My pin style water block (base)

joemac · 08-23-2003, 05:02 PM

Here is a picture of the base of my water block. The block is a pin style base made out of copper. Flow control is accomplished using the top of the block unit (not pictured). The goal in the design was to have a block that worked well with and with out a T.E.C. I also had a hole drilled into the base so that a temperature reading could be obtained using a compunurse or similar. I decided to use a o-ring to seal the two pieces together. I will post more pictures later if anybody wants to see them.

jaydee · 08-23-2003, 05:15 PM

Looks pretty good. How was it made?

joemac · 08-23-2003, 05:28 PM

I had a manufacturer make it for me. They used several different processes to accomplish this design as it uses a design incorporated in the top to route the water through the pins. This is the results of over a year and a half of testing. But to answer your question jaydee116 mostly CNC

sn_85 · 08-23-2003, 05:29 PM

i'd like to see some pics of the top. it looks very good tho. how much did they charge you for manufacturing it?

Pritorian · 08-23-2003, 05:48 PM

Are there walls inn the top that route the water?

Pic´s of top

please..

Goksly · 08-23-2003, 05:59 PM

looks VERY nice = top job

joemac · 08-23-2003, 06:18 PM

yes the walls are on top Pritorian. I will post a picture shortly.

joemac · 08-23-2003, 07:31 PM

I started to work on this design almost two years ago. That is why my designed will now be sold under www.aquajoe.com . A friend of mine (thykingdomcome)is working with me to get this to market. Well here is the picture of the top the new ones will be anodized gold.www.aquajoe.com

jaydee · 08-23-2003, 07:49 PM

Cool, that top actually fits into the pin array and guides the water through! Nice work.

mfpmax · 08-23-2003, 07:53 PM

Reminds me of my old PVC End Cap Heatsink waterblock.

joemac · 08-23-2003, 07:57 PM

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Cool, that top actually fits into the pin array and guides the water through! Nice work.

YEAP

I knew people in this group could appreciate this.

sn_85 · 08-23-2003, 07:59 PM

im sorry to hear that happen joemac. F* that MSFT crap. i hate that BS. i always wonder why ppl hate others who steal info but everybody(most) use a MSFT OS. guess thats a different battle tho. anyways, i went to bluecooling.com and its the exact same block u have in ur avatar. or nearly. did u make any big improvements over the version that he walked off with? well i hope that you and friend get this out to market cuz i'd liket to see some numbers on your blocks.

ThyKingdomCome · 08-23-2003, 08:31 PM

Well, basically JoeMacs blocks are very good.
So far, our block has been a great success as to performance. We are hesitant to release numbers as, we are learning, numbers are relative as to the system as this forum points out in recent posts. Therefore we are seeking some independent testers whom we have NOT PAID to give us the facts and comparisons. As to the performance, we are hoping to provide an independent reviewer soon for our latest revision.
Constructive critism would be nice, as we only want to give the people a quality block with solid performance. We are going to be selling a dual thermistor compunurse product that fits into the block for measuring die temp, and ambient temp.

joemac · 08-23-2003, 08:57 PM

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Reminds me of my old PVC End Cap Heatsink waterblock.

Do you have a link to it mfpmax?

That right

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F* that MSFT crap. i hate that BS

sn_85 I hate that crap also.

jaydee · 08-23-2003, 09:06 PM

The only thing I can really complain about is the anodized Aluminum top. Just make sure your not skimping on that. Make sure it is a good type 2 or 3 hard anodizing. Have you considered trying a poly top?

joemac · 08-23-2003, 09:24 PM

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Originally quoted by jaydee116
The only thing I can really complain about is the anodized Aluminum top. Just make sure your not skimping on that. Make sure it is a good type 2 or 3 hard anodizing. Have you considered trying a poly top?

I am using a type 2 anodizing for the Aluminum top. Currently I am exploring using a poly top for the next batch. Remember that this block was designed to be a happy medium for straight water-cooling, T.E.C and looks.

mfpmax · 08-23-2003, 11:10 PM

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Originally posted by joemac
Do you have a link to it mfpmax?

http://mfpmax.tripod.com/oc2/wblock.html

joemac · 08-23-2003, 11:31 PM

They do look alike mfpmax, What kind of numbers where you getting with it ? How did you cut your pins?

mfpmax · 08-24-2003, 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by joemac
They do look alike mfpmax, What kind of numbers where you getting with it ? How did you cut your pins?

Not sure about numbers...can't remember much...this was back in 2000/2001 on a P5A board and the rig in the link in my sig. I just remember when I had a under powered peltier hooked up and was running 600MHz, at idle it was reporting 59F...but it shot to 120 under load because of it...so I say it was proably doing 90-100F on average proably without the peltier at 600MHz.

Since it was a heatsink, I bent a good portion off....then I took a milling bit and flattend the outside portion off. So techncally they aren't pins, they are fins.

But yeah, thats how we did it back in the day.

yuanlong · 08-24-2003, 05:25 AM

Hmm... intresting block...
isit possible if you post some temp of its with compare to any maze block??

dima y · 08-24-2003, 06:48 AM

hmmmm searches back in memory, aha i remember, pull up a search

this would be the block he stole?

