1700+ @ 2602MHz - Page 3

morphling1 · 01-24-2003, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by msv
Well, Morphling... eh, thats pretty serious OC.
*Darned* good WB! Impressive!
One question: Do you have any cooling on memory or northbridge? 217 MHz (if I didn´t get it all wrong) FSB sounds quite aggresive to me.
regards
Mikael S.

Yeah NB is watercooled, and memory is Corsair with original heatsinks, but I manage to unlock 13 mp so now I can start same 3dmark benchmark runs with more agressive mem timings (yep I'm one of those nuts). Currently 2663 MHz 2.05V 19°C water folding 24/7

If I'm not mistaken N8 bought his 1700+ at newegg, and they are the same stepping as my JIUHB, he's not complaining one bit

BrianW · 01-24-2003, 10:16 PM

Is this the product you all are refering to? AMD Athlon XP 1700+ Thoroughbred /266 FSB Processor CPU 1700+/ 1.47GHz -OEM, AXDA1700DLT3C @ www.newegg.com?

Would u suggest retail or oem?

Thanks,

Brian W

morphling1 · 01-25-2003, 05:13 PM

No, don't buy that that's a tbread A, DLT3C . You need to find DUT3C, the difference is in voltage also tbred A stepping and with A, and tbreds B steppings end with B. But the order code should be AXDA1700DUT3C

tim-may · 01-25-2003, 11:04 PM

i hate to disagree with you morphling, but read the reviews people are putting up here. They are ordering the TBredA's and getting shipped JUICB 0251 TBredB's for 50 bucks. i just got my order in for one, cant wait till pay day to get a a7n8x deluxe to overclock that chip like a mofo....

jtroutma · 01-25-2003, 11:26 PM

Morphing1: It is true (for the most part). Newegg has been shipping JIUCB TbredB cores when the site states that it is a TbredA core. Airspirt and a few other have confirmed this. HOWEVER, if they ship you order one of these and you get a TbredA, you got what you payed for.

Its a crap shoot and even I am risking it

I ordered mine from Newegg on Thursday and am aniously awaiting to see if I get a TbredB.

Lets hope that Neweggs stock of TbredB's dont run out anytime soon

morphling1 · 01-26-2003, 06:01 AM

I was just replying about the codes, and that one was tbredA. But I'm wondering something else. How come everyone is buying from Newegg, aren't there any local computer shops where you can check for inventory and codes before buying, here in Slovenia I can do that in every shop

tim-may · 01-26-2003, 12:45 PM

well....at the Fry's Electronics in Sacramento, you have to get a printed out quote from the people at the componets sections...take that printout and go to the checkout line, the checker take that paper to the guy in the chain-link box where they have memory and cpu's and such there and you get whatever he randomly picks out. Im not sure if you can request a certain core/stepping becuase i have only bought an xp1700 from them way back in the days when i didnt know jack shit about overclocking.

EDIT: just wanted to add that local shops around where i live are just junk dealers...only things they have are p2 300's and 5.25" floppy drives....

jtroutma · 01-26-2003, 03:43 PM

Pifffffff............ local shops around here!?!??!

They would easily try and charge me 2-3 times what Newegg is selling it for. Also most local shops dont know a Tbird from a Palimino from a Tbred. They just know its a x.xxGhz CPU and that's it.

I dont have a Frys anywhere close to me and quiet honestly I wouldnt go there and buy parts even if they were cheaper than Newegg. I have heard too many horror stories of firends and co-workers getting a steal from Frys, just to have it blow up in their face a few weeks later.

I have done a considerable amount of business with Newegg and they have YET to dissapoint me

(not to mention that overnight shipping for the price of ground is always nice

)

morphling1 · 01-26-2003, 03:58 PM

Uff, I never would have thought that this could be situation in US.
I also haven't heard anything bad about newegg, just to bad they don't ship internationaly.

And check this out I still haven't finnished with this tbred

Case on the window with cool air going through my rad. 1.2°C water for the test. And they said that on thursday we'll have a cold front comming

Maybe I can catch that 100% oc. which would be pretty spectacular with water cooling.

jtroutma · 01-27-2003, 08:19 PM

Well.....I just got my Tbred from NewEgg. See for yourselves......

AMD Athlon
AXDA1700DLT3C 4143557260090
AIUGA 0242MPM @1999AMD

Looks like I missed out on the CPU lottery.

Damn......I was really looking forward to 2Ghz+

At least it was not a complete disapointment. I still got my minature portable 40Gb HDD w/ USB2.0 and FireWire support

tim-may · 01-27-2003, 11:56 PM

im with you jtroutma....

