HELP i just got my peltier kit

WC-TOPGUN · 08-10-2001, 08:00 PM

i dont know where to put the cold plate , i dont know where to put the foam, and i dont know where to put the copper cream stuff , and if anyone knows a url on how to install it . i do know where to put the anti frost stuff and i do know which side is the hot side of the pelt.

WC-TOPGUN · 08-10-2001, 08:23 PM

do i cut a square out the center of the foam for the cpy and peltier , and do i had the foam between the peltier and water block, and do i had foam in between the cold plate

Arcturius · 08-13-2001, 11:49 AM

I think I'm a bit late to answer this, since you seem to have plunged ahead and done it wrong already:
Topic: how cool should my intel 1.7 run
come and see what the owner editor said to me after they killed my rig

But I'll answer anyway

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i dont know where to put the cold plate , i dont know where to put the foam, and i dont know where to put the copper cream stuff , and if anyone knows a url on how to install it . i do know where to put the anti frost stuff and i do know which side is the hot side of the pelt.
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Cold plate goes between CPU & cold side of pelt
Foam goes around everything that's going to get cold: back of mobo, around socket, around pelt, around cold plate, between cold plate & cpu package (NOT between cold plate & cpu die, though)
I'm assuming the copper cream stuff is thermal paste, so it goes between cpu Die & cold plate, cold plate & cold side of pelt, hot side of pelt and waterblock.
Anti frost stuff sounds like conformal coating, so that goes on the back of the mobo, and under the foam if you're using it there.
Finally, to find out which side of the pelt is hot, and which is cold: plug it in momentarily(not over 3-5 seconds), and touch a side, if it's hot, you've touched the hot side. If it's cold, then you've got the cold side.

For a howto, read these:

You should get the idea after that.

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do i cut a square out the center of the foam for the cpy and peltier , and do i had the foam between the peltier and water block, and do i had foam in between the cold plate
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Yes, cut a square out of the foam so it goes around the socket, cpu, cold plate, and pelt. The above URLs show it being done.
As for the foam between the cold plate and god knows what (since your post just ended) I'll assume you mean the CPU. Yes, it does go there, between the package (above the CPU pins) and below the cold plate. There should be more around the outside of the cold plate and cpu and pelt.
NO foam between peltier and waterblock, that's where thermal paste goes. If you meant that you wanted to put it around the hot side of the pelt and the waterblock, it's totally unnecessary.

I know that won't help, since you already set up your rig wrong, and you're pissed, but I thought I'd reply just to be thorough.

WC-TOPGUN · 08-13-2001, 09:20 PM

omg Arcturius you are the greatest and the best person here at procooling i will never forget you for your help .

omg what a guy my buddy
omg im still tripin thanks Arcturius .

WC-TOPGUN · 08-13-2001, 09:44 PM

well Arcturius this is what happened i did everything except put the foam behind the mainboard the tech at cpufx said that i didnt need to.

the tech at cpufx said that i didnt even really have to worry about condensation because my intel 1.7 makes so much heat that i didnt have to worry about condensation .

but after my rig was up and running my lowest temp @ idle was 15c

now they also told me to use rc5 so that my temp would not drop that low when my rig was idle.

and i did .

but when i would reboot and check my temp in the bios it showed 90c but my temprature bay said my cpu temp was 22c

so i opened the case and i found condendsation around the waterblock and in between the waterblock and hot side of peltier.

im useing the z3 water kit with the quad fan and dual pump , and i have the sec 1223 power supply.

for now i removed the 156 watt pelt from my rig until i can get more advise from pro's like your self .

question #1 is their anything that i can buy to spray on my mainboard.

question #2 the fastest i have ran my p-4 1.7 is 2040 mhz with just watercooling,
is it possible to o/c it to 2.1 mhz with the peltier@ 30c

question #3 how long can i let my rig run with a peltier and how long will it live with the little bit of condensation.

question #4 will their always be condensation if i use a pelt, and if so then i just need learn how to protect the mainboard and cpu and just dont worry about the condensation as long as the cpu and mainboard are protected.

and 5th ? i hope you can understand me .

Joe · 08-14-2001, 01:44 AM

Just FYI.. the Z3 Kit is absolute CRAP.

LiquidCool · 08-14-2001, 07:36 AM

Then again joe, he bought a P4 so what do ya expect

FoolOnTheHill · 08-14-2001, 09:09 AM

hehehehe....

WC-TOPGUN · 08-14-2001, 09:41 AM

guyz can you please just give a brother a little help.

