BlueCooling - Anyone heard of them?

tazdevl · 06-29-2002, 08:29 PM

http://www.bluecooling.com/welcome.htm

Seems like some interesting stuff. TEC/WB with a sensor and cutoff.

jtroutma · 06-29-2002, 11:00 PM

I dont know about this company but I do know that hell will freeze over before I spend $155 - $185 on a waterblock!

tazdevl · 06-30-2002, 01:15 AM

Bah you need to learn how to read...

Product is a TEC and H2Oblock.

One Thermo Electric Cooler (TEC.)
Liquid Accumulator
Thermal Frame & Cover
CPU Shim
Opening for CPU Temperature Probe
Brass Snap-In-Out & Inlets With 360 Degree Range
Two Universal Motherboard Anchors
Install Manual & Warranty Information
Has semiconductor heat safety measures Built-In

Prices vary based on the power of the TEC which comes in 4 versions $140-185.

If you look at Swiftech H2Oblock with a TEC integrated... it costs $110. Not too outlandish since the bluecooling seems to take condensation etc... into account for a fairly idiot proof setup.

mobuis · 06-30-2002, 03:08 PM

whats a liquid accumulator? does it get rid of condensation so you don't need to insulate or something?

tazdevl · 06-30-2002, 04:59 PM

I believe that's what it does. I sent them an email but haven't received a response.

Hallis · 07-09-2002, 03:58 AM

interesting idea,,, although i dont think there will be any substitute for a DIY job

Lothar5150 · 07-15-2002, 01:37 AM

I'd go with Swiftech. Swiftech products are top shelf and they have a good reputation. Take a look......
Swiftech

Blue Cooling

#Rotor · 07-19-2002, 05:55 PM

a liquid accumulator...... I think that is a reservoir.... but this is when referring to a block, so I have to imagine that there block has an large relatively empty chamber inside, where the liquid can accumulate, and do nothing for a little while... that block then will also have astronomical flow rate figures....

Lothar5150 · 07-21-2002, 03:56 PM

You might want to read this Blue Cooling Review

Brad · 07-22-2002, 05:23 AM

looks like crap. If I was ever delusional enough to pay that much for that waterblock I'd have to buy the 85w pelt, and buy my own 226w pelt. I'd save money, and get a free cpu killer

Hallis · 07-22-2002, 06:41 AM

Yah safe to say that that block is pure shite,,

decodeddiesel · 08-05-2002, 06:26 PM

yeah, that block is a f****** joke. Anyone who thinks 85 watts is enough for an AMD processor is a moron, anyone who think this design will prevent condensation is also a moron, and anyone who would spend $140 for a water block....well....they would be equally as moronic

PolakATL · 10-04-2002, 07:07 PM

Hey i'm thinking about spending $110 on the swifty... but that is a whole nother story. I think the swifty will be the best performing block and tec!!!!

mo · 10-04-2002, 07:22 PM

I remembered seeing this review regarding them...
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MzI5

pretty lame

shaft01 · 10-05-2002, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PolakATL
Hey i'm thinking about spending $110 on the swifty... but that is a whole nother story. I think the swifty will be the best performing block and tec!!!!

Dont know if its the BEST but its what I have........and it works damn good....... If you are intrested check out the system here

I had some problems with seating to begin with.......but on the third try I hit the lottery

nexxo · 11-25-2002, 02:01 PM

I'm not an expert on TEC cooling, but I do recognise "fogging" when I read it. The company makes insubstantiated claims, and makes a lot of impressive sounding but vague and meaningless statements even when challenged on very concrete points by the review mentioned above. This causes me to think that they don't even believe themselves that they're making a quality product.

The build quality looks pretty poor, particularly when compared to a Swiftech block. I know what I'd rather pay for.

winewood · 11-28-2002, 08:42 AM

Frankly, the hardocp review looks like the guy got ahold of a prototype and was peeing in someones proverbial pool. No to be a wise guy, but the unit still isn't for sale... and is called in the development phase on www.bluecooling.com, I would say hardocp's representation that this is a finished product is BS. (Escpecially since that review was dated Months ago) Why is hardocp the only one to review the unit??????? Thats no product final release that I have ever heard of. Do they expect everyone to not see something so obvious? It's not even offered for sale yet. I am still searching for another review. I check back every week, but nothing yet. Currently www.dangerden.com has some cool stuff. Where do you guys go for complete setups?
As for 85Watts.. im still new at this. Can't that keep a cpu at room temperature if thats your goal? Besides, doesnt a larger watt TEC need another power supply? To lower the temp to -10, the condensation would put your system at some condensation risk unless you spent some time and MUCH money in moisture control. But I'm still learning.. so... take this for what its worth.. just and observation. I'm still researching my first project.

