My new water-block

Paul_Vodrazka · 08-01-2002, 07:35 AM

Many of you may remember the round block I made which was posted on www.overclockers.com. I had a lot of feedback and did a complete redesign. I finally finished a few of these blocks. These are for Athlon mounting only. I will try to have some for P4's soon.

I have 12 of these to sell. Each will come with an aluminum lid and a clear plexi-glass lid. Unfortunately they aren't too cheap because there is a lot of work in each one.

If you have any suggestions on improving this design, feel free to email me. I like the feedback.

webmedic · 08-01-2002, 08:51 AM

Yea don't use tripod for your pics. They all come up images hosted by tripod instead of the actual pic's. Wow but now that I reply to you they are comming up in the replies. I'm confused never mind.

OK let me start over. How much are they? How well do they cool? Would you like it tested in my upcomming waterblock shootout?

bigben2k · 08-01-2002, 08:57 AM

What flow rate are they designed for? How flow restrictive are they?

They sure look pretty

Paul_Vodrazka · 08-01-2002, 08:59 AM

They are not cheap. I only have a dozen to sell. There is a lot of time invested in each one. I have set the price quite high to try and recover some of my investment in time and materials.

Each package will include

1 Base assembly (Copper base, Aluminum retaining ring, O-ring)
1 Clear lid
1 Aluminum lid
6 Cap screws to secure the lid
1 Mounting clamp (look at complete assembly on 2nd picture)
4 Mounting cap screws with washers an nuts
4 Springs
1 Clamping cap screw

I have set the price at $120 USD for 1 complete assembly. If you would like 2 or more, I will charge $100 each assembly. Cost of shipping will be added of course.

If you are still interested, email me. pvodrazka@shaw.ca

Paul_Vodrazka · 08-01-2002, 09:09 AM

As far as flow rate is concerned, you'll have to be the judge. I'll provide you with some of the specs.

The hose fitting ID is 0.375"
The hose fitting OD is 0.5" max
The inlet and outlet on the copper block is 0.375"
The channels are o.125" wide and 0.442" deep
the depth is calculated so that the area (channel cross section) for the coolant to flow through is equal to the area of the 0.375" hose and inlet. Since the coolant flows through two channels at once the depth is calculated as follows.

Area of 0.375 = 3.14159*0.1875*0.1875 = 0.1104463
Depth of channel = 0.1104463/0.25 = 0.44178 (0.25 = the width of 2 channels)

The flow should be adequate for most applications.

webmedic · 08-01-2002, 09:22 AM

Do you have any kind of temps? Any testing on it at all? Look I know about the need for exactness that billa is always talking about but I would at least like to see something.

gone_fishin · 08-01-2002, 09:38 AM

Attach a file pic so we can see it

Paul_Vodrazka · 08-01-2002, 09:43 AM

I attached a jpg. I will put the images on my ISP's web space. I'll re-post in a while.

webmedic · 08-01-2002, 09:43 AM

if you reload the page you will see them.

Paul_Vodrazka · 08-01-2002, 09:58 AM

I'm re-posting my pictures. I used my ISP's webspace this time.

maskedgeek · 08-01-2002, 10:36 AM

that block looks nice! it looks a lot like mine tho

Roscal · 08-01-2002, 10:50 AM

First : Great job

One thing :

Why the copper near the top barb isn't symetrical??There are 2 edges in the copper

. Water flow is a little disrupted.
Can you explain please for this choice (milling choice??)

MeltMan · 08-01-2002, 10:52 AM

Looks like he is trying to swirl the water out of the block. That is the exit right?

maskedgeek · 08-01-2002, 10:53 AM

another thing, why do you have the second mounting top thing??? all you need to do is use bolts and nuts and those springs without the second top.......

Paul_Vodrazka · 08-01-2002, 10:57 AM

The idea behind the mounting bracket is to apply pressure only on the center of the block directly over the core to keep it from sitting crooked. That's what the screw in the middle if for.

Khledar · 08-01-2002, 11:00 AM

Yeah, as the block "splits" the water in half that area mentioned appears like it would control the water well, avoiding direct collision and possibly increase flow.

One thing, it's not real easy to tell from the pictures, but there's been a lot of talk regarding turbulence around here, and I'm wondering if there are any measures in this block to increase turbulence.

Other than that, you've certainly got a looker, the dual tops are nice too, options options options!!! Some really nice curves... sexy blocks.... mmmmm

Great work!!!

Paul_Vodrazka · 08-01-2002, 11:02 AM

and yes, that is the exit, and yes I didn't want to creat a colision point for the exiting coolant. Swirling out will creat better flow I think.

Paul_Vodrazka · 08-01-2002, 11:13 AM

Yes turbulance is important for more efficient heat removal, but more so in blocks with wide channels and less surface area. My block has narrow but deep channels and the sharp turns should generate some turbulance. I'd like to have it tested on a die simulator, but I'm not willing to give one away for that. There's just too much time invested in each one. If I had a guarantee that the block would be returned, I'd be willing to send one out. I'd pay for the shipping both ways of course

Roscal · 08-01-2002, 11:17 AM

Base thickness?

webmedic · 08-01-2002, 11:27 AM

I would be able to test it for you and I will make sure it gets shipped back. It' won't be on a die simulator but I will be using the xp diode. And the testing will be done in a correct manner.