AXDA1700DLT3C
AIUGA 0247

.....\me = sad. i was hoping to have a juicb xp1700 baby for when i get a a7n8x and have my agoia xp1600 baby that i got when they had their last 'blow out' sale for some 2ghz+ amd fun...

jaydee · 01-28-2003, 12:24 AM

Mine has been confirmed and shipped from newegg. Should have it Wendsday. I will post what I get here. I never had any probelms with newegg either. Only place I buy from. The local shops are selling Xp1800+'s for $175.00. Worst part is they are actually SELLING them. People just don't have a clue. Normally parts are 2-3 times more expensive locally than newegg.

jtroutma · 01-28-2003, 12:26 AM

I noticed something about Newegg though. After I made my order for that processor, then next day Newegg dropped their price to the $46.99 "BLOW OUT". NOW it seems that the price has gone right back up to the $49.99 "ON SALE"

Could there be a coincidence there!?!?

JayDee: How much did you pay for your XP? The $46.99 or the $49.99? Also let us know what chip you get when it arives.

jaydee · 01-28-2003, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jtroutma
I noticed something about Newegg though. After I made my order for that processor, then next day Newegg dropped their price to the $46.99 "BLOW OUT". NOW it seems that the price has gone right back up to the $49.99 "ON SALE"

Could there be a coincidence there!?!?

I don't know. I got in on the 46.99 deal. Even if it is a A version I don't mind so much. If I can hit 1600mhz or so I am good with that. My best board only has a 12.5X multi anyway. I got one of the better XP1600+ and am stable at 1740mhz. If I can match that with the new one i will have two good DC crunchers.

tim-may · 01-28-2003, 12:33 AM

hmmm....i noticed that too jtroutma. i got mine on the 49.99 deal about 12 hours before they went from "SALE!" to "BLOW OUT!", best of luck to those that are in the process of getting their tbred-somethings...

ive been looking around online and noticed about 3 different low end tbred b steppings. JUICB, JUIGB, and JUIHB
can somebody rank these from best overclocker to worst if possible?

edit: oops wrong person

morphling1 · 01-28-2003, 04:25 AM

JIUHB is definetly the best overclocker.
But you definetly got some very cheap cpu's there. Here after looking at latest currency exchange rate (boy is USD is at all time low)
1700+ cost 83$ here, but can I still find some JIUHB's or at least JIUCB's

jtroutma · 01-28-2003, 01:25 PM

Well, I took a gamble and got another one of those Tbreds from Newegg with the "increased" price

Most likely I will just get burned again but there is a slight chance that I might not. If I do, well I will just have 2 good CPUs to sell to my customers.

I hope this gamble works

morphling1 · 01-28-2003, 01:49 PM

Hope you got B, because the order code show tbred A (DLT3C)

jaydee · 01-28-2003, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by morphling1
Hope you got B, because the order code show tbred A (DLT3C)

That doesn't always mean thats what you are going to get. They just have that up there untill they accidentally find out the stepping changed.

Most of the CPU's I get from them have a different stepping than what they have on the site. :shrug:

Looks like mine will not arrive till Thursday now. Seems to be taking it's time getting out of Cali.

pHaestus · 01-28-2003, 08:14 PM

I ordered two of these today:

http://www.vibecomputers.com/index.c...f=y&vID=138385

One for me and one for a friend (KnightElite). He has a pelt+ water setup, and I have H2O so we will see. If I can get over 2400MHz I will be very pleased; 2800 is absolutely amazing morphling1

tim-may · 01-28-2003, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pHaestus
I ordered two of these today:

http://www.vibecomputers.com/index.c...f=y&vID=138385

One for me and one for a friend (KnightElite). He has a pelt+ water setup, and I have H2O so we will see. If I can get over 2400MHz I will be very pleased; 2800 is absolutely amazing morphling1

dah! beat me to it pH! i got off work just now and was gonna post that exact link i found during school. seems its a +50$ USD premium on top of what newegg sells you, but you're definitely GUARANTEED a tbred B JUIHB.

im gonna ditch the tbred A i just got to a friend and put what i get from that towards one of those tbred's at vibe.

pHaestus · 01-28-2003, 09:22 PM

Those prices are in CAD not US dollars

tim-may · 01-28-2003, 09:27 PM

duh, i should have known that. *looks in top right corner of page*

even better deal though
98.45 CAD = 64.4660 USD
(\me woots for currency converters)

pHaestus · 01-28-2003, 10:03 PM

Not a stellar price, but I KNOW I am getting the stepping I want and I don't have to wait on customs to clear the chip or pay PST once it gets here. I could have had newegg ship to my in-laws (in US) and then have them send it to me as a gift, but this is faster.

jtroutma · 01-29-2003, 12:32 AM

Let me know how that turns out.

I am really hoping that my gamble will pay off but if it doesnt............................................ .........

