Getting hammered....

Cappu · 06-07-2002, 09:18 AM

Just wanted to share with those who haven't seen this little test yet.
It's kinda nice, if it's not fake.

http://www.tecchannel.de/hardware/937/

jag_e_fattig · 06-07-2002, 09:50 AM

thats total ownage 60+ fps at the same clock as the mp..

BTW, i don't think it's fake. that's a pretty high profile site..

Cappu · 06-07-2002, 09:53 AM

Ye... I think so to, but you never know!

WebMasta33 · 06-07-2002, 11:36 AM

I will not make a conclusion until the actual speed is shown....

Joe · 06-07-2002, 02:20 PM

With a thread title like this I am sure Kevin will show up... hes taking a Bachelors degree in getting hammered with a second major in slacking

Yeh its a nice review and all.... but really, this is like seeing the pre-sneak peaks of the athlon. No one will know what it will really do till it really ships.

Cappu · 06-07-2002, 02:30 PM

Ye... it's nothing but a sneak peak.
And they're only running Q3, wich really benefits from the hammers on-chip mem-controller.
But it's nice to see that it's up and running after all

bigben2k · 06-07-2002, 02:41 PM

We'll also have to wait for the custom MS Windows for it...

mkosem · 06-07-2002, 02:53 PM

it should be there tho, it is being made. and regular windows should still run on it, just in 32 bit mode instead

--Matt

Joe · 06-07-2002, 03:35 PM

Umm... there is a 64bit WinXP already.

bigben2k · 06-07-2002, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe
Umm... there is a 64bit WinXP already.

Maybe so but I'm talking about the version that AMD got Microsoft to agree to make, that has the set of instructions specific to the AMD chip.

Jason711 · 06-13-2002, 12:12 AM

32 bit or 64 bit... the hammer was made to bring down the house on 32 bit apps.. however they added in the 64 bit capability... or am i wrong and its designed around 64 bit apps but is capable of rocking the house with 32 bit apps aswell? hmm..?

jtroutma · 06-13-2002, 01:46 AM

Jason:

YOur not wrong. From everything I have read thus far on 64bit processing and Hammer, Hammer is designed by nature to run 32bit apps extreamly well (unlike the original PPros). AMD decided that 64bit processing was in the near future but knew that it would take time to move everything over to it. SO they designed their chips to have 64bit processing as an EXTENSION of the 32bit processing. Quite interesting approach, if you ask me.

Intel went the other way and decided to make the Itianium, which is a 64bit ONLY CPU and made to extreme processing only. (ie. Scientific calculations).

In short, Hammer will run exsisting Windows better if not as well as exsisting Athlons. You do NOT need to upgrade to a 64bit version of WInXP just to take advantage of Hammers abilities. EVENTUALLY when a good version of WInXP 64bit comes out then Hammer will be ready for it.

Till then, fear not! Hammer will crush all opposition.......

WebMasta33 · 06-13-2002, 05:13 PM

Hammer is 64 bit, but still runs all legacy software. IE: anything written for the x86 platform will still work with the hammer.

Intel, like you said, went the other route, getting away from the x86 architecture, and making a completly new processor, for 64bit applications. The only problem is, you have to design completly new software for it, as it is not compatible with x86 32bit applications. Which is both the single largest drawback, and single largest advantage of the Itanium.

Basically, Hammer takes a step forward, but is still backwards compatible (like Windows), but Itanium takes a leap, and hopes everyone can jump that far.

Joe · 06-13-2002, 06:48 PM

I wouldnt call the Itanic a "leap" I would more call it a "controled fall"

jtroutma · 06-13-2002, 07:11 PM

heheheh Nice annalogy Joe

Kevin · 06-21-2002, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe
With a thread title like this I am sure Kevin will show up... hes taking a Bachelors degree in getting hammered with a second major in slacking

damn you sure can predict me

Cappu · 06-23-2002, 05:22 AM

Damn... I was out getting hammered yester day...and I'm also gonna get hammered tonight.
Just graduated from high school, so I'm gonna be hammered the next couple a weeks.

WebMasta33 · 06-23-2002, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cappu
Damn... I was out getting hammered yester day...and I'm also gonna get hammered tonight.
Just graduated from high school, so I'm gonna be hammered the next couple a weeks.

Hrmm.... I've done a year of college so far, and have yet to even be slightly buzzed...

06-07-2002, 09:18 AM	#1
Cappu Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 30	Getting hammered.... Just wanted to share with those who haven't seen this little test yet. It's kinda nice, if it's not fake. http://www.tecchannel.de/hardware/937/ __________________ Best regards Cappu "The Spice Extends Life - The Spice Expands Consciousness - The Spice Is Vital To Spacetravel" www.kabu.dk

06-07-2002, 09:50 AM	#2
jag_e_fattig Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SoCal, formerly Sweden. Posts: 110	thats total ownage 60+ fps at the same clock as the mp.. BTW, i don't think it's fake. that's a pretty high profile site.. __________________ Tearing it up AER - 05/29/87-10/26/03, I'll never forget.

