LCD displays

icel0rd · 01-30-2002, 12:59 PM

Anyone have any experience with LCDs? I was wondering how well parallel LCDs work with what is out there on Win XP.

Serial LCD screens are pretty easily supported, but parallel ones seem to be a lot less supported. I was wondering because I saw a nice Maxorbital VFD and considered getting it, and I ran across the parallel ones that I are way cheaper than serial couterparts. I just don't know if its worth the trouble to try a parallel.

So, anyone have LCD experience out there? I'd rather save some time and money and not buy something that is not going to work very well.

Thanks

-Ice-

WebMasta33 · 01-31-2002, 08:10 PM

Go here... Read the forums. There's nice instuctions in the forums that tell you how to convert a Parallel To a serial LCD.

http://www.crystalfontz.com/

Lonely Raven · 02-01-2002, 10:24 AM

Or, if you can spring for it, check out the ones at
MatrixOrbital.com

I just ordered one for my PC last night. You can make it do stuff
like a digital doc, and also turn your CCFLs on and off and stuff.
So it sounds just geeky enough for me!

But $85 does hurt...

WebMasta33 · 02-01-2002, 03:26 PM

yup... that's why you get a 25 buck color 4x20 lcd and a 15 dollar serial -> parallel conversion kit... Much cheaper

Or, you get a 5"Color LCD TV that's made for cars, and a cheapo pci display card, and do this:

http://www.l33tpeeps.com/caffeine/article_lcdmod_02.htm

Lonely Raven · 02-02-2002, 09:50 AM

Yeah, I've thought of that, but....Where are your photos of
the finished Mod?

You show some cutting, some pics of parts, and some killer
screen shots with great ideas...but not one finished mod pic?!?!

WebMasta33 · 02-02-2002, 11:13 PM

It's not "MY" mod... I just had it as one of my favorites under my "Mod's I wish I had the money to do"

Here are some pics I found of it on other parts of the guys site:

Lonely Raven · 02-03-2002, 12:51 AM

Wow! That looks nice!

You should have lied to me and told me it was your mod!

Hmmm...I think I need to re-examine my case...(grabbing tape
measure)...

icel0rd · 02-04-2002, 12:31 PM

Wow, that thing is around the same price range as the MaxOrbital one. Imagine the possibilities..... hmmm

This was certainly an eye opener. I think I might forget about the other LCD idea and go with this. I just wonder how well my system would do running two pci displays at once.

Who cares! Its cool. I gotta have one now.. heheh. My cube arrives tomorrow, so I can plan out my mod using a display like this.

This is going to be a really interesting project. I'm going to look for more LCDs on the web. I saw quite a few out there before and I wonder how well I can do with finding a great deal.

-Ice-

Lonely Raven · 02-04-2002, 01:15 PM

Shhh...don't mention too loudly how that screen is a better deal
then the Matrix Orbital. I might hear you (I just orderd my
Matrix Orbital two days before I saw this thread)!

Are you getting the YY Cube, or some other cube?

If your getting the YY Cube I'd like to compair notes with you
about the possibilites of putting this screen in it!

Damn, and I thought I was getting near finished with this damn
mod!! Hehe...

Get back to me on this!

icel0rd · 02-04-2002, 02:36 PM

Yeah, I'm getting a black YY cube in the mail tomorrow

That case is large enough that I'm sure there should be plenty of room for the 5" lcd panel.

I got mine from:

http://www.caseoutlet.com/Server/YY-cube/default.htm

I specified black so I would save some time with painting.

By the way, I found another source for the same panel for $120 (the 5" TFT). I am ordering one today

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...&st3=-65880717

As soon as I get my cube in tomorrow, I can size it up and determine where and how to install the LCD screen. This will be pretty cool.

-Ice-

icel0rd · 02-06-2002, 10:57 PM

Raven, I got my black YY cube today !!! This thing is a picture of excellence! This is the PERFECT size. Its not to big, not too small, but just perfect.

