Er... my CPU reboots when switching a CC on

Xel · 03-14-2002, 02:15 AM

Whenever I flip the switch to on for my UV Cold Cathode light my computer reboots... any idea as to what is causing this?

Jason-Pro · 03-14-2002, 02:17 AM

what size psu you running? and whats all on it. could be the problem

Xel · 03-14-2002, 02:30 AM

I have a 350w power supply and 5 fans... and it works when I turn off 2 of the fans.

I thought a 350w power supply could handle more than 3 fans and a CC light? :shrug:

Jason-Pro · 03-14-2002, 02:32 AM

well i guess you got a cheap psu

get a antec 400w or something decent and youll have no problems

Brad · 03-14-2002, 03:05 AM

your psu sucks

you should look at an antec 400w, or CWT 420, or one in the directron 3 fan series. Just DO NOT buy an enermax

WebMasta33 · 03-14-2002, 08:02 AM

What's wrong with enermax? Mine's worked great.

Jason-Pro · 03-14-2002, 12:37 PM

webmasta enermax are the worse psu's. i just sold my enermax 651 cause its a pile

decodeddiesel · 03-14-2002, 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by WebMasta33
What's wrong with enermax? Mine's worked great.

Ugh, look at your 5v line values, I bet they are out of spec, especially if you are on a T-Bird system above 1.4. I have found that at high OC's if the 5v line drops below 4.8 you start getting problems.

Brad · 03-14-2002, 09:03 PM

then if you do a mod to it, your 13v line will be too high (yes I did type 13v)

WebMasta33 · 03-14-2002, 10:07 PM

3.3v @ 3.47v
5v @ 4.92v
12v @ 12.24v

I can't believe that I've been here that long, and never knew about the enermax = crap.... Oh well, I don't have the money right now to change it out.

iceheart · 03-15-2002, 01:12 AM

uh. I'd say those voltages are perfectly fine, but that's just me...

Brad · 03-15-2002, 04:26 AM

those are actually quite good, did you buy one of the ones with the variable fan?

Butcher · 03-15-2002, 07:39 AM

My enermax couldn't keep the 5v line above 4.5V on a 1.35G tbird... they suck. And ph's caught fire - you have been warned

cristoff · 03-15-2002, 09:37 AM

thats funny butcher... hehe....

Leuf · 03-15-2002, 09:38 AM

FWIW, on my 1.2@1400 with enermax 350w the 5v runs at 5.03 idle and drops to 4.95 under load, while the 12v idles at 12.43 and rises to 12.54 under load.

resago · 03-15-2002, 10:08 AM

can someone point me to the enermax mod, I could actually use the extra voltage on the 12V line(running a pelt on it)

WebMasta33 · 03-15-2002, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad
those are actually quite good, did you buy one of the ones with the variable fan?

It's just a 365watt Enermax. It does have a fan header that connects the the mobo that adjusts the speed of the fan, but that's it.

Jason-Pro · 03-15-2002, 12:54 PM

by the way Phs enermax really did start on fire

Triton · 03-15-2002, 09:50 PM

I think one of the problems people are experiencing with larger power supplies like the enermax 650 is not the supply but their homes. I know I've got a lot of equipment plugged into the walls of my home that are drawing power. And since it's a 30 year old home with on 15amp breakers I think that's where my main power problem lies. And that 15 amp breaker is spread across 3 rooms. I won't deny the 5volt rail some of the 350 enermaxes have. But I think not enough has been looked into regarding how much load people are placing on their home wiring. I don't think anyone thought someone would be using as much electricity as I do in 1969, the year my house was built.

Triton · 03-15-2002, 09:51 PM

I started thinking about this because I downgraded from an enermax 650 to an antec 400. The 650 definitely can provide enough power. But I could tell it was causing some kinda of power problem since my computer wouldn't boot at the start up unless I unplugged the CDROMS. After I changed power supplies I haven't had any more problems. I tried a cheapo 300watt enlight and that didn't cut it either. I would have picked up a smaller enermax but the antec was on sale at CompUSA. Again I think part of the problem with power supplies is the demand people are placing on their old homes. I would like to hear from people living in new homes with wiring up to current code to see if they have problems with enermax or large watt power supplies. I'm guessing that they don't. Maybe I'm wrong but it's just a thought.

WebMasta33 · 03-15-2002, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Triton
And since it's a 30 year old home with on 15amp breakers I think that's where my main power problem lies. And that 15 amp breaker is spread across 3 rooms.

Yup... When we finished the basement to my house (where I reside) we put in 20 amp circuts per room. Just punched a few more plates outa the circut breaker and hooked 'em up. But then, every other socket in my basement is wired for Cat5+Cable+2 phone line+2 power connectors

I can put my computer anywhere

Brad · 03-16-2002, 12:17 AM

my room has 35a total going to it, and my dad has a max of 75a to his workshop, all 240v by the way

resago · 03-18-2002, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by resago
can someone point me to the enermax mod, I could actually use the extra voltage on the 12V line(running a pelt on it)

Brad · 03-19-2002, 12:27 AM

just type in 'r82 enermax' into google

Pyrotechnic · 03-19-2002, 01:15 AM

enermax sucks, period. dont let the looks fool you, it may look good and have a quality feel, but on the inside it's just another crappy PSU. my 5v has gonna down to 4.54v at times, with the system nearly frozen.

i could volt mod it , but that would raise all the voltages and the 12v line is @ 12.30 right now and it will be 13v or so with the mod. AVOID ENERMAX AT ALL COSTS !!!!!!!