01-24-2003, 10:16 PM	#52
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	Is this the product you all are refering to? AMD Athlon XP 1700+ Thoroughbred /266 FSB Processor CPU 1700+/ 1.47GHz -OEM, AXDA1700DLT3C @ www.newegg.com? Would u suggest retail or oem? Thanks, Brian W __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

01-25-2003, 05:13 PM	#53
morphling1 Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Slovenia Posts: 468	No, don't buy that that's a tbread A, DLT3C . You need to find DUT3C, the difference is in voltage also tbred A stepping and with A, and tbreds B steppings end with B. But the order code should be AXDA1700DUT3C __________________ [My ftp, with lots of pics, hope to be home page someday

01-25-2003, 11:04 PM	#54
tim-may Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: California Posts: 161	i hate to disagree with you morphling, but read the reviews people are putting up here. They are ordering the TBredA's and getting shipped JUICB 0251 TBredB's for 50 bucks. i just got my order in for one, cant wait till pay day to get a a7n8x deluxe to overclock that chip like a mofo.... __________________ AMD Althon XP 1700+ JUIHB 0302 @ 2Ghz (air cooled) 10.5 Multiplier X 191 FSB = 2005 Epox 8RDA OCZ PC3500 512mb EL (SYNC CAS2-2-2-4-2) eVGA Ti4200 64mb @ 285/570 (stock air cooling) Antec True550 Antec True430 for 220w pelt

01-25-2003, 11:26 PM	#55
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	Morphing1: It is true (for the most part). Newegg has been shipping JIUCB TbredB cores when the site states that it is a TbredA core. Airspirt and a few other have confirmed this. HOWEVER, if they ship you order one of these and you get a TbredA, you got what you payed for. Its a crap shoot and even I am risking it I ordered mine from Newegg on Thursday and am aniously awaiting to see if I get a TbredB. Lets hope that Neweggs stock of TbredB's dont run out anytime soon __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250 Last edited by jtroutma; 01-26-2003 at 03:38 PM.

01-26-2003, 06:01 AM	#56
morphling1 Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Slovenia Posts: 468	I was just replying about the codes, and that one was tbredA. But I'm wondering something else. How come everyone is buying from Newegg, aren't there any local computer shops where you can check for inventory and codes before buying, here in Slovenia I can do that in every shop __________________ [My ftp, with lots of pics, hope to be home page someday

01-26-2003, 12:45 PM	#57
tim-may Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: California Posts: 161	well....at the Fry's Electronics in Sacramento, you have to get a printed out quote from the people at the componets sections...take that printout and go to the checkout line, the checker take that paper to the guy in the chain-link box where they have memory and cpu's and such there and you get whatever he randomly picks out. Im not sure if you can request a certain core/stepping becuase i have only bought an xp1700 from them way back in the days when i didnt know jack shit about overclocking. EDIT: just wanted to add that local shops around where i live are just junk dealers...only things they have are p2 300's and 5.25" floppy drives.... __________________ AMD Althon XP 1700+ JUIHB 0302 @ 2Ghz (air cooled) 10.5 Multiplier X 191 FSB = 2005 Epox 8RDA OCZ PC3500 512mb EL (SYNC CAS2-2-2-4-2) eVGA Ti4200 64mb @ 285/570 (stock air cooling) Antec True550 Antec True430 for 220w pelt Last edited by tim-may; 01-26-2003 at 06:29 PM.

01-26-2003, 03:43 PM	#58
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	Pifffffff............ local shops around here!?!??! They would easily try and charge me 2-3 times what Newegg is selling it for. Also most local shops dont know a Tbird from a Palimino from a Tbred. They just know its a x.xxGhz CPU and that's it. I dont have a Frys anywhere close to me and quiet honestly I wouldnt go there and buy parts even if they were cheaper than Newegg. I have heard too many horror stories of firends and co-workers getting a steal from Frys, just to have it blow up in their face a few weeks later. I have done a considerable amount of business with Newegg and they have YET to dissapoint me (not to mention that overnight shipping for the price of ground is always nice ) __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

01-26-2003, 03:58 PM	#59
morphling1 Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Slovenia Posts: 468	Uff, I never would have thought that this could be situation in US. I also haven't heard anything bad about newegg, just to bad they don't ship internationaly. And check this out I still haven't finnished with this tbred Case on the window with cool air going through my rad. 1.2°C water for the test. And they said that on thursday we'll have a cold front comming Maybe I can catch that 100% oc. which would be pretty spectacular with water cooling. __________________ [My ftp, with lots of pics, hope to be home page someday

01-27-2003, 08:19 PM	#60
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	Well.....I just got my Tbred from NewEgg. See for yourselves...... AMD Athlon AXDA1700DLT3C 4143557260090 AIUGA 0242MPM @1999AMD Looks like I missed out on the CPU lottery. Damn......I was really looking forward to 2Ghz+ At least it was not a complete disapointment. I still got my minature portable 40Gb HDD w/ USB2.0 and FireWire support __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