With this beauty I can do some awesome work. When my LCD tv display gets here in a day or two, I'm going to work on designing a bracket to hold it in middle bay slots since I have very little use for 5/14' bays anyway.

Idea #1:

The bay is close to 6 inches wide, which should be pretty close to what the screen is. I plan to make a little enclosure that has rails that will allow me to install it so that it comes out to a perfect fit among the other bay covers.

Idea 1a:

I thought about modifying the door on the cube and installing a window in it so that I could see the display behind it.

Idea #2:

Remove the face panel from the cube altogether. I could simply design a very neat housing that I can put the screen in, which will fit in the middle 5/14" bay slots. I would have to paint the face underneath the face panel if I decided to go with that route for a neat, consistent look.

This case turned out to be a lot nicer than I thought it might be. Even the drive bays in the rear are easily removed, so that makes plenty of room for my radiator and PSU.

The 1 thing I wish was different was the PSU placement. Its at the bottom and I wanted to put my res on the bottom incase of a leak. I dont want my res above the PSU. I may just put the res on the floor of the unit infront of the PSU. The are stamped elevations to hold the PSU from touching the botton anyway, which makes me think less about the danger of a leak. My water circuit could probably drain 100% and it wouldnt be an issue.

This black YY cube rocks. IMO, there isn't a better choice!!. I cant wait to design the display enclosure.

-Ice-

Kevin · 02-07-2002, 12:07 AM

icel0rd, I love my YY cube as well! It is WAY too covered in H2O coolin gear to possibly put an LCD in there as of now, but if would have kept the cooling system a bit more low key, I was thinking the best place to mount it would be on the top of the case (like dremel a hole where there would normally be a blowhole). My YY cube sits on the floor and it would be cool to have the LCD playing winamp visualizations on the top while I surfed the internet. Anyhow... just throwing the top out as idea regarding where to put it.
-Kev

RickCain · 02-07-2002, 08:45 AM

Yeah Kevin,

Do you have any current pictures of your case in a finished and working state? I found your post and it only showed the motherboard mounted with no gear inside. Just curious how you configured the inside.

You guy really might was to look at the Chenbro cube as well. I went to these guys shop yesterday Servercase.com and he pulled out a YY case and the Chenbro so I could see them side by side. The Chenbro is a bit larger (more 5 1/4 bays) and has a much more finished feel to the inside. In talking with the owner of this shop for awhile he said that the YY case has not changed in 10 years and the Chenbro was made to go head to head with the YY. I stood there for 30 minutes taking both apart and debating but ultimately left with the Chenbro. I give two thumbs up to this site only because he didn't have to let me come down to his warehouse and make the poor shipping guy take both out of the box for me. That's great customer service!

Kevin · 02-07-2002, 10:34 AM

RickCain, check out my article for the most recent uploaded pix. Part II will have much more revealing pix in it, and those are currently on my computer @ home. I'm gonna try and get Part II done over spring break.
-Kevin

02-01-2002, 10:24 AM	#3
Lonely Raven Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 69	Or, if you can spring for it, check out the ones at MatrixOrbital.com I just ordered one for my PC last night. You can make it do stuff like a digital doc, and also turn your CCFLs on and off and stuff. So it sounds just geeky enough for me! But $85 does hurt... __________________ The Lonely Raven Jack of All Trades, Master of None IT Samurai

02-01-2002, 03:26 PM	#4
WebMasta33 Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nebraska Posts: 526	yup... that's why you get a 25 buck color 4x20 lcd and a 15 dollar serial -> parallel conversion kit... Much cheaper Or, you get a 5"Color LCD TV that's made for cars, and a cheapo pci display card, and do this: http://www.l33tpeeps.com/caffeine/article_lcdmod_02.htm __________________ ========== --Soyo KT333 DRAGON Ultra (Platinum Edition) --AMD 1.4 @ 1.54 (11x) --768mb of PC2100 (@140FSB) --Asus v8200 GeForce3 @ 210/490 --Maxtor 40gb Quiet + 2 IBM 40gb 60GXPs (removable) + 8gb WD --Audigy --Maze 3, DD Gf3 block, 2x BIX, Eheim1250 ===========

