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Unread 10-24-2006, 06:51 AM   #1251
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Hi all !

Skimming though this thread, i understand that to update a 1000 or 2000 Snap Server you need :

- Digital Dolly (for windows or linux)
- a new hd you want to upgrade with
- and an image file that contains the boot data for the server.

The latest point is a rare file. In the posts reffered to as snap1000. rar and snap2000.rar

You copy the contents of the rar file with DD onto the new drive (following the desciption in the Wiki) and you are golden..

but..

Where can i get those .rar files ? Are they somewhere up for download ? If so, where can i find them ?

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Unread 10-24-2006, 06:56 AM   #1252
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actually in the early 1000's and in all 2000's (not 2200) the OS is stored on Flash Ram and all you need to do is make sure you have OS 3.4.805 or greater and throw in large drives and you're good to go.

The later 1000's, 1100's, 2200's you have to image the HDD.

Basically if you can pull the hard drives out and the unit still boots and you can access the web interface then you've got a Flash Ram model. If not then you just follow the copy HD to HD instructions, no need for an image file.

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Unread 10-25-2006, 11:33 AM   #1253
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i have buy an quantum snap server (15g, firmware 3.1.603, hardware 3.1.1, bios 2.1.364) who the disk is out...
i have already change the orignal disk Quantum for an IBM 60Go...
it work perfectly but i want for an greater harddisk (maxtor diamondmax 10 250go)

i have found an image file 'snap2200.bin', put it (i have knoppix and dd utility) on maxtor harddrive (other harddrive have the same problem), connect the harddrive in my snap et turn on... but it doesn't boot ("Waiting for software download to the Snap! Server IP Address ")

i don't understand... i think it's my image file but...

someone can help me ?

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Unread 10-25-2006, 11:45 AM   #1254
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Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

Are you using a Snap Server 2200? you never mentioned which server it is specifically.

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Unread 10-25-2006, 12:26 PM   #1255
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actually, in the window who the bios number is write, the model is 2000 series...
the .bin for a 2000 serie and a 2200 it's not the same ?
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Unread 10-25-2006, 12:49 PM   #1256
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a 2200 is still a 2000 series machine, there are many differences so that really doesnt mean much, The 2200 img SHOULD work. I believe you could image the 2'nd drive ontp the new one and it should work as well. David will have to answer this one since he has a 2200. But i believe that it will copy the OS to Both drives just in case.

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Unread 10-25-2006, 01:09 PM   #1257
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actually i have only one disk plug on my snap... at the beginning it's a 1000 series (v2, it doesn't start without disk), i have modify in config/debug to make a 2000 series for test RAID... but i haven't got 2x250go disk... so i want actually plug only one, an maxtor 250go...
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Unread 10-25-2006, 03:03 PM   #1258
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Well I wish I had a dollar for every one that trys to convert the smaller unit into 2 drive units. If you are getting that 1-2 led pattern (looking for IP) after changing the bios, You may have just created a door stop. I have one here that a user dropped off. There is no way that I have found to get past it. I have some new hardware that can now broadcast / DHCP server. When ever I get a some free time I may try it again. But don't hold your breath, my list is long. Your only grase is that you did not unlock the BIOS. If you unlocked and made the change, and the unit rebooted, your SOL. You can now sell it for parts.

There is a hardware difference between the 1000 and 2000. Now there is a 2000 v that is the used in both 2000 and 4000, but these are scarce.

The 2200 requires a image file, The 2000 does not. The popup window (SnapAppliance) for Vitals reports all 2 drive models as 2000.
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Unread 10-25-2006, 03:28 PM   #1259
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Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

I have a new-in-box Quantum SNAP M1000 that is the same type unit you described here (your dead one) that I am about to put on ebay (damn nice unit with all the manuals and CDs etc).