01-27-2003, 11:56 PM	#61
tim-may Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: California Posts: 161	im with you jtroutma.... AXDA1700DLT3C AIUGA 0247 .....\me = sad. i was hoping to have a juicb xp1700 baby for when i get a a7n8x and have my agoia xp1600 baby that i got when they had their last 'blow out' sale for some 2ghz+ amd fun... __________________ AMD Althon XP 1700+ JUIHB 0302 @ 2Ghz (air cooled) 10.5 Multiplier X 191 FSB = 2005 Epox 8RDA OCZ PC3500 512mb EL (SYNC CAS2-2-2-4-2) eVGA Ti4200 64mb @ 285/570 (stock air cooling) Antec True550 Antec True430 for 220w pelt

01-28-2003, 12:24 AM	#62
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Mine has been confirmed and shipped from newegg. Should have it Wendsday. I will post what I get here. I never had any probelms with newegg either. Only place I buy from. The local shops are selling Xp1800+'s for $175.00. Worst part is they are actually SELLING them. People just don't have a clue. Normally parts are 2-3 times more expensive locally than newegg.

01-28-2003, 12:26 AM	#63
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	I noticed something about Newegg though. After I made my order for that processor, then next day Newegg dropped their price to the $46.99 "BLOW OUT". NOW it seems that the price has gone right back up to the $49.99 "ON SALE" Could there be a coincidence there!?!? JayDee: How much did you pay for your XP? The $46.99 or the $49.99? Also let us know what chip you get when it arives. __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

01-28-2003, 12:33 AM	#65
tim-may Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: California Posts: 161	hmmm....i noticed that too jtroutma. i got mine on the 49.99 deal about 12 hours before they went from "SALE!" to "BLOW OUT!", best of luck to those that are in the process of getting their tbred-somethings... ive been looking around online and noticed about 3 different low end tbred b steppings. JUICB, JUIGB, and JUIHB can somebody rank these from best overclocker to worst if possible? edit: oops wrong person __________________ AMD Althon XP 1700+ JUIHB 0302 @ 2Ghz (air cooled) 10.5 Multiplier X 191 FSB = 2005 Epox 8RDA OCZ PC3500 512mb EL (SYNC CAS2-2-2-4-2) eVGA Ti4200 64mb @ 285/570 (stock air cooling) Antec True550 Antec True430 for 220w pelt Last edited by tim-may; 01-28-2003 at 01:23 AM.

01-28-2003, 04:25 AM	#66
morphling1 Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Slovenia Posts: 468	JIUHB is definetly the best overclocker. But you definetly got some very cheap cpu's there. Here after looking at latest currency exchange rate (boy is USD is at all time low) 1700+ cost 83$ here, but can I still find some JIUHB's or at least JIUCB's __________________ [My ftp, with lots of pics, hope to be home page someday

01-28-2003, 01:25 PM	#67
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	Well, I took a gamble and got another one of those Tbreds from Newegg with the "increased" price Most likely I will just get burned again but there is a slight chance that I might not. If I do, well I will just have 2 good CPUs to sell to my customers. I hope this gamble works __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

01-28-2003, 01:49 PM	#68
morphling1 Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Slovenia Posts: 468	Hope you got B, because the order code show tbred A (DLT3C) __________________ [My ftp, with lots of pics, hope to be home page someday

01-28-2003, 08:14 PM	#70
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	I ordered two of these today: http://www.vibecomputers.com/index.c...f=y&vID=138385 One for me and one for a friend (KnightElite). He has a pelt+ water setup, and I have H2O so we will see. If I can get over 2400MHz I will be very pleased; 2800 is absolutely amazing morphling1

01-28-2003, 09:22 PM	#72
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Those prices are in CAD not US dollars

01-28-2003, 09:27 PM	#73
tim-may Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: California Posts: 161	duh, i should have known that. looks in top right corner of page even better deal though 98.45 CAD = 64.4660 USD (\me woots for currency converters) __________________ AMD Althon XP 1700+ JUIHB 0302 @ 2Ghz (air cooled) 10.5 Multiplier X 191 FSB = 2005 Epox 8RDA OCZ PC3500 512mb EL (SYNC CAS2-2-2-4-2) eVGA Ti4200 64mb @ 285/570 (stock air cooling) Antec True550 Antec True430 for 220w pelt

01-28-2003, 10:03 PM	#74
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Not a stellar price, but I KNOW I am getting the stepping I want and I don't have to wait on customs to clear the chip or pay PST once it gets here. I could have had newegg ship to my in-laws (in US) and then have them send it to me as a gift, but this is faster.

01-29-2003, 12:32 AM	#75
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	Let me know how that turns out. I am really hoping that my gamble will pay off but if it doesnt............................................ ......... __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

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