What kind of tubing do you people use?

Mars · 08-09-2004, 11:05 PM

I thought I post a new thread on the types of tubing different people use.
I got clear vynel tubing from home depot. Seems a little stiff. Very inexpensive. Hope it'll seal tight around the barbs.

Razor6 · 08-09-2004, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mars

I thought I post a new thread on the types of tubing different people use.
I got clear vynel tubing from home depot. Seems a little stiff. Very inexpensive. Hope it'll seal tight around the barbs.

Same here with the Home Depot Vinyl, 1/2" ID 5/8" OD. I also have some 1/2" ID 3/4" OD ClearFlex 60 that I've never used.

killernoodle · 08-10-2004, 12:23 AM

The vinyl is tough to bend and tends to sweat out liquid after a while, requiring a refill periodically.

I use 1/2" ID 5/8" OD tygon. I'll never go back to the cheap stuff.

quicksilverXP · 08-10-2004, 12:28 AM

Tygon or Masterkleer

Butcher · 08-10-2004, 07:52 AM

I use clearflex 60.

Mars · 08-10-2004, 11:42 AM

Where do you guys buy the Clearflex, or the tygon? At a plumbing store?
As a test, I tried to put pressure on a sealed piece of the clear vinyl tubing I have, and It would only hold a little. The air pressure kept wanting to leak out of the barbed end no matter how tight I had the clamps. Mind you, It's not meant for high pressure. Vinyl is not that pliable or compressible compared to rubber.

nikhsub1 · 08-10-2004, 11:49 AM

I used to use Tygon R-3603. I decided to try R-1000 Tygon for my latest project, glad I did! This stuff is the stickiest, softest most bendable tubing I have ever seen. Much like Silicone. Expensive stuff though at just over $4 a foot.

AngryAlpaca · 08-10-2004, 12:00 PM

www.mcmaster.com for the Clearflex, and I just found out that www.bestpcmods.com has Tygon for only $1.40/foot.

jaydee · 08-10-2004, 12:33 PM

I always used the vinyl because I am always changing stuff and go through feet of it.

I think killernoodle is confused a bit though. Vinyl doesn't sweat at all. It is Silicon and similar tubing that does as it is more porous (sp?). Vinyl is much like plastic. About as water proof as it gets (thats why they use it for rain gear). Certainly could be wrong though. I never had any problems with sweating though.

BillA · 08-10-2004, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AngryAlpaca

www.mcmaster.com for the Clearflex, and I just found out that www.bestpcmods.com has Tygon for only $1.40/foot.

see the post prior to yours, many grades for each 'name brand'

- thin vinyl is difficult to seal with hose clamps due to their non-uniform compression under the screw
- thin vinyl also has higher permeation losses than thicker tubing
- silicone has relatively high permeability, but again this is also a function of its thickness

Mars · 08-10-2004, 03:57 PM

I just did some searching on clearflex. Supposedly it is suppose to be the next best thing to tygon3603 at half the price. You can use 3/8" id hose and it'll slip over a 1/2" barb. I also phoned a couple places by my house and one place said they have a brand of tubing called "J-flex" which is suppose to be just like tygon.
Has anyone heard of or used "J-Flex" tubing?

MadHacker · 08-10-2004, 04:14 PM

I originaly had 1/2" ID 3/4" OD ClearFlex 60 wich you can get at cooltechnica
Then switched to PrimoFlex UV Tubing wich I got at vibecomputers
Love the new stuff al lot more.. more flexible and very soft...

Mars · 08-10-2004, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngryAlpaca

www.mcmaster.com for the Clearflex, and I just found out that www.bestpcmods.com has Tygon for only $1.40/foot.

Do you know the page # or the product # for clearflex 60 on Mcmaster by any chance?

bigben2k · 08-10-2004, 04:20 PM

A "soft PVC" material... interesting.

BillA · 08-10-2004, 04:27 PM

a much more interesting topic is non-vinyl hose,
and why

funbun · 08-10-2004, 05:01 PM

I use 1/2 in x 3/4 in with cross braiding. It doesn't collapse. Easy to bend when you let it sit out side in the heat for a while. .69 per foot at Lowes.

thorilan · 08-10-2004, 05:54 PM

i have clearflex 60 mostly but i also have 3/4 and 1 inch for some of my special application systems

DrMemory · 08-10-2004, 06:53 PM

I use Clearflex 60 and will never go back to less expensive vinyl tubing. I have had problems with Water-Wetter (only on some brands), with geting a good seal using hose clamps, and in getting the hose to go where I need it to go with standard vinyl tubing. I've had none of those problems with Clearflex 60. It can be found at many WC web sites (including D-Tek) usually at reasonable prices.