02-02-2002, 09:50 AM	#5
Lonely Raven Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 69	Yeah, I've thought of that, but....Where are your photos of the finished Mod? You show some cutting, some pics of parts, and some killer screen shots with great ideas...but not one finished mod pic?!?! __________________ The Lonely Raven Jack of All Trades, Master of None IT Samurai

02-02-2002, 11:13 PM	#6
WebMasta33 Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nebraska Posts: 526	It's not "MY" mod... I just had it as one of my favorites under my "Mod's I wish I had the money to do" Here are some pics I found of it on other parts of the guys site: __________________ ========== --Soyo KT333 DRAGON Ultra (Platinum Edition) --AMD 1.4 @ 1.54 (11x) --768mb of PC2100 (@140FSB) --Asus v8200 GeForce3 @ 210/490 --Maxtor 40gb Quiet + 2 IBM 40gb 60GXPs (removable) + 8gb WD --Audigy --Maze 3, DD Gf3 block, 2x BIX, Eheim1250 ===========

02-03-2002, 12:51 AM	#7
Lonely Raven Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 69	Wow! That looks nice! You should have lied to me and told me it was your mod! Hmmm...I think I need to re-examine my case...(grabbing tape measure)... __________________ The Lonely Raven Jack of All Trades, Master of None IT Samurai

01-30-2002, 12:59 PM	#1
icel0rd Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Where even the devil wont go Posts: 103	LCD displays Anyone have any experience with LCDs? I was wondering how well parallel LCDs work with what is out there on Win XP. Serial LCD screens are pretty easily supported, but parallel ones seem to be a lot less supported. I was wondering because I saw a nice Maxorbital VFD and considered getting it, and I ran across the parallel ones that I are way cheaper than serial couterparts. I just don't know if its worth the trouble to try a parallel. So, anyone have LCD experience out there? I'd rather save some time and money and not buy something that is not going to work very well. Thanks -Ice-

01-31-2002, 08:10 PM	#2
WebMasta33 Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nebraska Posts: 526	Go here... Read the forums. There's nice instuctions in the forums that tell you how to convert a Parallel To a serial LCD. http://www.crystalfontz.com/ __________________ ========== --Soyo KT333 DRAGON Ultra (Platinum Edition) --AMD 1.4 @ 1.54 (11x) --768mb of PC2100 (@140FSB) --Asus v8200 GeForce3 @ 210/490 --Maxtor 40gb Quiet + 2 IBM 40gb 60GXPs (removable) + 8gb WD --Audigy --Maze 3, DD Gf3 block, 2x BIX, Eheim1250 ===========

02-04-2002, 12:31 PM	#8
icel0rd Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Where even the devil wont go Posts: 103	Wow, that thing is around the same price range as the MaxOrbital one. Imagine the possibilities..... hmmm This was certainly an eye opener. I think I might forget about the other LCD idea and go with this. I just wonder how well my system would do running two pci displays at once. Who cares! Its cool. I gotta have one now.. heheh. My cube arrives tomorrow, so I can plan out my mod using a display like this. This is going to be a really interesting project. I'm going to look for more LCDs on the web. I saw quite a few out there before and I wonder how well I can do with finding a great deal. -Ice-

02-04-2002, 01:15 PM	#9
Lonely Raven Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 69	Shhh...don't mention too loudly how that screen is a better deal then the Matrix Orbital. I might hear you (I just orderd my Matrix Orbital two days before I saw this thread)! Are you getting the YY Cube, or some other cube? If your getting the YY Cube I'd like to compair notes with you about the possibilites of putting this screen in it! Damn, and I thought I was getting near finished with this damn mod!! Hehe... Get back to me on this! __________________ The Lonely Raven Jack of All Trades, Master of None IT Samurai