WC-TOPGUN · 08-14-2001, 09:44 AM

10 stars ********** for this member

Arcturius
Hot Stank
Member # 945

Joe · 08-14-2001, 12:13 PM

I honestly would have helped you till you started to turn into an ass in the other threads just cause I asked for the clarification about what you were talking about.

next time try not to be that much of a ass and maybe you will get some better help.

resago · 08-14-2001, 01:48 PM

1. you can buy a urethane spray at an electronics shop (not consumer electronics like sears, but somewhere where electricians get thier wire and such) to spray on the back of the MB. you can also use it to protect your cards.

3. even 1 drop of water can destroy your entire system.
4. you will have condensation anytime an object is colder than the due point. - example, a nice cold bottle of cola.
there are several articles on this site that explain what to do.

WC-TOPGUN · 08-14-2001, 08:47 PM

Joe
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posted 08-14-2001 12:13 PM
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I honestly would have helped you till you started to turn into an ass in the other threads just cause I asked for the clarification about what you were talking about.
next time try not to be that much of a ass and maybe you will get some better help.

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EXCUSE ME JOE I DONT WANT YOUR HELP AND I DIDNT ASK YOU FOR ANY HELP I ASKED FOR HELP FROM ANYBODY THAT WOULD HELP A YOUNG GUY OUT,

YOU CAME INTO MY POST TALKING ABOUT YOU CANT MAKE SENCE OF MY NONE SENCE ARE SOMETHING IN THAT AFFECT LOOK HERE SON IM NOT A KID SO BE NICE TO PPL WHEN THEY ARE HAVING PROBLEMS .

SEE JUST LIKE YOU USED A BAD WORD AGAIN ANOTHER INSALT SO NOW I MAY NOT GET ANY HELP FROM ANYONE HERE BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO PULL MY SKIN BACK AND TELL ME WHAT COLOR IT TASTE LIKE YOU ****IN WHITE TRASH WHO IN THE PUCK ARE YOU CALLING NAMES YOU WHITE DICK SUCKIN WHITE FAGGIT **** YOU AND YO MOMMA ,

PUNK ASS BITCH

MY NEXT TRICK IS TO TRACK YO WHITE ASS DOWN

=WC= WICKED CLOWNZ PONK ASS NO YOU JUST MADE ME REALLY MADE

O YEA AND TELL THOSE PUSSY THAT HELPED YOU TO REMOVE THE LAST POST WHEN YOU WHERE STARTING SHIT WITH ME .

AND IM SORRY FOR TALKING LIKE THIS TO THE REAL PEOPLE THAT WHERE TRYING TO HELP ME IM GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE.

SIGNED TO MANY WHITE NIGGERS HERE.

resago · 08-15-2001, 12:12 AM

Hey DICK, hows this for names.

IGNORANT,UNEDUCATED,ILLITERATE,RUDE,STUPID,RETARDE D.

I wonder how you were able to afford that P4 doing anything other than selling drugs.

you talk like an 8th grader and spell worse than a monkey. You probably don't even realize you are spelling shit wrong and using incorrect grammar.

get off your parents computer and go play basketball or something.

Jees this is the dumbest shit I've seen since the 14.4 BBS days.

WC-TOPGUN · 08-15-2001, 12:18 AM

hey **** you , you honky ill whip your white ass ponk

i hope i spelled that right

WC-TOPGUN · 08-15-2001, 12:20 AM

IGNORANT,UNEDUCATED,ILLITERATE,RUDE,STUPID,RETARDE D

hmmmm you spelled all your chit right i guess you know those words very well .

ass hole.

resago · 08-15-2001, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WC-TOPGUN:
hey **** you , you honky ill whip your white ass ponk

i hope i spelled that right

AHHAHAHA NO!!!

its not ponk, its punk. and I'll has an apostrophy in it.

DUMBASS.

isn't it past your bedtime?

resago · 08-15-2001, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WC-TOPGUN:
IGNORANT,UNEDUCATED,ILLITERATE,RUDE,STUPID,RETARDE D

hmmmm you spelled all your chit right i guess you know those words very well .

ass hole.

its spelled shit, not chit.

and asshole is one word.

ASSHOLE.

Joe · 08-15-2001, 01:22 AM

Enjoy your POS Z3 Kit you ****ing retard. Please don't burn anyone's house down with the pelt setup.