OS - 2.3.417 (US) (I have 3.4.805/807 and 4.0.860 I can put on it)
Hardware - 3.1.1
BIOS - 2.1.364

If you want to make me an offer... But better do it fast I am putting it up this afternoon...
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Unread 10-26-2006, 02:33 AM   #1260
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...euh i'm write 2000 series but this is a 1000 series like this
http://www.northwesttechnical.com/in..._image&pID=576

my snap require an image but the mine is 3.1.603 (work fine) but i want to try a 3.1.805 firmware for install an 250go harddisk

i have found only 2200.bin ( 3.1.805) but... i don't understand why my harddisk don't boot... i have tried an another harddisk, a toshiba mk1517gap 10Go, it's the same...

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Unread 10-26-2006, 03:56 AM   #1261
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i progress. i installed 3.1.805 (this time, i use .sup file, not an image) on my toshiba mk1517gap harddrive.
it works fine. i copy disk (toshiba) to disk (maxtor diamondmax 10 250go) with knoppix and the dd utility.
now, when i plus the maxtor on my snap, led patterns indicate "System is running a performing a check operation"
how long that will last ?
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Unread 10-26-2006, 07:48 AM   #1262
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Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

On the 1000 v2 it stores everything on the HD like a 2200 and 1100. The earlier v1 have flashram so you do not need a image file. But I must admit the 1X00 are strange. I do not know why the 1000 image does not work on some. It has to be a hardware rev, but I havn't a clue on what changed. And the 1100 I have is locked in waiting for IP, from someone making a bios change.
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Unread 10-29-2006, 07:29 AM   #1263
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I folks!.... i was searching for info about the snap! server 1000 and found this cool page.... i think im very lucky for that!....

Well, you see, some weeks ago i bought an used snap server but when i turn it on i found that the disk (30GB) was damaged (when it spins bumps and makes scary crackling-buzzing metallic sounds so im sure its lost).
This week finally i managed to ADQUIRE a good HD (WD 80GB) but i have no idea of what can i do to make the snap work.

I change the disk, plug the server and wait
the HD start to spin, then makes some readings and the SYSTEM led turns green, DISK led turns orange and LINK led turns green, and NET stays off.
Then SYSTEM and DISK leds start flashing slowly.

Now im reading here something about the need of a special Os and a program to manage the server. Can you explain me about it, just tell me where to find more info or the "snap for dummies book"?
And.... if someone has the IMG file.... i appreciate it. (i cant find it anyplace!).

i appreciate your help!

here is some info about the snap

FRONT MESSAGE SAYS SNAP! SERVER
HD STICKER SAYS QUANTUM FIREBALLIct15 30
A STICKER LOCATED INSIDE ON THE ALUMINUM CASE SAYS QNTM-30 REV E
ANOTHER STICKER BOTTOM (OUTSIDE) SAYS 70700061-002
PRINT onBOARD SAYS 70715027-003 REV-B

THANKS!.

Sorry about my bad english.... I just learning it.
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Unread 11-03-2006, 03:04 PM   #1264
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... the end...
i have change my old disk... (the maxtor diamondmax 10 250go for seagate 7200.10 250go), installed 3.4.805 and... it works perfectly !!! yeah !!!!!!!!
just a problem... the language it's english and i'm french so if you an idea to change it...
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Unread 11-03-2006, 03:31 PM   #1265
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Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

There is language settings in the snap setup. But the extra language set may not be installed. Check with re3dyb0y, he may beable to help you. I think he had the same problem early on.
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Unread 11-03-2006, 03:34 PM   #1266
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Did i...?

I've had that many things....

I dont know...

ARRGH
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Unread 11-03-2006, 04:53 PM   #1267
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It's been over a year since you had to do it. I think you used putty to copy the directory with the lang sets.

There is something on this on Adaptec Knowledge base.

I looked at my Langage Support Settings I have 5 options, and 3 code sets.

Take a look at this post

http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...light=language
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Unread 11-04-2006, 04:14 AM   #1268
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Hah

You've got a better memory than me david!