02-04-2002, 02:36 PM	#10
icel0rd Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Where even the devil wont go Posts: 103	Yeah, I'm getting a black YY cube in the mail tomorrow That case is large enough that I'm sure there should be plenty of room for the 5" lcd panel. I got mine from: http://www.caseoutlet.com/Server/YY-cube/default.htm I specified black so I would save some time with painting. By the way, I found another source for the same panel for $120 (the 5" TFT). I am ordering one today http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...&st3=-65880717 As soon as I get my cube in tomorrow, I can size it up and determine where and how to install the LCD screen. This will be pretty cool. -Ice-

02-06-2002, 10:57 PM	#11
icel0rd Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Where even the devil wont go Posts: 103	Raven, I got my black YY cube today !!! This thing is a picture of excellence! This is the PERFECT size. Its not to big, not too small, but just perfect. With this beauty I can do some awesome work. When my LCD tv display gets here in a day or two, I'm going to work on designing a bracket to hold it in middle bay slots since I have very little use for 5/14' bays anyway. Idea #1: The bay is close to 6 inches wide, which should be pretty close to what the screen is. I plan to make a little enclosure that has rails that will allow me to install it so that it comes out to a perfect fit among the other bay covers. Idea 1a: I thought about modifying the door on the cube and installing a window in it so that I could see the display behind it. Idea #2: Remove the face panel from the cube altogether. I could simply design a very neat housing that I can put the screen in, which will fit in the middle 5/14" bay slots. I would have to paint the face underneath the face panel if I decided to go with that route for a neat, consistent look. This case turned out to be a lot nicer than I thought it might be. Even the drive bays in the rear are easily removed, so that makes plenty of room for my radiator and PSU. The 1 thing I wish was different was the PSU placement. Its at the bottom and I wanted to put my res on the bottom incase of a leak. I dont want my res above the PSU. I may just put the res on the floor of the unit infront of the PSU. The are stamped elevations to hold the PSU from touching the botton anyway, which makes me think less about the danger of a leak. My water circuit could probably drain 100% and it wouldnt be an issue. This black YY cube rocks. IMO, there isn't a better choice!!. I cant wait to design the display enclosure. -Ice-

02-07-2002, 12:07 AM	#12
Kevin Slacking more than your weird uncle Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: San Diego, CA (UCSD) / Los Angeles, CA (home) Posts: 1,605	icel0rd, I love my YY cube as well! It is WAY too covered in H2O coolin gear to possibly put an LCD in there as of now, but if would have kept the cooling system a bit more low key, I was thinking the best place to mount it would be on the top of the case (like dremel a hole where there would normally be a blowhole). My YY cube sits on the floor and it would be cool to have the LCD playing winamp visualizations on the top while I surfed the internet. Anyhow... just throwing the top out as idea regarding where to put it. -Kev __________________ I used to throw hot coffee all over the ass of the horse there, then whip him while he was kickin' at me. Those f***in things are crazy.

02-07-2002, 08:45 AM	#13
RickCain Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 110	Yeah Kevin, Do you have any current pictures of your case in a finished and working state? I found your post and it only showed the motherboard mounted with no gear inside. Just curious how you configured the inside. You guy really might was to look at the Chenbro cube as well. I went to these guys shop yesterday Servercase.com and he pulled out a YY case and the Chenbro so I could see them side by side. The Chenbro is a bit larger (more 5 1/4 bays) and has a much more finished feel to the inside. In talking with the owner of this shop for awhile he said that the YY case has not changed in 10 years and the Chenbro was made to go head to head with the YY. I stood there for 30 minutes taking both apart and debating but ultimately left with the Chenbro. I give two thumbs up to this site only because he didn't have to let me come down to his warehouse and make the poor shipping guy take both out of the box for me. That's great customer service!

02-07-2002, 10:34 AM	#14
Kevin Slacking more than your weird uncle Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: San Diego, CA (UCSD) / Los Angeles, CA (home) Posts: 1,605	RickCain, check out my article for the most recent uploaded pix. Part II will have much more revealing pix in it, and those are currently on my computer @ home. I'm gonna try and get Part II done over spring break. -Kevin __________________ I used to throw hot coffee all over the ass of the horse there, then whip him while he was kickin' at me. Those f***in things are crazy.

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