Squirrel By Balinju & Hara - Page 9

bigben2k · 03-25-2003, 01:17 PM

Well yes, that's what I wrote!

Even if you have to solder a point on top of it, it'll be good!

Balinju · 03-25-2003, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by bigben2k
Well yes, that's what I wrote!

Even if you have to solder a point on top of it, it'll be good!

that would be eccelent

Balinju · 03-25-2003, 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by hara
We redisigned squirrel with the 10 2mm channels when it was decided that my design required too much endmills. You are just being inconsiderate by saying it is all yours and that is simply untolerable. I took your concept and transformed it into something that could actually be done.

i am not considering these types of comments any more. you are so tedious

Balinju · 03-25-2003, 01:27 PM

understood my point ben??

jaydee · 03-25-2003, 01:28 PM

You can round up a small metal file and file it into a cone shape. Or as ben pointed out drop a dab of solder on the top and then file into a cone shape. Why wasn't the cone done right in the first place?

Balinju · 03-25-2003, 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by jaydee116
You can round up a small metal file and file it into a cone shape. Or as ben pointed out drop a dab of solder on the top and then file into a cone shape. Why wasn't the cone done right in the first place?

because when he was milling the cone he thought that it is comming very narrow and he thought that is was moving with the force of the mill instead of being milled. remember that this guy never milled water blocks in his life so he is allow some mistakes

hara · 03-25-2003, 02:00 PM

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You can round up a small metal file and file it into a cone shape. Or as ben pointed out drop a dab of solder on the top and then file into a cone shape. Why wasn't the cone done right in the first place?

There isn't much space to insert a metal file. I tried there isn't place to move the file.

hara · 03-25-2003, 02:04 PM

One thing that I tried to make the cone more pointed is using a really small blade. The ideal tool would be something which resembles a pencip sharpener.

It is difficult to find something to insert there.

Balinju · 03-25-2003, 02:15 PM

there is something that we could use, it is a sort of tool that looks like a dremel but it is not. it looks like one but it is no way near. the only thing that i know is that one of its blades can be used to sharpen small objects and the blade is not that big. it would fit in that size for sure, if i find a link of the tool i will post it

JFettig · 03-25-2003, 07:07 PM

think of it this way, the actual hole in the jet that the water flows through is larger than that little spot on the top of the pin, It would work pretty good even if it wasnt pointed,

I gaurentee youll drop a few degrees by using a jet, GO FOR IT!

HMB · 04-19-2003, 11:10 AM

JETJETJETJETJET!

Awsome work on the block also

hara · 04-19-2003, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by HMB
JETJETJETJETJET!
Awsome work on the block also

Thanks, ok.

Balinju · 04-20-2003, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HMB
JETJETJETJETJET!
Awsome work on the block also

thankx alot man

pelle76 · 04-20-2003, 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by bikr
are there any free 3d design studios around? something really basic?

Yep!... there is a quite good 3Dtool available. I Like anyway and its easy to learn with nice tutorials to start with...

http://www.ptc.com/go/3d/index.htm

hara · 05-18-2003, 01:21 PM

Ok, so new dilemma. To make a jet one has to reduce the cross sectional are through which the fluid has to pass. I don't know about fluid dynamics but these are the possible ways:

hara · 05-18-2003, 01:24 PM

(A) represents a logarithmic approach while (E) is parabolic. Which one is best between the two? The logarithmic? Also, me and Balinju have been debating which is the worst between D and C. I thought D was the worst (with reasons) but he thought C :shrug: (we never agree)

Assume that the inlet and outlets of all approaches are of the same diameter and that the height of all is the same.

Another problem to tackle would be the diameter of the jet and the shape (circular?)

hara · 05-18-2003, 04:43 PM

Question: The more powerful a pump, the smaller the nozzel or vice versa?

bigben2k · 05-18-2003, 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by hara
Question: The more powerful a pump, the smaller the nozzel or vice versa?

That's right, but you should really tune it for the pump you'll be using.

E is best: check out the specs in the Radius thread.

MadDogMe · 05-19-2003, 03:29 AM

Is it speced for submerged BB?...

bigben2k · 05-19-2003, 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by MadDogMe
Is it speced for submerged BB?...

I'm pretty sure it isn't (following up on Bill, uh?), but that would affect the transition area, where specs call for a 10 deg bevel. It should otherwise be as spec'ed, IMO.

If anyone has any idea how to best flange the outlet, please post it!

Balinju · 05-19-2003, 09:06 AM

An idea about lapping just came to mind but I don't know if it works or not.

