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Unread 06-07-2002, 09:03 AM   #1
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Hi all, newbie here.

What temp should my xp 1900 be running at? at the mo it's 51 ish when idle and can get upto 59 at full load. I'm using a Coolermaster HCC 002 Delta Heat Sink & Fan with the thermal paste that came with it. My system temp is ranging from 30 idle to 35 with a full load. My case is a juno p6 with two sunons at the front and three evercool's at the back...all fans are 80's.
These temps are with a side panel off if i put it bcak on it all goes up by 3 - 4 degrees.

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Unread 06-07-2002, 09:28 AM   #2
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51C to 59C is about right, for an air cooled system on an Athlon XP 1900+. Is it overclocked? Voltage increased?

Can we interest you in watercooling? Your temps will drop to a range of 40-45.
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Unread 06-07-2002, 09:34 AM   #3
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not clocked and no voltage change ..... water cooling - don't think i'm ready for this yet ... still a newbie to this world! besides the idea of water cooling my pc kinda freaks me out!!
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thermalright ax-7 with 50cfm sunon will fix ya right up.
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they sound about right, maybe a bit high with that heatsink. I doubt an alpha would help too much, water would be a better solution
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How much are you talking for changing to water cooled?

another thing when ever i touch my heatsink it never feels that warm .... somet wrong there yeah??
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i'm also new, but i don't think your heatsink not being warm is a problem. my p4 runs from 40 - 45 and the ax478 never seems to get warm. like i said though, i'm new.
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but when mine has a full load and it's hitting 59/60 the h/s is still not that warm.

at what temp should i worry?
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Your heatsink would only feel warm if there was no fan over it.

Your temps are on the high side, but they're ok. You might consider remounting the heatsink, and using some thermal paste, like Arctic Silver 2: that might improve your numbers a little bit.

As for water cooling, it's just a bit of tubing, a pump, a radiator, some water, a waterblock to fit over the CPU. and a bit of T&T (tool and time). It's an expense, and the best approach is to set a goal (i.e. quiet PC, cool PC, overclock): it makes the selection process a lot easier.
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It's an expense, and the best approach is to set a goal (i.e. quiet PC, cool PC, overclock): it makes the selection process a lot easier.
Good advice BB. My startup kit cost me about $200. But I would imagine that all of the tweaks and mods I've made here and there would put me over $300, and I haven't even gotten to the GF3 and the chipset. It would be an ongoing thing, until you reach nirvana !! But that probably won't happen for a while...if ever.
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I see a few people saying that those temps are about right. "in a pigs eye". with case temps 35c you can't expect too much from any cooling solution. I have recently replaced my tbird with a XP1800+ and it's running 1754@2.02 vcore and under full load it stays 35c. room temp is around 24c, case temp 29, and I'm using a swiftech mcxc370 hsf with a duct and a delta 68cfm 80mm fan.
so you see air might not cool as well water but it can come close with the right setup. don't just slap a hsf on and expect it to keep it cool you need airflow my friend.
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I see a few people saying that those temps are about right. "in a pigs eye". with case temps 35c you can't expect too much from any cooling solution. I have recently replaced my tbird with a XP1800+ and it's running 1754@2.02 vcore and under full load it stays 35c. room temp is around 24c, case temp 29, and I'm using a swiftech mcxc370 hsf with a duct and a delta 68cfm 80mm fan.
so you see air might not cool as well water but it can come close with the right setup. don't just slap a hsf on and expect it to keep it cool you need airflow my friend.
Were we in a bad mood last night?

How do you measure 35C?
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with the onboard thermosistor. I know what your going to say "they aren't accurate" the shuttle ak31 seems to be pretty close. when I had my tbird in this board temps would peak at 43c
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Tell you what: I'll go on and say that your temps are unusually low (and take it for what it's worth) and I'll go on to say that the fella that started this thread's temps are 'bout average, but on the high side.

Can we agree to disagree?

I wish pHaestus would step in here: he could show you how to link to the CPU's internal probe very easily.
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Unread 06-19-2002, 02:08 AM   #15
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that wold be cool. I thought it was kinda wierd how temps dropped from 42c to 35c just from switching tbird with xp both are running about same wattage and everything else is the same. maybe since the core has a larger area than on the tbird made the difference. I don't really worry about the temps so much as it's stable. the way I figure it is if you can get a above average overclock and not have any errors it's got to be cool enough. the stepping I have is AGOGA and most of them top out around 1700.

I still say NaturalMystic45 will benifit from better case cooling plus a better heatsink wouldn't hurt eithier.
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I still say NaturalMystic45 will benifit from better case cooling plus a better heatsink wouldn't hurt eithier.
Agreed.
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According to Radiate, and guessing on the C/W rating of your CoolerMaster (since you don't have the exact model number), you're temps are right on. The Swiftech MCX462 would drop your temps into the low 40s (~41°C). I would also examine you're case cooling to see what kind of circulation/ventilation you have, if any. I was able to drop my roommates temp 10-12°C just by doing that. Check it out here.
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Amd says that their processors will automatically shut down/ die at 96 degrees celsius.
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and at 97C it's surely dead
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the AX-7 are awesome, get one at kdcomputers and a 50cfm sunon for like $35 shipped.

xp1800+ idle 37C, load 49C default voltage and clock
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