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MzI5LDU=

BillA · 08-24-2003, 08:58 AM

keep it real joemac
who set up that 1hr+ conference call
without that where would you be ?
and George then stiffed me for $100

keep it real joemac

joemac · 08-24-2003, 10:14 PM

Bill, George was given $4500 to have several blocks manufactured and tested. Thykingdomcome told George to get a hold of you for testing after blocks construction. He was then given information to contact you by Joe (overclockers.com) after he finished evaluating it. Don’t assume that George even wanted to contact you. He didn’t even know who you were. He promised us that he had paid you in full. Now you understand what we are dealing with.
Also take note that the block you tested for us has taken two more revisions after you confirmed our data. It’s too bad you weren’t available to test the last two and confirm our data. The only thing left for us to do is confirm our findings.

joemac · 08-25-2003, 02:13 AM

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Originally quoted by dima y
hmmmm searches back in memory, aha i remember, pull up a search

this would be the block he stole?

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MzI5LDU=

LOL no dima y the only thing these two unit have in common is the same color. A quick look and you will notice that the base On the BTMS is not made of copper Etc, .

ThyKingdomCome · 08-27-2003, 10:40 AM

ItWe will post some testing numbers in about a week, around the time of our opening. We won't need to take preorders, as we will have plenty of units on hand at our opening and don't need to play waiting games.

08-23-2003, 05:48 PM	#5
Pritorian Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 201	Are there walls inn the top that route the water? Pic´s of top please.. __________________ Boo!

08-23-2003, 07:53 PM	#10
mfpmax Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Rockledge,FL,US Posts: 731	Reminds me of my old PVC End Cap Heatsink waterblock. __________________ My old and retired watercooling setup. Watercooled K6-2 450 at 600 Also Retired - Watercooling an XP1800@1782MHz

08-23-2003, 08:31 PM	#13
ThyKingdomCome Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Arlington USA Posts: 21	Well, basically JoeMacs blocks are very good. So far, our block has been a great success as to performance. We are hesitant to release numbers as, we are learning, numbers are relative as to the system as this forum points out in recent posts. Therefore we are seeking some independent testers whom we have NOT PAID to give us the facts and comparisons. As to the performance, we are hoping to provide an independent reviewer soon for our latest revision. Constructive critism would be nice, as we only want to give the people a quality block with solid performance. We are going to be selling a dual thermistor compunurse product that fits into the block for measuring die temp, and ambient temp. __________________ ---------------------- ThyKingdomCome "Seek and you will find, knock and the door will be open to you" Last edited by ThyKingdomCome; 10-25-2003 at 11:52 PM.

08-27-2003, 10:40 AM	#25
ThyKingdomCome Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Arlington USA Posts: 21	numbers out.. (in a way) ItWe will post some testing numbers in about a week, around the time of our opening. We won't need to take preorders, as we will have plenty of units on hand at our opening and don't need to play waiting games. __________________ ---------------------- ThyKingdomCome "Seek and you will find, knock and the door will be open to you" Last edited by ThyKingdomCome; 10-25-2003 at 11:53 PM.

08-23-2003, 05:15 PM	#2
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Looks pretty good. How was it made?

08-23-2003, 05:28 PM	#3
joemac Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Dallas Posts: 339	I had a manufacturer make it for me. They used several different processes to accomplish this design as it uses a design incorporated in the top to route the water through the pins. This is the results of over a year and a half of testing. But to answer your question jaydee116 mostly CNC

08-23-2003, 05:29 PM	#4
sn_85 Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: H-town, TX Posts: 122	i'd like to see some pics of the top. it looks very good tho. how much did they charge you for manufacturing it?

08-23-2003, 05:59 PM	#6
Goksly Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 24	looks VERY nice = top job

08-23-2003, 06:18 PM	#7
joemac Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Dallas Posts: 339	yes the walls are on top Pritorian. I will post a picture shortly.

08-23-2003, 07:49 PM	#9
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Cool, that top actually fits into the pin array and guides the water through! Nice work.

08-23-2003, 07:59 PM	#12
sn_85 Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: H-town, TX Posts: 122	im sorry to hear that happen joemac. F* that MSFT crap. i hate that BS. i always wonder why ppl hate others who steal info but everybody(most) use a MSFT OS. guess thats a different battle tho. anyways, i went to bluecooling.com and its the exact same block u have in ur avatar. or nearly. did u make any big improvements over the version that he walked off with? well i hope that you and friend get this out to market cuz i'd liket to see some numbers on your blocks.

08-23-2003, 09:06 PM	#15
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	The only thing I can really complain about is the anodized Aluminum top. Just make sure your not skimping on that. Make sure it is a good type 2 or 3 hard anodizing. Have you considered trying a poly top?

08-23-2003, 11:31 PM	#18
joemac Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Dallas Posts: 339	They do look alike mfpmax, What kind of numbers where you getting with it ? How did you cut your pins?

08-24-2003, 05:25 AM	#20
yuanlong Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2003 Location: Malaysia, KL Posts: 39	Hmm... intresting block... isit possible if you post some temp of its with compare to any maze block??

08-24-2003, 06:48 AM	#21
dima y Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: palo alto, CA Posts: 164	hmmmm searches back in memory, aha i remember, pull up a search this would be the block he stole? http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MzI5LDU=

08-24-2003, 08:58 AM	#22
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	keep it real joemac who set up that 1hr+ conference call without that where would you be ? and George then stiffed me for $100 keep it real joemac

08-24-2003, 10:14 PM	#23
joemac Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Dallas Posts: 339	Bill, George was given $4500 to have several blocks manufactured and tested. Thykingdomcome told George to get a hold of you for testing after blocks construction. He was then given information to contact you by Joe (overclockers.com) after he finished evaluating it. Don’t assume that George even wanted to contact you. He didn’t even know who you were. He promised us that he had paid you in full. Now you understand what we are dealing with. Also take note that the block you tested for us has taken two more revisions after you confirmed our data. It’s too bad you weren’t available to test the last two and confirm our data. The only thing left for us to do is confirm our findings.

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