08-14-2001, 01:44 AM	#6
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08-14-2001, 12:13 PM	#11
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	I honestly would have helped you till you started to turn into an ass in the other threads just cause I asked for the clarification about what you were talking about. next time try not to be that much of a ass and maybe you will get some better help. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

08-15-2001, 12:12 AM	#14
resago Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: state of denial Posts: 488	Hey DICK, hows this for names. IGNORANT,UNEDUCATED,ILLITERATE,RUDE,STUPID,RETARDE D. I wonder how you were able to afford that P4 doing anything other than selling drugs. you talk like an 8th grader and spell worse than a monkey. You probably don't even realize you are spelling shit wrong and using incorrect grammar. get off your parents computer and go play basketball or something. Jees this is the dumbest shit I've seen since the 14.4 BBS days. __________________ 2.4Ghz Compaq Workstation 2.8Ghz Custom 2700+ Custom still running 2000!!!! Help with Coding www.resago.com

08-15-2001, 01:22 AM	#19
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Enjoy your POS Z3 Kit you **ing retard. Please don't burn anyone's house down with the pelt setup. __________________ Joe** - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

08-10-2001, 08:00 PM	#1
WC-TOPGUN Foo's Been Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: BUENA PARK Posts: 9	HELP i just got my peltier kit i dont know where to put the cold plate , i dont know where to put the foam, and i dont know where to put the copper cream stuff , and if anyone knows a url on how to install it . i do know where to put the anti frost stuff and i do know which side is the hot side of the pelt.

08-10-2001, 08:23 PM	#2
WC-TOPGUN Foo's Been Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: BUENA PARK Posts: 9	do i cut a square out the center of the foam for the cpy and peltier , and do i had the foam between the peltier and water block, and do i had foam in between the cold plate

08-13-2001, 11:49 AM	#3
Arcturius Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin Posts: 294	I think I'm a bit late to answer this, since you seem to have plunged ahead and done it wrong already: Topic: how cool should my intel 1.7 run come and see what the owner editor said to me after they killed my rig But I'll answer anyway ----------------------------------- i dont know where to put the cold plate , i dont know where to put the foam, and i dont know where to put the copper cream stuff , and if anyone knows a url on how to install it . i do know where to put the anti frost stuff and i do know which side is the hot side of the pelt. --------------------------------------------- Cold plate goes between CPU & cold side of pelt Foam goes around everything that's going to get cold: back of mobo, around socket, around pelt, around cold plate, between cold plate & cpu package (NOT between cold plate & cpu die, though) I'm assuming the copper cream stuff is thermal paste, so it goes between cpu Die & cold plate, cold plate & cold side of pelt, hot side of pelt and waterblock. Anti frost stuff sounds like conformal coating, so that goes on the back of the mobo, and under the foam if you're using it there. Finally, to find out which side of the pelt is hot, and which is cold: plug it in momentarily(not over 3-5 seconds), and touch a side, if it's hot, you've touched the hot side. If it's cold, then you've got the cold side. For a howto, read these: http://www.octools.com/articles/sock...ion/intro.html http://www.octools.com/articles/condensation/howto.html http://www.octools.com/howto2/howto2.html You should get the idea after that. ----------------------------------------- do i cut a square out the center of the foam for the cpy and peltier , and do i had the foam between the peltier and water block, and do i had foam in between the cold plate ------------------------------------------ Yes, cut a square out of the foam so it goes around the socket, cpu, cold plate, and pelt. The above URLs show it being done. As for the foam between the cold plate and god knows what (since your post just ended) I'll assume you mean the CPU. Yes, it does go there, between the package (above the CPU pins) and below the cold plate. There should be more around the outside of the cold plate and cpu and pelt. NO foam between peltier and waterblock, that's where thermal paste goes. If you meant that you wanted to put it around the hot side of the pelt and the waterblock, it's totally unnecessary. I know that won't help, since you already set up your rig wrong, and you're pissed, but I thought I'd reply just to be thorough. __________________ Everything aircooled (I honestly don't know why you guys let me stay a member...) Always folding: WXP Pro: KD7R + Palomino 1800+ W2K3: 4x P3 Xeon 500 512KB (4 clients) Linux boxes: none Had to put them to use doing real work.

08-13-2001, 09:20 PM	#4
WC-TOPGUN Foo's Been Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: BUENA PARK Posts: 9	omg Arcturius you are the greatest and the best person here at procooling i will never forget you for your help . omg what a guy my buddy omg im still tripin thanks Arcturius .