KnightElite · 11-29-2002, 02:21 AM

Looking at their design... you can tell it's a piece of crap.

You want the cold on the processor... not being dissipated into the air. Their setup will cause condensation problems without end, since you've got the cold plate "fins" hanging out over the motherboard/video card. As soon as the CPU warms up, you'd have large water droplets falling on your electronics, which is obviously not desirable.

And an 85W TEC is not big enough to be effective on modern CPUs. It would be overloaded by the heat load, and would be extremely ineffective.

winewood · 11-29-2002, 05:15 AM

I know no company who stays in business selling self defeating devices. Regardless of my talent at judging thermodynamics in pic's, this product can't leak on everything it sits on. Logic tells me that. Effeciency is another issue...

Since I havn't tested one, or know anyone who has in its final state. I would say you would have to be psychic to determine if this unit was efficient with 85, 118, 135, or 225 Watt unless you benchmarked it. It isn't complete yet, so that makes testing it impossible. But, I guess its easier without facts to just say "it's crap".

I choose to wait for multiple reputable reviews personally.

mobuis · 12-08-2002, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lothar5150
You might want to read this Blue Cooling Review

a review from hardocp isn't a review its a hunk of shit that doesn't mean anything but anyway i still think it sucks

waterrat · 12-08-2002, 07:09 AM

I read that review to and this block is
a piece of crap

hara · 12-08-2002, 08:47 AM

the coldplate is of aluminium, the block is also anodised aluminium.

Need I say more? Read the [H] review

winewood · 12-14-2002, 12:42 PM

Read the review at your own speed.. but consider the source. Heres some info that Kyle [H] doesn't want you to find out!

http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...&threadid=5213

Oh.. btw.. that was a prototype that they reviewed. The new model has a copper bottom and an aluminum top, per the president of the company... I guess he agrees about the copper!

nOv1c3 · 12-17-2002, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by winewood
Read the review at your own speed.. but consider the source. Heres some info that Kyle [H] doesn't want you to find out!

http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...&threadid=5213

Oh.. btw.. that was a prototype that they reviewed. The new model has a copper bottom and an aluminum top, per the president of the company... I guess he agrees about the copper!

Prototype or not ..the thing is still a peace of shit

I liked the review but i take everything i read on the net with a grain of salt .....

hara · 12-17-2002, 11:26 AM

Just read this:

BTMS replaces all Water Blocks. CPU temperature reductions of 10% to 40% are immediate when converting to a Blue Thermal Management System. CPU temperatures may be even lower depending on models utilized and circumstances. We recommend specific models for all AMD and Intel family of products. Please review-testing page for an AMD 1800 and 950 Duron. Controlled CPU temperature performance is improved using our complete Thermal System, which includes a Tank/Pump and Radiator that are specifically designed to operate with BTMS.

BTMS is designed to prevent a CPU from instant heat failure, therefore allowing time to shut down electronics if any part of the cooling system fails. Saves a CPU replacement cost.

Conventional liquid cooling systems DO NOT have fail-safe capability, which causes CPU heat failure in seconds. Only BTMS has semiconductor heat safety measures Built-In.

Temperature probe opening in base of BTMS allows direct CPU contact to measure temperature. A majority of motherboards do not display the correct CPU temperatures.

Anchors are universal motherboard attachments installed around socket area for securing a BTMS. The Anchors allow custom screws for exact pressure applied for maximum thermal contact and performance. Motherboards should NOT have to be removed. Some boards may not be compatible.

BTMS installed in less than 20-minutes. BlueCooling products are manufactured with the highest industrial zero tolerance standards

06-29-2002, 08:29 PM	#1
tazdevl Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4	BlueCooling - Anyone heard of them? http://www.bluecooling.com/welcome.htm Seems like some interesting stuff. TEC/WB with a sensor and cutoff. Last edited by tazdevl; 06-29-2002 at 09:42 PM.

