R134 AC Gas Block-Heat Pipe

ibmkg · 12-24-2007, 01:29 PM

I am thinking of making a crossdrilled block, very small in size along with a heat pipe and at the end of heat pipe a heat sink. The block would have R134 gas in it for evaporative cooling. And this is for the voltage regulators. Need advice on:

a) If it is going to outperform a normal HSF/water block
b) And anything in particular that I should know of?

billbartuska · 12-24-2007, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibmkg

a) If it is going to outperform a normal HSF/water block
b) And anything in particular that I should know of?

A better question would be "IS this trip necessary?"

What do you hope to accomplish that can't be accomplished by simpler means?

For example:
http://ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=1567

SiGfever · 12-26-2007, 01:40 PM

First question is are you legally certified to posses and handle R134A?

ibmkg · 12-26-2007, 04:35 PM

bill:

Good question. I was thinking of moving the heat away from regulators. Initially I thought of adding a simple Cu pipe to the existing HS located on regulators. The pipe's other end will be then attached to the WB.

I assume these regulators are linear (since they are very inefficient), and cooling would increase a volt (tops). I had an experience with linear regulators recently and noticed that with increased cooling they were more stable.

May be increased cooling of these regulators on Mobo improve performance?
I do not know the specs of these regulators. I think that should be the first step. In any case, the stock forced induction cooling used to keep them cool.

SiGfever:

No, I am not experienced with this stuff. But I do know someone who is and is willing to help.

SiGfever · 12-26-2007, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibmkg

bill:

Good question. I was thinking of moving the heat away from regulators. Initially I thought of adding a simple Cu pipe to the existing HS located on regulators. The pipe's other end will be then attached to the WB.

I assume these regulators are linear (since they are very inefficient), and cooling would increase a volt (tops). I had an experience with linear regulators recently and noticed that with increased cooling they were more stable.

May be increased cooling of these regulators on Mobo improve performance?
I do not know the specs of these regulators. I think that should be the first step. In any case, the stock forced induction cooling used to keep them cool.

SiGfever:

No, I am not experienced with this stuff. But I do know someone who is and is willing to help.

Just checking, the fines can be very steep.

ben333 · 12-26-2007, 05:09 PM

To be fined you must be caught and I don't see how you could be in this case

Anyway I have pondered the idea of an air and water block for some time but have not designed or built one yet. I think its a wonderful idea and look forward to updates of this project.

SiGfever · 12-26-2007, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ben333

To be fined you must be caught and I don't see how you could be in this case

Anyway I have pondered the idea of an air and water block for some time but have not designed or built one yet. I think its a wonderful idea and look forward to updates of this project.

I guess the law means different things to different people?

ben333 · 12-26-2007, 05:26 PM

Just a joke, don't make me moderate myself

I just mean that he will probobly not get fined wether he screws up or not but a more important bit is to be safe and know exactly what the gas is and dose

SiGfever · 12-26-2007, 05:33 PM

Good luck with your project.

ricecrispi · 01-28-2008, 10:41 PM

Basically a thermosiphon. Requires vacuum seal, soldering an access port, and something or where for heat to dissipate from like fins or radiator.

You can obtain r134a at automotive stores and is legal. Fines apply if you purposely release refrigerant and don't act in good faith. Can also use water and some alcohol instead.

ibmkg · 02-05-2008, 12:31 AM

alcohol like?

I was able to make one using R134A. I have not tested it but the size is big enough to render it useless for my purposes.

12-24-2007, 01:29 PM	#1
ibmkg Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: USA Posts: 129	R134 AC Gas Block-Heat Pipe I am thinking of making a crossdrilled block, very small in size along with a heat pipe and at the end of heat pipe a heat sink. The block would have R134 gas in it for evaporative cooling. And this is for the voltage regulators. Need advice on: a) If it is going to outperform a normal HSF/water block b) And anything in particular that I should know of? __________________ NOTE: Suggestions are based on my perceptive. I could be erroneous. Therefore, no one has the right to criticize an individual other than rephrasing and or expressing his own annotations on the subject matter itself. Last edited by ibmkg; 12-24-2007 at 01:44 PM.