06-07-2002, 09:53 AM	#3
Cappu Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 30	Ye... I think so to, but you never know! __________________ Best regards Cappu "The Spice Extends Life - The Spice Expands Consciousness - The Spice Is Vital To Spacetravel" www.kabu.dk

06-07-2002, 11:36 AM	#4
WebMasta33 Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nebraska Posts: 526	I will not make a conclusion until the actual speed is shown.... __________________ ========== --Soyo KT333 DRAGON Ultra (Platinum Edition) --AMD 1.4 @ 1.54 (11x) --768mb of PC2100 (@140FSB) --Asus v8200 GeForce3 @ 210/490 --Maxtor 40gb Quiet + 2 IBM 40gb 60GXPs (removable) + 8gb WD --Audigy --Maze 3, DD Gf3 block, 2x BIX, Eheim1250 ===========

06-07-2002, 02:20 PM	#5
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	With a thread title like this I am sure Kevin will show up... hes taking a Bachelors degree in getting hammered with a second major in slacking Yeh its a nice review and all.... but really, this is like seeing the pre-sneak peaks of the athlon. No one will know what it will really do till it really ships. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

06-07-2002, 02:30 PM	#6
Cappu Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 30	Ye... it's nothing but a sneak peak. And they're only running Q3, wich really benefits from the hammers on-chip mem-controller. But it's nice to see that it's up and running after all __________________ Best regards Cappu "The Spice Extends Life - The Spice Expands Consciousness - The Spice Is Vital To Spacetravel" www.kabu.dk

06-07-2002, 02:41 PM	#7
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	We'll also have to wait for the custom MS Windows for it... __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

06-07-2002, 02:53 PM	#8
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	it should be there tho, it is being made. and regular windows should still run on it, just in 32 bit mode instead --Matt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

06-07-2002, 03:35 PM	#9
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Umm... there is a 64bit WinXP already. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

06-13-2002, 12:12 AM	#11
Jason711 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 59	32 bit or 64 bit... the hammer was made to bring down the house on 32 bit apps.. however they added in the 64 bit capability... or am i wrong and its designed around 64 bit apps but is capable of rocking the house with 32 bit apps aswell? hmm..?

06-13-2002, 01:46 AM	#12
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	Jason: YOur not wrong. From everything I have read thus far on 64bit processing and Hammer, Hammer is designed by nature to run 32bit apps extreamly well (unlike the original PPros). AMD decided that 64bit processing was in the near future but knew that it would take time to move everything over to it. SO they designed their chips to have 64bit processing as an EXTENSION of the 32bit processing. Quite interesting approach, if you ask me. Intel went the other way and decided to make the Itianium, which is a 64bit ONLY CPU and made to extreme processing only. (ie. Scientific calculations). In short, Hammer will run exsisting Windows better if not as well as exsisting Athlons. You do NOT need to upgrade to a 64bit version of WInXP just to take advantage of Hammers abilities. EVENTUALLY when a good version of WInXP 64bit comes out then Hammer will be ready for it. Till then, fear not! Hammer will crush all opposition....... __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

06-13-2002, 05:13 PM	#13
WebMasta33 Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nebraska Posts: 526	Hammer is 64 bit, but still runs all legacy software. IE: anything written for the x86 platform will still work with the hammer. Intel, like you said, went the other route, getting away from the x86 architecture, and making a completly new processor, for 64bit applications. The only problem is, you have to design completly new software for it, as it is not compatible with x86 32bit applications. Which is both the single largest drawback, and single largest advantage of the Itanium. Basically, Hammer takes a step forward, but is still backwards compatible (like Windows), but Itanium takes a leap, and hopes everyone can jump that far. __________________ ========== --Soyo KT333 DRAGON Ultra (Platinum Edition) --AMD 1.4 @ 1.54 (11x) --768mb of PC2100 (@140FSB) --Asus v8200 GeForce3 @ 210/490 --Maxtor 40gb Quiet + 2 IBM 40gb 60GXPs (removable) + 8gb WD --Audigy --Maze 3, DD Gf3 block, 2x BIX, Eheim1250 ===========

06-13-2002, 06:48 PM	#14
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	I wouldnt call the Itanic a "leap" I would more call it a "controled fall" __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

06-13-2002, 07:11 PM	#15
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	heheheh Nice annalogy Joe __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

06-23-2002, 05:22 AM	#17
Cappu Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 30	Damn... I was out getting hammered yester day...and I'm also gonna get hammered tonight. Just graduated from high school, so I'm gonna be hammered the next couple a weeks. __________________ Best regards Cappu "The Spice Extends Life - The Spice Expands Consciousness - The Spice Is Vital To Spacetravel" www.kabu.dk

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