But yeah, i do remember it now
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Unread 11-04-2006, 04:59 AM   #1269
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Just to clear some info about the 1+2 LED problem. This will also occur if the new drive has incorrect jumper settings (master/slave/cable select) Different versions of the OS handle different jumper setting. Normally on the 1000 to 2200 series the setting should be master on all drives, even if you mod a 1000 to handle 2 drives.

And regarding to the boot rom and exchange drives without clone or copy your originally drive. This is only apply on the Quantum & some versions of the Snap Appliance units. None of the units from Adaptec's takeover uses the os on Flash/rom.

Also there is a restriction on how large disk you can use in different revision's
Rev1 handle up to 130GB drives without any serious modification's
Rev2 handle atleast 250GB drives, have not tested with larger yet on this.
Rev2.1 Handle atleast 400GB drive without modifications to hardware

The easiest way to expand your drive in the snap is just to clone the orignally drive with EG. Winhex or similar, you only need to copy the first 23658793 Sectors of the drive. (this contains the os part)
Exchange the drive boot it up (remember to change jumpers if needed)
it will show up as a failed drive. Enter the Debug page
http://snapserverxxxx/config/debug

the commands here depends a bit on model and how many drives you are using.
to check the physical adress of your drive use the command "in de" without the ""

then to max out the new size on the drive just type:
co de fo 10000 /reinit /nocore
or in full text, same command as above:
config debug format 10000 /reinit /nocore

The 10000 in this example is the physical adress for one drive it can be 10008 etc..
just use the IN DE command tho check it out.

These are my exp at the moment.
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Unread 11-04-2006, 07:34 AM   #1270
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The /nocore is not needed on most units. It's only needed on 4x00 models where you are mixing drives due to a failure.

Yes to Adaptec current line. But most of the units coming through here are older models.

Flashram models are: 1000v1, 2000, 4000, 4100. Which were made by Meridian and Quantium. And some Dell's 705n.

You will also find that the short cmd works more often than the long. Don't no why but there has been cases were the long would not work.

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you only need to copy the first 23658793 Sectors of the drive
What are you copying the whole drive or 25 meg will boot the unit.
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Unread 11-04-2006, 11:07 AM   #1271
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in the langage menu, i have only 1 choice, english...
i re-update the snap with my snap.sup file and now i have 5 choice, and french langage.
thanks a lot !!!
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Unread 11-21-2006, 02:42 AM   #1272
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Can someone please send me the SnapOS Version 3.4.807?

Using a Snap Server 4000 but cannot detect my new HDD of 320GB.

If you have one, really appreciate if you could send it to

mlt788 at hotmail.com

PLEASE !!
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Unread 11-21-2006, 06:57 AM   #1273
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Unread 12-21-2006, 04:11 AM   #1274
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Hi - another snap noob here.
I just received a snap 1000 that looks like someone attached the wrong powersupply.
There is a charred smd device labelled FB2 by the power plug on the board. Anyone know if this is more than just a fuse/jumper - a quick look at the design make me think that is all it is but i'm not sure. The board says it is a 70715027-004 rev a. I'm not sure if this will need the drive image or is a self loading unit.
Also - anyone know what the header labelled j8 isp is for?
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Unread 12-21-2006, 07:26 AM   #1275
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I have that same board in my not working section of parts. The J8 ISP in not for a ide drive, had try that. The one I have was delivered to me locked in waiting for IP address. This happens when a user tries to make a 2000 out of a 1000. Since I was never able to recover from this problem I do not know which HW version it is. But Yes I do, v1, OS in flashram. Has Large Clock Chip, with no 2032 battery. Since it was charred all ready, jumper the FB2 and see what happens. I always liked "blind smoke tests" you never know what will happen.

Phoenix32 is our resident electronic person. Bud I do not know if he has one of these boards.

Glad someone kept this mega thread going.
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