08-13-2001, 09:44 PM	#5
WC-TOPGUN Foo's Been Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: BUENA PARK Posts: 9	well Arcturius this is what happened i did everything except put the foam behind the mainboard the tech at cpufx said that i didnt need to. the tech at cpufx said that i didnt even really have to worry about condensation because my intel 1.7 makes so much heat that i didnt have to worry about condensation . but after my rig was up and running my lowest temp @ idle was 15c now they also told me to use rc5 so that my temp would not drop that low when my rig was idle. and i did . but when i would reboot and check my temp in the bios it showed 90c but my temprature bay said my cpu temp was 22c so i opened the case and i found condendsation around the waterblock and in between the waterblock and hot side of peltier. im useing the z3 water kit with the quad fan and dual pump , and i have the sec 1223 power supply. for now i removed the 156 watt pelt from my rig until i can get more advise from pro's like your self . question #1 is their anything that i can buy to spray on my mainboard. question #2 the fastest i have ran my p-4 1.7 is 2040 mhz with just watercooling, is it possible to o/c it to 2.1 mhz with the peltier@ 30c question #3 how long can i let my rig run with a peltier and how long will it live with the little bit of condensation. question #4 will their always be condensation if i use a pelt, and if so then i just need learn how to protect the mainboard and cpu and just dont worry about the condensation as long as the cpu and mainboard are protected. and 5th ? i hope you can understand me .

08-14-2001, 07:36 AM	#7
LiquidCool Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Central Florida Posts: 231	Then again joe, he bought a P4 so what do ya expect

08-14-2001, 09:09 AM	#8
FoolOnTheHill Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 30	hehehehe....

08-14-2001, 09:41 AM	#9
WC-TOPGUN Foo's Been Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: BUENA PARK Posts: 9	guyz can you please just give a brother a little help.

08-14-2001, 09:44 AM	#10
WC-TOPGUN Foo's Been Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: BUENA PARK Posts: 9	10 stars ********** for this member Arcturius Hot Stank Member # 945

08-14-2001, 01:48 PM	#12
resago Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: state of denial Posts: 488	1. you can buy a urethane spray at an electronics shop (not consumer electronics like sears, but somewhere where electricians get thier wire and such) to spray on the back of the MB. you can also use it to protect your cards. 3. even 1 drop of water can destroy your entire system. 4. you will have condensation anytime an object is colder than the due point. - example, a nice cold bottle of cola. there are several articles on this site that explain what to do.

08-14-2001, 08:47 PM	#13
WC-TOPGUN Foo's Been Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: BUENA PARK Posts: 9	Joe Pro/Admin Member # 2 Member Rated: posted 08-14-2001 12:13 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I honestly would have helped you till you started to turn into an ass in the other threads just cause I asked for the clarification about what you were talking about. next time try not to be that much of a ass and maybe you will get some better help. -------------------------------------------- EXCUSE ME JOE I DONT WANT YOUR HELP AND I DIDNT ASK YOU FOR ANY HELP I ASKED FOR HELP FROM ANYBODY THAT WOULD HELP A YOUNG GUY OUT, YOU CAME INTO MY POST TALKING ABOUT YOU CANT MAKE SENCE OF MY NONE SENCE ARE SOMETHING IN THAT AFFECT LOOK HERE SON IM NOT A KID SO BE NICE TO PPL WHEN THEY ARE HAVING PROBLEMS . SEE JUST LIKE YOU USED A BAD WORD AGAIN ANOTHER INSALT SO NOW I MAY NOT GET ANY HELP FROM ANYONE HERE BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO PULL MY SKIN BACK AND TELL ME WHAT COLOR IT TASTE LIKE YOU **IN WHITE TRASH WHO IN THE PUCK ARE YOU CALLING NAMES YOU WHITE DICK SUCKIN WHITE FAGGIT ** YOU AND YO MOMMA , PUNK ASS BITCH MY NEXT TRICK IS TO TRACK YO WHITE ASS DOWN =WC= WICKED CLOWNZ PONK ASS NO YOU JUST MADE ME REALLY MADE O YEA AND TELL THOSE PUSSY THAT HELPED YOU TO REMOVE THE LAST POST WHEN YOU WHERE STARTING SHIT WITH ME . AND IM SORRY FOR TALKING LIKE THIS TO THE REAL PEOPLE THAT WHERE TRYING TO HELP ME IM GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE. SIGNED TO MANY WHITE NIGGERS HERE.

08-15-2001, 12:18 AM	#15
WC-TOPGUN Foo's Been Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: BUENA PARK Posts: 9	hey **** you , you honky ill whip your white ass ponk i hope i spelled that right

08-15-2001, 12:20 AM	#16
WC-TOPGUN Foo's Been Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: BUENA PARK Posts: 9	IGNORANT,UNEDUCATED,ILLITERATE,RUDE,STUPID,RETARDE D hmmmm you spelled all your chit right i guess you know those words very well . ass hole.

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