06-29-2002, 11:00 PM	#2
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	I dont know about this company but I do know that hell will freeze over before I spend $155 - $185 on a waterblock! __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

07-22-2002, 05:23 AM	#10
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	looks like crap. If I was ever delusional enough to pay that much for that waterblock I'd have to buy the 85w pelt, and buy my own 226w pelt. I'd save money, and get a free cpu killer __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

08-05-2002, 06:26 PM	#12
decodeddiesel Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: classified Posts: 534	yeah, that block is a f****** joke. Anyone who thinks 85 watts is enough for an AMD processor is a moron, anyone who think this design will prevent condensation is also a moron, and anyone who would spend $140 for a water block....well....they would be equally as moronic __________________ ...i hurt... do me a favor, disconect me... they can re-work me but i'll never be top of the line again ...i'd rather be nothing...

10-04-2002, 07:07 PM	#13
PolakATL Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The ATL Posts: 20	Hey i'm thinking about spending $110 on the swifty... but that is a whole nother story. I think the swifty will be the best performing block and tec!!!! __________________ ABIT IT-7 MAX P4 2.26B@3.01 1.7v 180fsb Corsair (samsung) PC3200 C2 Radeon 9700Pro 3Dmark2k 16606 (384/350) http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4474405 60gig WD7200 H20> Maze 3, heater core, GeF4 on ATI, Via Aqua1300

06-30-2002, 01:15 AM	#3
tazdevl Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4	Bah you need to learn how to read... Product is a TEC and H2Oblock. One Thermo Electric Cooler (TEC.) Liquid Accumulator Thermal Frame & Cover CPU Shim Opening for CPU Temperature Probe Brass Snap-In-Out & Inlets With 360 Degree Range Two Universal Motherboard Anchors Install Manual & Warranty Information Has semiconductor heat safety measures Built-In Prices vary based on the power of the TEC which comes in 4 versions $140-185. If you look at Swiftech H2Oblock with a TEC integrated... it costs $110. Not too outlandish since the bluecooling seems to take condensation etc... into account for a fairly idiot proof setup.

06-30-2002, 03:08 PM	#4
mobuis Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: michigan Posts: 48	whats a liquid accumulator? does it get rid of condensation so you don't need to insulate or something?

06-30-2002, 04:59 PM	#5
tazdevl Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4	I believe that's what it does. I sent them an email but haven't received a response.

07-09-2002, 03:58 AM	#6
Hallis Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 469	interesting idea,,, although i dont think there will be any substitute for a DIY job

07-15-2002, 01:37 AM	#7
Lothar5150 Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Surf City USA Posts: 433	I'd go with Swiftech. Swiftech products are top shelf and they have a good reputation. Take a look...... Swiftech Blue Cooling

07-19-2002, 05:55 PM	#8
#Rotor Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dione, sector 4s1256 Posts: 852	a liquid accumulator...... I think that is a reservoir.... but this is when referring to a block, so I have to imagine that there block has an large relatively empty chamber inside, where the liquid can accumulate, and do nothing for a little while... that block then will also have astronomical flow rate figures....

07-21-2002, 03:56 PM	#9
Lothar5150 Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Surf City USA Posts: 433	You might want to read this Blue Cooling Review

07-22-2002, 06:41 AM	#11
Hallis Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 469	Yah safe to say that that block is pure shite,,

10-04-2002, 07:22 PM	#14
mo Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada, Montreal Posts: 136	I remembered seeing this review regarding them... http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MzI5 pretty lame

11-25-2002, 02:01 PM	#16
nexxo Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Brimingham, UK Posts: 385	I'm not an expert on TEC cooling, but I do recognise "fogging" when I read it. The company makes insubstantiated claims, and makes a lot of impressive sounding but vague and meaningless statements even when challenged on very concrete points by the review mentioned above. This causes me to think that they don't even believe themselves that they're making a quality product. The build quality looks pretty poor, particularly when compared to a Swiftech block. I know what I'd rather pay for. __________________ "There is a thin line between magic and madness"

