Condensation Prevention Theory

SonixOS · 06-19-2002, 02:37 PM

humm. my friend had this idea i want to share with you all and see if its possible to implement.
He uses watercooling system with a peltier so his idea to prevent condensation is to overclock the processor so it would get soo hot that it would equal or be above ambient temperature. I think that would prevent condensation on the processor itself but i doubt it would prevent it on the peltier. Any ideas?

zoson · 06-19-2002, 02:44 PM

Sonix. If you use a peltier that can barely handle the load of your cpu such that it cannot produce temperatures below ambient, you will not get any condensation anywhere. But, this is not really effective use of the peltier and would put a lot of stress on it, and may cause it to fail.
-Zoson

Hixup · 06-19-2002, 06:48 PM

i get what your trying to say... if you make the Peltier work hard enought it wont have the power to get cold enough to do that i guess. doesnt sound like a good idea to push something that hard to save a coupple bucks. just do it the normal way

SonixOS · 06-19-2002, 07:07 PM

i'm worried about the stuff leaking and letting water particles through after a long period of time.

Hixup · 06-19-2002, 07:22 PM

well every once in a while you can take your computer. dust it off and make shure there is no water. a computer needs to be cleaned every once and a while, you can get a lot of dust in one of those.

SonixOS · 06-19-2002, 07:30 PM

umm i was talkin about the sealant

Hixup · 06-19-2002, 07:41 PM

i r smartz! i dont think you really have to worry about if you do a good job at it.

cmfic · 08-11-2002, 07:52 PM

Not even close, that idea defeats the whole idea of cooling the damn cpu. think about it. If you do things "right" you won't have the problem. No air in or out of the enclosure, no condensation.
Good Luck!!!!!!!!

000 · 08-18-2002, 04:03 PM

I found out another way to prevent condensation problems (notice I said the problems, not condensation).

My latest attempt to keep condensation away with my system didn't work (with my water chiller setup). As I was sitting in disgust about the failure of the $36 worth of neoprene I had carved out, I decided to see if kept everything cold enough to freeze the condensation if maybe ice doesn't conduct electricity.

So I let my cooler get the temperatures down to -28c (with the computer off) and put a fan blowing on the insides of my computer (to help evaporate anything on the outside).

I turned it on and it worked fine, now this will only work if your cooling solution is able to keep things very cold even when running full speed (which luckily mine can keep things at -16.5c full speed), otherwise your ice will turn back into water and you'll have the problems again.

Anyhow I though I would share my discovery with ya'll.

-Sidney

06-19-2002, 02:37 PM	#1
SonixOS Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 282	Condensation Prevention Theory humm. my friend had this idea i want to share with you all and see if its possible to implement. He uses watercooling system with a peltier so his idea to prevent condensation is to overclock the processor so it would get soo hot that it would equal or be above ambient temperature. I think that would prevent condensation on the processor itself but i doubt it would prevent it on the peltier. Any ideas? __________________ -sonix- ======================= Antec SX830 Abit KR7A-133 MSI Geforce3 Ti200 VT128 TV-IN and TV-OUT Sound Blaster Audigy Linksys LNE100 V2.0 Toshiba DVD Drive 40x/16x IBM Deskstar 60GXP 60gig Watercooled http://www.sonixnet.tk =======================

06-19-2002, 02:44 PM	#2
zoson Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: X Posts: 204	Sonix. If you use a peltier that can barely handle the load of your cpu such that it cannot produce temperatures below ambient, you will not get any condensation anywhere. But, this is not really effective use of the peltier and would put a lot of stress on it, and may cause it to fail. -Zoson __________________ Core i7 930 @ 4254Hz 22x193 \| ASUS R3E 901 BIOS \| 12GB Mushkin Blackline 3x4GB @ 1547MHz 7-8-7-24-1N \| Lian Li PC-A10B 2x EVGA GTX275 SLI @ 720/1266/1566 \| 2x 80GB Intel X25-M G2 SSD Raid 0 \| 3x 1TB Samsung Spinpoint 7.2K Raid 5 \| Corsair 950TX H2O \| Enzotech Sapphire Rev.A \| EK-FB RE3 \| Swiftech - 2x MCW60/GTX275 Unisink, MCP655b, MCRes Micro.v2 \| 3x HWLabs SR1-120 あなたの神への弓 Time isn't wasted, when you're gettin' wasted.

06-19-2002, 06:48 PM	#3
Hixup Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: By the computer Posts: 51	i get what your trying to say... if you make the Peltier work hard enought it wont have the power to get cold enough to do that i guess. doesnt sound like a good idea to push something that hard to save a coupple bucks. just do it the normal way __________________ AMD Athlon XP 1900+ Water Cooled Soyo SY-K7V Dragon plus! 512 DDR radoen 9500 Soft Mod Give Me Money

06-19-2002, 07:07 PM	#4
SonixOS Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 282	i'm worried about the stuff leaking and letting water particles through after a long period of time. __________________ -sonix- ======================= Antec SX830 Abit KR7A-133 MSI Geforce3 Ti200 VT128 TV-IN and TV-OUT Sound Blaster Audigy Linksys LNE100 V2.0 Toshiba DVD Drive 40x/16x IBM Deskstar 60GXP 60gig Watercooled http://www.sonixnet.tk =======================

06-19-2002, 07:22 PM	#5
Hixup Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: By the computer Posts: 51	well every once in a while you can take your computer. dust it off and make shure there is no water. a computer needs to be cleaned every once and a while, you can get a lot of dust in one of those. __________________ AMD Athlon XP 1900+ Water Cooled Soyo SY-K7V Dragon plus! 512 DDR radoen 9500 Soft Mod Give Me Money

06-19-2002, 07:30 PM	#6
SonixOS Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 282	umm i was talkin about the sealant __________________ -sonix- ======================= Antec SX830 Abit KR7A-133 MSI Geforce3 Ti200 VT128 TV-IN and TV-OUT Sound Blaster Audigy Linksys LNE100 V2.0 Toshiba DVD Drive 40x/16x IBM Deskstar 60GXP 60gig Watercooled http://www.sonixnet.tk =======================

06-19-2002, 07:41 PM	#7
Hixup Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: By the computer Posts: 51	i r smartz! i dont think you really have to worry about if you do a good job at it. __________________ AMD Athlon XP 1900+ Water Cooled Soyo SY-K7V Dragon plus! 512 DDR radoen 9500 Soft Mod Give Me Money

08-11-2002, 07:52 PM	#8
cmfic Banned Troll Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: North Central Washington State Posts: 26	Not even close, that idea defeats the whole idea of cooling the damn cpu. think about it. If you do things "right" you won't have the problem. No air in or out of the enclosure, no condensation. Good Luck!!!!!!!!

08-18-2002, 04:03 PM	#9
000 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: TX Posts: 54	I found out another way to prevent condensation problems (notice I said the problems, not condensation). My latest attempt to keep condensation away with my system didn't work (with my water chiller setup). As I was sitting in disgust about the failure of the $36 worth of neoprene I had carved out, I decided to see if kept everything cold enough to freeze the condensation if maybe ice doesn't conduct electricity. So I let my cooler get the temperatures down to -28c (with the computer off) and put a fan blowing on the insides of my computer (to help evaporate anything on the outside). I turned it on and it worked fine, now this will only work if your cooling solution is able to keep things very cold even when running full speed (which luckily mine can keep things at -16.5c full speed), otherwise your ice will turn back into water and you'll have the problems again. Anyhow I though I would share my discovery with ya'll. -Sidney

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