Can someone help??

Here is the idea, could a belt sander be used to lap a block, and between the sandpaper and the base of the sander, a piece of glass would be inserted.

here is a picture, hope that you understood what i meant

hara · 05-19-2003, 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by bigben2k
That's right, but you should really tune it for the pump you'll be using.

E is best: check out the specs in the Radius thread.

I saw it. Why is E better than A.

hara · 05-19-2003, 03:12 PM

Bumpage...

utabintarbo · 05-19-2003, 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by hara
I saw it. Why is E better than A.

I believe E would meet ASME specs more closely. See "Radius" thread.

Bob

bigben2k · 05-19-2003, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hara
I saw it. Why is E better than A.

The specs call for a parabolic shape, based on the diameter of the outlet and inlet. E is parabolic, A is not (or not clear).

The spec shape is the most efficient, where the orifice plate is the least efficient. Having an upside down curved inlet may make things worse, but there might be a resonant effect, depending on the flow rate, where the redirected flow may or may not interfere with the inlet.

03-25-2003, 01:17 PM	#201
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Well yes, that's what I wrote! Even if you have to solder a point on top of it, it'll be good! __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

03-25-2003, 01:27 PM	#204
Balinju Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 495	understood my point ben?? __________________ So the bullet proof vest aint a $hit when d laser is pointed to your head Kid

03-25-2003, 02:04 PM	#208
hara Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Malta, Mediterranean Posts: 662	One thing that I tried to make the cone more pointed is using a really small blade. The ideal tool would be something which resembles a pencip sharpener. It is difficult to find something to insert there. __________________ - Every great HD crash day is the day before back-up day. - My Past System - "Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven." - Milton, Paradise Lost. - FMZ

03-25-2003, 02:15 PM	#209
Balinju Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 495	there is something that we could use, it is a sort of tool that looks like a dremel but it is not. it looks like one but it is no way near. the only thing that i know is that one of its blades can be used to sharpen small objects and the blade is not that big. it would fit in that size for sure, if i find a link of the tool i will post it __________________ So the bullet proof vest aint a $hit when d laser is pointed to your head Kid

04-19-2003, 11:10 AM	#211
HMB Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 63	JETJETJETJETJET! Awsome work on the block also __________________ Asus A7N8X Deluxe, 2500+@2700MHz (13,5x200), 2x256MB TwinMOS pc3200 @ 2-2-2-11, GFFX 5900 Ultra@500/950MHz, 2x120GB Maxtor Diamondmax 9 8MB SATA raid-0, Prometeia, Logitech z-680. 20000+ 3Dmark2001 Duron 600@1521MHz RIP

03-25-2003, 01:28 PM	#205
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	You can round up a small metal file and file it into a cone shape. Or as ben pointed out drop a dab of solder on the top and then file into a cone shape. Why wasn't the cone done right in the first place?

03-25-2003, 07:07 PM	#210
JFettig Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Willmar MN/Fargo ND Posts: 504	think of it this way, the actual hole in the jet that the water flows through is larger than that little spot on the top of the pin, It would work pretty good even if it wasnt pointed, I gaurentee youll drop a few degrees by using a jet, GO FOR IT!

05-18-2003, 01:24 PM	#216
hara Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Malta, Mediterranean Posts: 662	(A) represents a logarithmic approach while (E) is parabolic. Which one is best between the two? The logarithmic? Also, me and Balinju have been debating which is the worst between D and C. I thought D was the worst (with reasons) but he thought C :shrug: (we never agree) Assume that the inlet and outlets of all approaches are of the same diameter and that the height of all is the same. Another problem to tackle would be the diameter of the jet and the shape (circular?) __________________ - Every great HD crash day is the day before back-up day. - My Past System - "Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven." - Milton, Paradise Lost. - FMZ

05-18-2003, 04:43 PM	#217
hara Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Malta, Mediterranean Posts: 662	Question: The more powerful a pump, the smaller the nozzel or vice versa? __________________ - Every great HD crash day is the day before back-up day. - My Past System - "Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven." - Milton, Paradise Lost. - FMZ

05-19-2003, 03:29 AM	#219
MadDogMe Thermophile Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Just shut up ;) ... Posts: 1,068	Is it speced for submerged BB?...

05-19-2003, 03:12 PM	#223
hara Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Malta, Mediterranean Posts: 662	Bumpage... __________________ - Every great HD crash day is the day before back-up day. - My Past System - "Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven." - Milton, Paradise Lost. - FMZ

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