430W
Mobo: GA-8INXP E7205 Granite Bay
CPU: P4 2.53Ghz FSB 533
RAM: Corsair TWINX1024-2700LLPT 1GB
HD: Western Digital SE 80GB
Add in cards: AIW Radeon 9700 Pro, Audigy2
DVD-ROM: Lite-on XJ-HD166S

The system is currently cooled by 4 fans: Power supply fan, cpu fan (Intel Retail), and two antec exhaust 80mm fans on the back of the case. The case allows me to install two more intake fans and one more exhaust fan on the side. Of course I can add those fans, but does P4 normally need that many fans to keep it cool? Could this be a problem with the antec case or maybe cpu itself?
Please, advice on this thermal issue. I would be very greatful.

sn_85 · 03-24-2003, 10:48 PM

do you have intake fans? you didnt mention that you did, you only said that there was the option. thats probably your problem. if you dont have enough fans now, then take one of those exhaust fans and put it as an intake. then get yourself some more fans. 52C is still okay but its not in my comfort zone. you could also get a new cpu cooler, like the Zalman 7000Cu some name like that, its quiet and from reviews performs pretty darn well. but most ppl on here like water

shurik54 · 03-24-2003, 11:16 PM

Thanks for your advice. I'll install an intake fan, and hopefully it'll help to cool down my processor. And if it doesn't, I guess I'll have to look into the water to solve the problem :-) thanks again

Brad · 03-25-2003, 02:15 AM

I'd be surprised if the intake fan drops the temps by even 1C.

The intel retail hsf that comes with the 2.53ghz P4 normally keeps it just around 50C, you've got nothing to be worried about

shurik54 · 03-25-2003, 12:52 PM

Brad, you were 100% right. I have installed an intake fan (I didn't replace one of my exhaust fans but bought an additional one), and the temperature hasn't changed a bit. By the way, my motherboard came with a program that helps me to track cpu temperature via OS, and this software shows cpu temperature 46C. That' pretty serious difference! I hope that my BIOS is lying, because I would rather believe the lower temperature :-) Does BIOS show incorrect temperatures often? What numbers should I trust? Thanks

Brad · 03-25-2003, 02:48 PM

46C is even better, I just wouldn't worry about it at all. If you were going to overclock it then I'd suggest an slk900 with a 92mm fan, or even better of course would be to use water

shurik54 · 03-25-2003, 08:46 PM

Thank you much for your help, Brad.

Monster811 · 04-03-2003, 04:37 PM

if you want to lower your temperatures, clean up your wiring. I redid everything in my computer and my case temps dropped by 6 C.

shurik54 · 04-07-2003, 10:36 PM

Thanks for the tip. I have some of those wire ties, so I'll clean the jungle :-)

Monster811 · 04-08-2003, 02:55 PM

Some tips:

- If you have to run wires down the center of your case, run as few as possible and bundle them. Try to position them to the side of the airflow.

- There is a large amout of space behind your drive bays, remove the purple bracket and stow wires there.

- Try to run your cables along the side of your 3.5" bays. The round beaded cable ties can be threaded through the mounting holes to secure wires.

- Empty 5.5" bays are a great place to put spare PSU cables

- Use the space between the exhaust fan mounts and your motherboard for cables

03-24-2003, 10:18 PM	#1
shurik54 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Anytown Posts: 5	Is my P4 overheating? I have built my first PC two days ago. Everything has been working well so far (knock on wood), but cpu temperature concerns me a bit. When I boot up, PC Health feature in BIOS shows cpu temperature 44C. Then within the next 10 minutes temperature continues to rise rapidly until it reaches 52 degrees. After that it remains the same. I am not sure what's a normal operating temperature for P4, but I read some online posts where poeple would mention P4s runnning in low 40s without additional cooling. I am afraid that my P4 is running too hot. Here's my system: Case: Antec Plus1080AMG 430W Mobo: GA-8INXP E7205 Granite Bay CPU: P4 2.53Ghz FSB 533 RAM: Corsair TWINX1024-2700LLPT 1GB HD: Western Digital SE 80GB Add in cards: AIW Radeon 9700 Pro, Audigy2 DVD-ROM: Lite-on XJ-HD166S The system is currently cooled by 4 fans: Power supply fan, cpu fan (Intel Retail), and two antec exhaust 80mm fans on the back of the case. The case allows me to install two more intake fans and one more exhaust fan on the side. Of course I can add those fans, but does P4 normally need that many fans to keep it cool? Could this be a problem with the antec case or maybe cpu itself? Please, advice on this thermal issue. I would be very greatful.

03-25-2003, 02:15 AM	#4
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	I'd be surprised if the intake fan drops the temps by even 1C. The intel retail hsf that comes with the 2.53ghz P4 normally keeps it just around 50C, you've got nothing to be worried about __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-25-2003, 02:48 PM	#6
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	46C is even better, I just wouldn't worry about it at all. If you were going to overclock it then I'd suggest an slk900 with a 92mm fan, or even better of course would be to use water __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-24-2003, 10:48 PM	#2
sn_85 Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: H-town, TX Posts: 122	do you have intake fans? you didnt mention that you did, you only said that there was the option. thats probably your problem. if you dont have enough fans now, then take one of those exhaust fans and put it as an intake. then get yourself some more fans. 52C is still okay but its not in my comfort zone. you could also get a new cpu cooler, like the Zalman 7000Cu some name like that, its quiet and from reviews performs pretty darn well. but most ppl on here like water

03-24-2003, 11:16 PM	#3
shurik54 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Anytown Posts: 5	Thanks for your advice. I'll install an intake fan, and hopefully it'll help to cool down my processor. And if it doesn't, I guess I'll have to look into the water to solve the problem :-) thanks again

03-25-2003, 12:52 PM	#5
shurik54 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Anytown Posts: 5	Brad, you were 100% right. I have installed an intake fan (I didn't replace one of my exhaust fans but bought an additional one), and the temperature hasn't changed a bit. By the way, my motherboard came with a program that helps me to track cpu temperature via OS, and this software shows cpu temperature 46C. That' pretty serious difference! I hope that my BIOS is lying, because I would rather believe the lower temperature :-) Does BIOS show incorrect temperatures often? What numbers should I trust? Thanks

03-25-2003, 08:46 PM	#7
shurik54 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Anytown Posts: 5	Thank you much for your help, Brad.

04-03-2003, 04:37 PM	#8
Monster811 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northeast US Posts: 40	if you want to lower your temperatures, clean up your wiring. I redid everything in my computer and my case temps dropped by 6 C.

04-07-2003, 10:36 PM	#9
shurik54 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Anytown Posts: 5	Thanks for the tip. I have some of those wire ties, so I'll clean the jungle :-)

04-08-2003, 02:55 PM	#10
Monster811 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northeast US Posts: 40	Some tips: - If you have to run wires down the center of your case, run as few as possible and bundle them. Try to position them to the side of the airflow. - There is a large amout of space behind your drive bays, remove the purple bracket and stow wires there. - Try to run your cables along the side of your 3.5" bays. The round beaded cable ties can be threaded through the mounting holes to secure wires. - Empty 5.5" bays are a great place to put spare PSU cables - Use the space between the exhaust fan mounts and your motherboard for cables

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