recommended system upgrade

mkosem · 07-06-2001, 10:49 PM

hello, I have dicided not to use the P4 in my main system. So, can anyone recommend any system upgrades to improve my temps? I have upgreded the pump to an eheim 1048 since the page on my website has been created, but if you have time, please look over the tweaking section of my site http://www.mattkosem.com and recommend some upgrades, it would be much appreciated.

--MAtt

mkosem · 07-06-2001, 11:44 PM

no dice?

GuyBFF · 07-07-2001, 04:44 AM

You don't specify the tubing size. From what I've observed the Eheim 1048 is one of the best pumps, but it doesn't flow as good as it's brother the 1250 and Mag-Drives with line restrictions.

If your not already running 1/2" this would be the first thing I'd change as it will be the cheapest, and should show decent improvements (although cheap it will require work refiting the new barbs to waterblock, etc. the fittings are the restriction).

Then I'd go after that rad (it's holding you back), the aquacoil would work very well (if you want to stay BE), but at $49.99 you won't beat Big Momma (or go to the auto parts store). Theres also Black Ice if you want to spend 20 dollars more for a more refined product, if you got the cash it has the fan mounts and a shroud all built in. It's capacity is a little behind Big Momma, but it won't make a differance, there both about twice what you have!

Good Luck!

mkosem · 07-08-2001, 10:29 PM

hmm, I'd really like to run a 1/2" system. It's a 3/8" system now. However, where could I mount the rad in my case so that it would fit yet still be efficient, because I'd obviously need to get a different rad to run 1/2". Also, is it possible to put 1/2" barbs on a jaggededge water block? If so, how hard is it? Ot would it be easier to get a maze2?

--MAtt

GuyBFF · 07-10-2001, 02:01 AM

If you where to convert to 1/2" you'd need to get the proper tap for the barb your going to use and the proper drill (usually lists size when you get the tap). Just drill, tap use plumbers teflon and screw in.

As for the rad, I was running a home made cube like the BE unit. There 1/2" compatible and fit inside most cases with some dremel trimming, but now I just got a small heater core (like Big Momma) and it fit sideways in the front of my case once I trimmed a bit of the motherboard tray extension. I haven't run it yet as I still need to solder some 1/2" barbs on, but either one should fit one way or another. Do some measurements and check their web sites.

mkosem · 07-10-2001, 10:05 PM

does putting the res in the front of the computer negatively affect the performance of the system. I put my rad in the back because I was worried, but if it is ok up front I'll get a bigger rad. What is everyone's experitnce?

--MAtt

GuyBFF · 07-10-2001, 11:23 PM

Doesn't really make that much differance. If you want best cooling for CPU put it in front (intake) but this heats the whole system. In the rear the case air cools the rad, but it's not really that warm without the CPU heating it.I had no room in the rear, or maybe I would have had to think about it more. I guess rear would just expell heat from case better. Dought it matters

I'd put the rad where everything fits the best, and leaves you with the best hose runs, and some case access.

mkosem · 07-12-2001, 11:36 PM

hmm, interesting, perhaps I should considder a cube or somethin.....

--MAtt

07-06-2001, 10:49 PM	#1
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	recommended system upgrade hello, I have dicided not to use the P4 in my main system. So, can anyone recommend any system upgrades to improve my temps? I have upgreded the pump to an eheim 1048 since the page on my website has been created, but if you have time, please look over the tweaking section of my site http://www.mattkosem.com and recommend some upgrades, it would be much appreciated. --MAtt

07-07-2001, 04:44 AM	#3
GuyBFF Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Winnipeg, MB, CA Posts: 242	You don't specify the tubing size. From what I've observed the Eheim 1048 is one of the best pumps, but it doesn't flow as good as it's brother the 1250 and Mag-Drives with line restrictions. If your not already running 1/2" this would be the first thing I'd change as it will be the cheapest, and should show decent improvements (although cheap it will require work refiting the new barbs to waterblock, etc. the fittings are the restriction). Then I'd go after that rad (it's holding you back), the aquacoil would work very well (if you want to stay BE), but at $49.99 you won't beat Big Momma (or go to the auto parts store). Theres also Black Ice if you want to spend 20 dollars more for a more refined product, if you got the cash it has the fan mounts and a shroud all built in. It's capacity is a little behind Big Momma, but it won't make a differance, there both about twice what you have! Good Luck! __________________ A7V8X Danger Den Maze II Danner Mag Drive 350 Heater Core Style Rad Thunderbird 1400 (Soon Barton) 512mb PC2700 CL2 Promise SX4000 Raid 5 w/256mb PC133 Cache 4x40gb Western Digital 7200hdd Plus More...

07-10-2001, 02:01 AM	#5
GuyBFF Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Winnipeg, MB, CA Posts: 242	If you where to convert to 1/2" you'd need to get the proper tap for the barb your going to use and the proper drill (usually lists size when you get the tap). Just drill, tap use plumbers teflon and screw in. As for the rad, I was running a home made cube like the BE unit. There 1/2" compatible and fit inside most cases with some dremel trimming, but now I just got a small heater core (like Big Momma) and it fit sideways in the front of my case once I trimmed a bit of the motherboard tray extension. I haven't run it yet as I still need to solder some 1/2" barbs on, but either one should fit one way or another. Do some measurements and check their web sites. __________________ A7V8X Danger Den Maze II Danner Mag Drive 350 Heater Core Style Rad Thunderbird 1400 (Soon Barton) 512mb PC2700 CL2 Promise SX4000 Raid 5 w/256mb PC133 Cache 4x40gb Western Digital 7200hdd Plus More...

07-10-2001, 11:23 PM	#7
GuyBFF Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Winnipeg, MB, CA Posts: 242	Doesn't really make that much differance. If you want best cooling for CPU put it in front (intake) but this heats the whole system. In the rear the case air cools the rad, but it's not really that warm without the CPU heating it.I had no room in the rear, or maybe I would have had to think about it more. I guess rear would just expell heat from case better. Dought it matters I'd put the rad where everything fits the best, and leaves you with the best hose runs, and some case access. __________________ A7V8X Danger Den Maze II Danner Mag Drive 350 Heater Core Style Rad Thunderbird 1400 (Soon Barton) 512mb PC2700 CL2 Promise SX4000 Raid 5 w/256mb PC133 Cache 4x40gb Western Digital 7200hdd Plus More...

07-06-2001, 11:44 PM	#2
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	no dice?

07-08-2001, 10:29 PM	#4
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	hmm, I'd really like to run a 1/2" system. It's a 3/8" system now. However, where could I mount the rad in my case so that it would fit yet still be efficient, because I'd obviously need to get a different rad to run 1/2". Also, is it possible to put 1/2" barbs on a jaggededge water block? If so, how hard is it? Ot would it be easier to get a maze2? --MAtt

07-10-2001, 10:05 PM	#6
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	does putting the res in the front of the computer negatively affect the performance of the system. I put my rad in the back because I was worried, but if it is ok up front I'll get a bigger rad. What is everyone's experitnce? --MAtt

07-12-2001, 11:36 PM	#8
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	hmm, interesting, perhaps I should considder a cube or somethin..... --MAtt

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