bobkoure · 08-11-2004, 09:17 PM

I use soft (ns-51) silicone "thick wall" tubing from mcmaster - both 1/2" ID and 3/8" ID, depending on the system.
It does allow a bit of water to evaporate through (never enough that there's any kind of "sweat" detectable on the outside of the tubing - evaporation is on the order of a tablespoon a month).
It's very flexible stuff - good to use as the runs to/from your pump if you're trying to isolate pump vibration. The thin wall version is even more flexible, but has a tendency to kink if bent more than ninety degrees.
I have been using this kind of tubing for a few years now. One system (using the 3/8" ID) has been running 24x7 for more than three years now. The last time I looked at it, the tubing looked new and was as flexible as ever.

infinity9 · 08-12-2004, 03:55 PM

only problem with the primoflex is it will collapse after awhile under tight bends. so far masterkleer hasnt done that nearly as bad. its definately got a better bend radius than my clearflex. neither seem to collapse much from what i can tell.

2Busy · 08-12-2004, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngryAlpaca

www.mcmaster.com for the Clearflex, and I just found out that www.bestpcmods.com has Tygon for only $1.40/foot.

Anybody know the difference between the various tygon tubings? There are like 19 different variatons of tygon, I would assume from their content and intended use. Naturally, I want what wil last long, bend short radius without kinking, and stay soft. What I don't want is to spend more than I need to or pick the wrong one.

Colt357tw · 08-12-2004, 10:07 PM

If I have a little more income, this would be my choice, Bar none

Mars · 08-12-2004, 10:15 PM

Why the hell would you use fuel hose in your computer case? That hose is meant for high psi applications, like hydraulic systems, or fuel systems, etc. While your there, why don't you use stainless steel tubing,..............hhhhmmmmmmm.

infinity9 · 08-12-2004, 10:39 PM

was checking out tubing at mcmaster and came across this stuff..

id.........od.........wall......bend......psi

1/2".....9/16"....1/32"....1 4/7"....72.......5737K16
1/2".....5/8"......1/16"....1 1/5"....147.....5737K35

that is an insanely small bend radius considering the wall size no? i think im going to try 8 of the small stuff.. just noticed 8.23 per foot of the larger.

weird fractions there...

BillA · 08-12-2004, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Colt357tw

If I have a little more income, this would be my choice, Bar none

I'll bite - why ?

08-09-2004, 11:05 PM	#1
Mars Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Brampton, Ontario Posts: 108	What kind of tubing do you people use? I thought I post a new thread on the types of tubing different people use. I got clear vynel tubing from home depot. Seems a little stiff. Very inexpensive. Hope it'll seal tight around the barbs. __________________ The Rage is Relentless

08-10-2004, 12:23 AM	#3
killernoodle Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,014	The vinyl is tough to bend and tends to sweat out liquid after a while, requiring a refill periodically. I use 1/2" ID 5/8" OD tygon. I'll never go back to the cheap stuff. __________________ I have a nice computer.

08-10-2004, 07:52 AM	#5
Butcher Thermophile Join Date: May 2001 Location: UK Posts: 1,064	I use clearflex 60. __________________ Once upon a time, in a land far far away...

08-10-2004, 11:42 AM	#6
Mars Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Brampton, Ontario Posts: 108	Where do you guys buy the Clearflex, or the tygon? At a plumbing store? As a test, I tried to put pressure on a sealed piece of the clear vinyl tubing I have, and It would only hold a little. The air pressure kept wanting to leak out of the barbed end no matter how tight I had the clamps. Mind you, It's not meant for high pressure. Vinyl is not that pliable or compressible compared to rubber. __________________ The Rage is Relentless

08-10-2004, 11:49 AM	#7
nikhsub1 c00ling p00n Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: L.A. Posts: 758	I used to use Tygon R-3603. I decided to try R-1000 Tygon for my latest project, glad I did! This stuff is the stickiest, softest most bendable tubing I have ever seen. Much like Silicone. Expensive stuff though at just over $4 a foot. __________________ :-.,_,.-:'``':-.,_,.-:'``':-.,_,.-:'``':-.,_,.-:'``':-.,_,.-: E6700 @ 3.65Ghz / P5W DH Deluxe / 2GB 667 TeamGroup / 1900XTX PC Power & Cooling Turbo 510 Deluxe Mountain Mods U2-UFO Cube Storm G5 --> MP-01 --> PA 120.3 --> 2x DDC Ultras in Series --> Custom Clear Res "Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity." 1,223,460+ Ghz Folding@Home aNonForums :-.,_,.-:'``':-.,_,.-:'``':-.,_,.-:'``':-.,_,.-:'``':-.,_,.-:

08-10-2004, 12:28 AM	#4
quicksilverXP Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Irvine Posts: 58	Tygon or Masterkleer

08-10-2004, 12:00 PM	#8
AngryAlpaca Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Alberta Posts: 631	www.mcmaster.com for the Clearflex, and I just found out that www.bestpcmods.com has Tygon for only $1.40/foot.