03-14-2002, 02:15 AM	#1
Xel Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 46	Er... my CPU reboots when switching a CC on Whenever I flip the switch to on for my UV Cold Cathode light my computer reboots... any idea as to what is causing this?

03-14-2002, 03:05 AM	#5
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	your psu sucks you should look at an antec 400w, or CWT 420, or one in the directron 3 fan series. Just DO NOT buy an enermax __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-14-2002, 08:02 AM	#6
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03-14-2002, 09:03 PM	#9
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	then if you do a mod to it, your 13v line will be too high (yes I did type 13v) __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-14-2002, 10:07 PM	#10
WebMasta33 Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nebraska Posts: 526	3.3v @ 3.47v 5v @ 4.92v 12v @ 12.24v I can't believe that I've been here that long, and never knew about the enermax = crap.... Oh well, I don't have the money right now to change it out. __________________ ========== --Soyo KT333 DRAGON Ultra (Platinum Edition) --AMD 1.4 @ 1.54 (11x) --768mb of PC2100 (@140FSB) --Asus v8200 GeForce3 @ 210/490 --Maxtor 40gb Quiet + 2 IBM 40gb 60GXPs (removable) + 8gb WD --Audigy --Maze 3, DD Gf3 block, 2x BIX, Eheim1250 ===========

03-14-2002, 02:17 AM	#2
Jason-Pro Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manitowoc, Wisconsin Posts: 217	what size psu you running? and whats all on it. could be the problem

03-14-2002, 02:30 AM	#3
Xel Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 46	I have a 350w power supply and 5 fans... and it works when I turn off 2 of the fans. I thought a 350w power supply could handle more than 3 fans and a CC light? :shrug:

03-14-2002, 02:32 AM	#4
Jason-Pro Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manitowoc, Wisconsin Posts: 217	well i guess you got a cheap psu get a antec 400w or something decent and youll have no problems

03-14-2002, 12:37 PM	#7
Jason-Pro Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manitowoc, Wisconsin Posts: 217	webmasta enermax are the worse psu's. i just sold my enermax 651 cause its a pile

03-15-2002, 01:12 AM	#11
iceheart Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Yonder Posts: 318	uh. I'd say those voltages are perfectly fine, but that's just me...

03-15-2002, 04:26 AM	#12
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	those are actually quite good, did you buy one of the ones with the variable fan? __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-15-2002, 07:39 AM	#13
Butcher Thermophile Join Date: May 2001 Location: UK Posts: 1,064	My enermax couldn't keep the 5v line above 4.5V on a 1.35G tbird... they suck. And ph's caught fire - you have been warned __________________ Once upon a time, in a land far far away...

03-15-2002, 09:37 AM	#14
cristoff Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Posts: 185	thats funny butcher... hehe.... __________________ fr33t3chi3

03-15-2002, 09:38 AM	#15
Leuf Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 56	FWIW, on my 1.2@1400 with enermax 350w the 5v runs at 5.03 idle and drops to 4.95 under load, while the 12v idles at 12.43 and rises to 12.54 under load.

03-15-2002, 10:08 AM	#16
resago Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: state of denial Posts: 488	can someone point me to the enermax mod, I could actually use the extra voltage on the 12V line(running a pelt on it) __________________ 2.4Ghz Compaq Workstation 2.8Ghz Custom 2700+ Custom still running 2000!!!! Help with Coding www.resago.com

03-15-2002, 12:54 PM	#18
Jason-Pro Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manitowoc, Wisconsin Posts: 217	by the way Phs enermax really did start on fire

03-15-2002, 09:50 PM	#19
Triton Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Union City, CA Posts: 78	I think one of the problems people are experiencing with larger power supplies like the enermax 650 is not the supply but their homes. I know I've got a lot of equipment plugged into the walls of my home that are drawing power. And since it's a 30 year old home with on 15amp breakers I think that's where my main power problem lies. And that 15 amp breaker is spread across 3 rooms. I won't deny the 5volt rail some of the 350 enermaxes have. But I think not enough has been looked into regarding how much load people are placing on their home wiring. I don't think anyone thought someone would be using as much electricity as I do in 1969, the year my house was built.

03-15-2002, 09:51 PM	#20
Triton Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Union City, CA Posts: 78	I started thinking about this because I downgraded from an enermax 650 to an antec 400. The 650 definitely can provide enough power. But I could tell it was causing some kinda of power problem since my computer wouldn't boot at the start up unless I unplugged the CDROMS. After I changed power supplies I haven't had any more problems. I tried a cheapo 300watt enlight and that didn't cut it either. I would have picked up a smaller enermax but the antec was on sale at CompUSA. Again I think part of the problem with power supplies is the demand people are placing on their old homes. I would like to hear from people living in new homes with wiring up to current code to see if they have problems with enermax or large watt power supplies. I'm guessing that they don't. Maybe I'm wrong but it's just a thought. Last edited by Triton; 03-15-2002 at 09:54 PM.

03-16-2002, 12:17 AM	#22
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	my room has 35a total going to it, and my dad has a max of 75a to his workshop, all 240v by the way __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-19-2002, 12:27 AM	#24
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	just type in 'r82 enermax' into google __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-19-2002, 01:15 AM	#25
Pyrotechnic Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 240	enermax sucks, period. dont let the looks fool you, it may look good and have a quality feel, but on the inside it's just another crappy PSU. my 5v has gonna down to 4.54v at times, with the system nearly frozen. i could volt mod it , but that would raise all the voltages and the 12v line is @ 12.30 right now and it will be 13v or so with the mod. AVOID ENERMAX AT ALL COSTS !!!!!!!

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