12-26-2007, 01:40 PM	#3
SiGfever Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 53	Re: R134 AC Gas Block-Heat Pipe First question is are you legally certified to posses and handle R134A? __________________ U2-UFO; Corsair HX620W; Q6600 "GO" (L723A) vid=1.2125v @3.61Ghz 1.32v; P5K Premium; Ballistix 6400c4 4x1Gb; eVga eGeforce 7600GT KO 256mb; Samsung 245BW; Klipsch Promedia 2.1; FuZion; DDC-2 w/ AlphaCool top; PA120.3 rad_push/pull; 7/16" Tubing. (In progress) MCW30; EK Asus3a Acetal Mosfet; MCX159-CU; MCR220; 3/8" tubing. Sigmund Freud said..."Failure to CRUNCH is a sign of Sexual Inadequacies".

12-26-2007, 04:35 PM	#4
ibmkg Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: USA Posts: 129	Re: R134 AC Gas Block-Heat Pipe bill: Good question. I was thinking of moving the heat away from regulators. Initially I thought of adding a simple Cu pipe to the existing HS located on regulators. The pipe's other end will be then attached to the WB. I assume these regulators are linear (since they are very inefficient), and cooling would increase a volt (tops). I had an experience with linear regulators recently and noticed that with increased cooling they were more stable. May be increased cooling of these regulators on Mobo improve performance? I do not know the specs of these regulators. I think that should be the first step. In any case, the stock forced induction cooling used to keep them cool. SiGfever: No, I am not experienced with this stuff. But I do know someone who is and is willing to help. __________________ NOTE: Suggestions are based on my perceptive. I could be erroneous. Therefore, no one has the right to criticize an individual other than rephrasing and or expressing his own annotations on the subject matter itself.

12-26-2007, 05:09 PM	#6
ben333 Uber Pro/Mods Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New Hampshire (USA) Posts: Two hundred somethin Posts: 432	Re: R134 AC Gas Block-Heat Pipe To be fined you must be caught and I don't see how you could be in this case Anyway I have pondered the idea of an air and water block for some time but have not designed or built one yet. I think its a wonderful idea and look forward to updates of this project. __________________ Pro Slacker

12-26-2007, 05:26 PM	#8
ben333 Uber Pro/Mods Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New Hampshire (USA) Posts: Two hundred somethin Posts: 432	Re: R134 AC Gas Block-Heat Pipe Just a joke, don't make me moderate myself I just mean that he will probobly not get fined wether he screws up or not but a more important bit is to be safe and know exactly what the gas is and dose __________________ Pro Slacker

12-26-2007, 05:33 PM	#9
SiGfever Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 53	Re: R134 AC Gas Block-Heat Pipe Good luck with your project. __________________ U2-UFO; Corsair HX620W; Q6600 "GO" (L723A) vid=1.2125v @3.61Ghz 1.32v; P5K Premium; Ballistix 6400c4 4x1Gb; eVga eGeforce 7600GT KO 256mb; Samsung 245BW; Klipsch Promedia 2.1; FuZion; DDC-2 w/ AlphaCool top; PA120.3 rad_push/pull; 7/16" Tubing. (In progress) MCW30; EK Asus3a Acetal Mosfet; MCX159-CU; MCR220; 3/8" tubing. Sigmund Freud said..."Failure to CRUNCH is a sign of Sexual Inadequacies".

01-28-2008, 10:41 PM	#10
ricecrispi Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: california Posts: 429	Re: R134 AC Gas Block-Heat Pipe Basically a thermosiphon. Requires vacuum seal, soldering an access port, and something or where for heat to dissipate from like fins or radiator. You can obtain r134a at automotive stores and is legal. Fines apply if you purposely release refrigerant and don't act in good faith. Can also use water and some alcohol instead.

02-05-2008, 12:31 AM	#11
ibmkg Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: USA Posts: 129	Re: R134 AC Gas Block-Heat Pipe alcohol like? I was able to make one using R134A. I have not tested it but the size is big enough to render it useless for my purposes. __________________ NOTE: Suggestions are based on my perceptive. I could be erroneous. Therefore, no one has the right to criticize an individual other than rephrasing and or expressing his own annotations on the subject matter itself.

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