08-10-2004, 12:33 PM	#9
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	I always used the vinyl because I am always changing stuff and go through feet of it. I think killernoodle is confused a bit though. Vinyl doesn't sweat at all. It is Silicon and similar tubing that does as it is more porous (sp?). Vinyl is much like plastic. About as water proof as it gets (thats why they use it for rain gear). Certainly could be wrong though. I never had any problems with sweating though.

08-10-2004, 03:57 PM	#11
Mars Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Brampton, Ontario Posts: 108	I just did some searching on clearflex. Supposedly it is suppose to be the next best thing to tygon3603 at half the price. You can use 3/8" id hose and it'll slip over a 1/2" barb. I also phoned a couple places by my house and one place said they have a brand of tubing called "J-flex" which is suppose to be just like tygon. Has anyone heard of or used "J-Flex" tubing? __________________ The Rage is Relentless

08-10-2004, 04:14 PM	#12
MadHacker Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Okotoks, A.B. Canada Posts: 726	I originaly had 1/2" ID 3/4" OD ClearFlex 60 wich you can get at cooltechnica Then switched to PrimoFlex UV Tubing wich I got at vibecomputers Love the new stuff al lot more.. more flexible and very soft... __________________ "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" - (Einstein)

08-10-2004, 04:20 PM	#14
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	A "soft PVC" material... interesting. __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

08-10-2004, 04:27 PM	#15
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	a much more interesting topic is non-vinyl hose, and why

08-10-2004, 05:01 PM	#16
funbun Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 53	I use 1/2 in x 3/4 in with cross braiding. It doesn't collapse. Easy to bend when you let it sit out side in the heat for a while. .69 per foot at Lowes. __________________ SYSTEM: A64 3000+ @2.42Ghz w/CO stepping \| Chaintech VNF3-250 \| Sapphire 9600 Pro \| 2x512MB Corsair PC3200 \| Enermax 460w PS \| 2x80 gig IDE HD \| WATER COOLING: DangerDen Maze 4 CPU waterblock \| Hydor L20 waterpump \|Homemade reservior \| Heater core\| biketour.blogspot.com

08-10-2004, 05:54 PM	#17
thorilan Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: japan Posts: 4	i have clearflex 60 mostly but i also have 3/4 and 1 inch for some of my special application systems

08-10-2004, 06:53 PM	#18
DrMemory Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 101	I use Clearflex 60 and will never go back to less expensive vinyl tubing. I have had problems with Water-Wetter (only on some brands), with geting a good seal using hose clamps, and in getting the hose to go where I need it to go with standard vinyl tubing. I've had none of those problems with Clearflex 60. It can be found at many WC web sites (including D-Tek) usually at reasonable prices.

08-11-2004, 09:17 PM	#19
bobkoure Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA - Boston area Posts: 798	I use soft (ns-51) silicone "thick wall" tubing from mcmaster - both 1/2" ID and 3/8" ID, depending on the system. It does allow a bit of water to evaporate through (never enough that there's any kind of "sweat" detectable on the outside of the tubing - evaporation is on the order of a tablespoon a month). It's very flexible stuff - good to use as the runs to/from your pump if you're trying to isolate pump vibration. The thin wall version is even more flexible, but has a tendency to kink if bent more than ninety degrees. I have been using this kind of tubing for a few years now. One system (using the 3/8" ID) has been running 24x7 for more than three years now. The last time I looked at it, the tubing looked new and was as flexible as ever.

08-12-2004, 03:55 PM	#20
infinity9 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2004 Location: NC Posts: 47	only problem with the primoflex is it will collapse after awhile under tight bends. so far masterkleer hasnt done that nearly as bad. its definately got a better bend radius than my clearflex. neither seem to collapse much from what i can tell.

08-12-2004, 10:07 PM	#22
Colt357tw Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Taiwan Posts: 55	If I have a little more income, this would be my choice, Bar none

08-12-2004, 10:15 PM	#23
Mars Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Brampton, Ontario Posts: 108	Why the hell would you use fuel hose in your computer case? That hose is meant for high psi applications, like hydraulic systems, or fuel systems, etc. While your there, why don't you use stainless steel tubing,..............hhhhmmmmmmm. __________________ The Rage is Relentless

08-12-2004, 10:39 PM	#24
infinity9 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2004 Location: NC Posts: 47	was checking out tubing at mcmaster and came across this stuff.. id.........od.........wall......bend......psi 1/2".....9/16"....1/32"....1 4/7"....72.......5737K16 1/2".....5/8"......1/16"....1 1/5"....147.....5737K35 that is an insanely small bend radius considering the wall size no? i think im going to try 8 of the small stuff.. just noticed 8.23 per foot of the larger. weird fractions there...

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