in-line or reservoir?

Psychotic · 03-23-2002, 10:09 PM

Which do you prefer and why?

I'm gearing up to put together my first ever watercooling setup, but before I do I want to gather up as much information as possible so I can make a well informed decision.

DigitalChaos · 03-23-2002, 10:30 PM

the best place to gather information is here:

http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/search.php?s=

there you will find many answers to the inline vs res topic, along with many other questions.

redleader · 03-23-2002, 11:17 PM

Res is the way to go if you have room. Filling without one is a pain.

Double taps and other designs work well too if you are short on space.

jaydee · 03-23-2002, 11:43 PM

BOTH!!! I like the inline pump with a res. It makes a good airtrap and fill station to which you can add temp monitors ect...

Cyco-Dude · 03-23-2002, 11:54 PM

yes, an in-line pump + res/air trap would be good.

Psychotic · 03-24-2002, 01:05 AM

Hmm... as I may have mentioned, I'm new to watercooling so just lemme make sure I've got this straight. You fellas are talking about:

RESERVOIR ---> PUMP ---> RADIATOR ---> WATERBLOCK

Is this correct? Or do you mean have the pump in the reservoir?

Cyco-Dude · 03-24-2002, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Psychotic
Hmm... as I may have mentioned, I'm new to watercooling so just lemme make sure I've got this straight. You fellas are talking about:

RESERVOIR ---> PUMP ---> RADIATOR ---> WATERBLOCK

Is this correct?

thats about right. a pump / resevoir combo (where the pump is in the res) is convenient becuase its easy to fill / bleed. but the pump can heat the water (by a small amount, it depends on the pump). an in-line system doesnt have that issue, but its harder to fill / bleed. thats why a hybrid of the two is best; the pump is in-line, and there is a seperate res (or fill tube or air trap or whatever you want to call it). several ppl here could post pics of their stuff to show you im sure...

Techguy · 03-24-2002, 06:22 AM

I use an Ehiem 1250 inline, but have a 12oz. dubro fuel tank acting as a mini res/air trap. It makes life easy. AND it auto primes my pump now!

Psychotic · 03-24-2002, 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by Techguy
I use an Ehiem 1250 inline, but have a 12oz. dubro fuel tank acting as a mini res/air trap. It makes life easy. AND it auto primes my pump now!

Again, I am somewhat new to watercooling and I'm not all that familiar with the terminology. What do you mean by air trap and auto prime?

jaydee · 03-24-2002, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Psychotic
Hmm... as I may have mentioned, I'm new to watercooling so just lemme make sure I've got this straight. You fellas are talking about:

RESERVOIR ---> PUMP ---> RADIATOR ---> WATERBLOCK

Is this correct? Or do you mean have the pump in the reservoir?

That is how I have always ran it. Pump outside the res and going inot the rad and into the block. With an in-line pump though the res can be anywhere I would think. I am going to use a airtrap filler tube type deal for my SX830 when I get around to it.

Techguy · 03-24-2002, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by Psychotic

Again, I am somewhat new to watercooling and I'm not all that familiar with the terminology. What do you mean by air trap and auto prime?

the problem with an in-line setup is that you get air bubbels in it.

An Air Trap traps these bubbels safely.

Auto-Prime has to deal with most pumps need to have water forced into them before they can pump. Gravity will pull the water out of the res and into the pump, eliminating this.

here is a pic of my setup when I was testing it.

The flow starts in the Res, pump, heatercore, maze2, res.

redleader · 03-25-2002, 12:31 AM

Air can't be pumped. So if you have airtrapped somewhere in the line, the coolant basically freezes where it is when the pump hits the air. This makes filling really, really hard if not setup right.

Are res near or around the pump keeps the air from ever hitting the pump. There are other ways to do this like a double tap (basically two air traps with a valve between them, you close the valve and add water to one which forces the air into the other, open the valve and you have a filled system), but a res is probably the simpliest.

Brad · 03-25-2002, 01:15 AM

You're best off to look at the cooling technologies article posted today, it talks about res vs inline vs res+inline pump

Psychotic · 03-25-2002, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by Brad
You're best off to look at the cooling technologies article posted today, it talks about res vs inline vs res+inline pump

Aye, I read the entire article and my quandaries are no more.

03-23-2002, 10:09 PM	#1
Psychotic Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: currently in hiding after a recent escape from the psychiatric ward of a local hospital Posts: 69	in-line or reservoir? Which do you prefer and why? I'm gearing up to put together my first ever watercooling setup, but before I do I want to gather up as much information as possible so I can make a well informed decision. __________________ I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it.

03-24-2002, 01:05 AM	#6
Psychotic Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: currently in hiding after a recent escape from the psychiatric ward of a local hospital Posts: 69	Hmm... as I may have mentioned, I'm new to watercooling so just lemme make sure I've got this straight. You fellas are talking about: RESERVOIR ---> PUMP ---> RADIATOR ---> WATERBLOCK Is this correct? Or do you mean have the pump in the reservoir? __________________ I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it.

03-24-2002, 06:22 AM	#8
Techguy Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suwanee, GA Posts: 130	I use an Ehiem 1250 inline, but have a 12oz. dubro fuel tank acting as a mini res/air trap. It makes life easy. AND it auto primes my pump now! __________________ My only PC is a PII 333 with 256MB RAM a GeForce2 MX 200, and 30GB's of 7,200rpm ATA/66 goodness. And yes, I know it sucks.

03-25-2002, 01:15 AM	#13
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	You're best off to look at the cooling technologies article posted today, it talks about res vs inline vs res+inline pump __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-23-2002, 10:30 PM	#2
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	the best place to gather information is here: http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/search.php?s= there you will find many answers to the inline vs res topic, along with many other questions.

03-23-2002, 11:17 PM	#3
redleader Thermophile Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The deserts of Tucson, Az Posts: 1,264	Res is the way to go if you have room. Filling without one is a pain. Double taps and other designs work well too if you are short on space.

03-23-2002, 11:43 PM	#4
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	BOTH!!! I like the inline pump with a res. It makes a good airtrap and fill station to which you can add temp monitors ect...

03-23-2002, 11:54 PM	#5
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	yes, an in-line pump + res/air trap would be good.

03-25-2002, 12:31 AM	#12
redleader Thermophile Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The deserts of Tucson, Az Posts: 1,264	Air can't be pumped. So if you have airtrapped somewhere in the line, the coolant basically freezes where it is when the pump hits the air. This makes filling really, really hard if not setup right. Are res near or around the pump keeps the air from ever hitting the pump. There are other ways to do this like a double tap (basically two air traps with a valve between them, you close the valve and add water to one which forces the air into the other, open the valve and you have a filled system), but a res is probably the simpliest.

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