11-28-2002, 08:42 AM	#17
winewood Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: in my chair Posts: 574	i dont belive some things.... Frankly, the hardocp review looks like the guy got ahold of a prototype and was peeing in someones proverbial pool. No to be a wise guy, but the unit still isn't for sale... and is called in the development phase on www.bluecooling.com, I would say hardocp's representation that this is a finished product is BS. (Escpecially since that review was dated Months ago) Why is hardocp the only one to review the unit??????? Thats no product final release that I have ever heard of. Do they expect everyone to not see something so obvious? It's not even offered for sale yet. I am still searching for another review. I check back every week, but nothing yet. Currently www.dangerden.com has some cool stuff. Where do you guys go for complete setups? As for 85Watts.. im still new at this. Can't that keep a cpu at room temperature if thats your goal? Besides, doesnt a larger watt TEC need another power supply? To lower the temp to -10, the condensation would put your system at some condensation risk unless you spent some time and MUCH money in moisture control. But I'm still learning.. so... take this for what its worth.. just and observation. I'm still researching my first project. __________________ -winewood-

11-29-2002, 02:21 AM	#18
KnightElite Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Posts: 294	Looking at their design... you can tell it's a piece of crap. You want the cold on the processor... not being dissipated into the air. Their setup will cause condensation problems without end, since you've got the cold plate "fins" hanging out over the motherboard/video card. As soon as the CPU warms up, you'd have large water droplets falling on your electronics, which is obviously not desirable. And an 85W TEC is not big enough to be effective on modern CPUs. It would be overloaded by the heat load, and would be extremely ineffective. __________________ Can anyone else here say that they have a watercooled monster that's 45" tall?

11-29-2002, 05:15 AM	#19
winewood Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: in my chair Posts: 574	I know no company who stays in business selling self defeating devices. Regardless of my talent at judging thermodynamics in pic's, this product can't leak on everything it sits on. Logic tells me that. Effeciency is another issue... Since I havn't tested one, or know anyone who has in its final state. I would say you would have to be psychic to determine if this unit was efficient with 85, 118, 135, or 225 Watt unless you benchmarked it. It isn't complete yet, so that makes testing it impossible. But, I guess its easier without facts to just say "it's crap". I choose to wait for multiple reputable reviews personally. __________________ -winewood- Last edited by winewood; 11-29-2002 at 07:32 AM.

12-08-2002, 07:09 AM	#21
waterrat Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: miami Posts: 35	I read that review to and this block is a piece of crap

12-08-2002, 08:47 AM	#22
hara Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Malta, Mediterranean Posts: 662	the coldplate is of aluminium, the block is also anodised aluminium. Need I say more? Read the [H] review

12-14-2002, 12:42 PM	#23
winewood Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: in my chair Posts: 574	Read the review at your own speed.. but consider the source. Heres some info that Kyle [H] doesn't want you to find out! http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...&threadid=5213 Oh.. btw.. that was a prototype that they reviewed. The new model has a copper bottom and an aluminum top, per the president of the company... I guess he agrees about the copper! __________________ -winewood-

12-17-2002, 11:26 AM	#25
hara Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Malta, Mediterranean Posts: 662	Just read this: BTMS replaces all Water Blocks. CPU temperature reductions of 10% to 40% are immediate when converting to a Blue Thermal Management System. CPU temperatures may be even lower depending on models utilized and circumstances. We recommend specific models for all AMD and Intel family of products. Please review-testing page for an AMD 1800 and 950 Duron. Controlled CPU temperature performance is improved using our complete Thermal System, which includes a Tank/Pump and Radiator that are specifically designed to operate with BTMS. BTMS is designed to prevent a CPU from instant heat failure, therefore allowing time to shut down electronics if any part of the cooling system fails. Saves a CPU replacement cost. Conventional liquid cooling systems DO NOT have fail-safe capability, which causes CPU heat failure in seconds. Only BTMS has semiconductor heat safety measures Built-In. Temperature probe opening in base of BTMS allows direct CPU contact to measure temperature. A majority of motherboards do not display the correct CPU temperatures. Anchors are universal motherboard attachments installed around socket area for securing a BTMS. The Anchors allow custom screws for exact pressure applied for maximum thermal contact and performance. Motherboards should NOT have to be removed. Some boards may not be compatible. BTMS installed in less than 20-minutes. BlueCooling products are manufactured with the highest industrial zero tolerance standards

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