Miss_Man · 08-01-2002, 11:34 AM

Wow. Cool looking stuff those. I remember reading your article at O/C.com on that amazing looking block. I can see the same concept used here

bigben2k · 08-01-2002, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roscal
Base thickness?

He he, that's what I was asking, I was just checking if my fella Canadian knew that baseplate thickness will dictate the flow rate.

Paul_Vodrazka · 08-01-2002, 12:33 PM

Sorry, the channel depth is not 0.442" but is 0.475". I forgot that I went deeper to compensate for the tight turns in the block.
The Copper base is 0.67" tall therefore the base thickness is 0.195".

nexxo · 08-01-2002, 01:12 PM

Paul, I took the liberty to put a little link to this thread on the Bit-tech.net forum...

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthrea...threadid=13129

Expect some UK visitors soon...

Oh, and I don't know about you guys, but I'm ordering one soon!

gone_fishin · 08-01-2002, 01:38 PM

Them are beautiful, the Rolls Royce of maze blocks

08-01-2002, 07:35 AM	#1
Paul_Vodrazka Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 19	My new water-block Many of you may remember the round block I made which was posted on www.overclockers.com. I had a lot of feedback and did a complete redesign. I finally finished a few of these blocks. These are for Athlon mounting only. I will try to have some for P4's soon. I have 12 of these to sell. Each will come with an aluminum lid and a clear plexi-glass lid. Unfortunately they aren't too cheap because there is a lot of work in each one. If you have any suggestions on improving this design, feel free to email me. I like the feedback.

08-01-2002, 08:51 AM	#2
webmedic Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cheney, Wa Posts: 367	Yea don't use tripod for your pics. They all come up images hosted by tripod instead of the actual pic's. Wow but now that I reply to you they are comming up in the replies. I'm confused never mind. OK let me start over. How much are they? How well do they cool? Would you like it tested in my upcomming waterblock shootout? __________________ www.water-cool.com Last edited by webmedic; 08-01-2002 at 08:54 AM.

08-01-2002, 08:57 AM	#3
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	What flow rate are they designed for? How flow restrictive are they? They sure look pretty __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

08-01-2002, 09:22 AM	#6
webmedic Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cheney, Wa Posts: 367	Do you have any kind of temps? Any testing on it at all? Look I know about the need for exactness that billa is always talking about but I would at least like to see something. __________________ www.water-cool.com

08-01-2002, 09:43 AM	#9
webmedic Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cheney, Wa Posts: 367	if you reload the page you will see them. __________________ www.water-cool.com

08-01-2002, 08:59 AM	#4
Paul_Vodrazka Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 19	They are not cheap. I only have a dozen to sell. There is a lot of time invested in each one. I have set the price quite high to try and recover some of my investment in time and materials. Each package will include 1 Base assembly (Copper base, Aluminum retaining ring, O-ring) 1 Clear lid 1 Aluminum lid 6 Cap screws to secure the lid 1 Mounting clamp (look at complete assembly on 2nd picture) 4 Mounting cap screws with washers an nuts 4 Springs 1 Clamping cap screw I have set the price at $120 USD for 1 complete assembly. If you would like 2 or more, I will charge $100 each assembly. Cost of shipping will be added of course. If you are still interested, email me. pvodrazka@shaw.ca

08-01-2002, 09:09 AM	#5
Paul_Vodrazka Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 19	As far as flow rate is concerned, you'll have to be the judge. I'll provide you with some of the specs. The hose fitting ID is 0.375" The hose fitting OD is 0.5" max The inlet and outlet on the copper block is 0.375" The channels are o.125" wide and 0.442" deep the depth is calculated so that the area (channel cross section) for the coolant to flow through is equal to the area of the 0.375" hose and inlet. Since the coolant flows through two channels at once the depth is calculated as follows. Area of 0.375 = 3.141590.18750.1875 = 0.1104463 Depth of channel = 0.1104463/0.25 = 0.44178 (0.25 = the width of 2 channels) The flow should be adequate for most applications.

08-01-2002, 09:38 AM	#7
gone_fishin Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Da UP Posts: 517	Attach a file pic so we can see it

08-01-2002, 09:58 AM	#10
Paul_Vodrazka Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 19	Here are the same pictures hosted on my ISP I'm re-posting my pictures. I used my ISP's webspace this time.

08-01-2002, 10:36 AM	#11
maskedgeek Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: poop Posts: 145	that block looks nice! it looks a lot like mine tho

08-01-2002, 10:50 AM	#12
Roscal Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: North of France Posts: 198	First : Great job One thing : Why the copper near the top barb isn't symetrical??There are 2 edges in the copper . Water flow is a little disrupted. Can you explain please for this choice (milling choice??)

08-01-2002, 10:52 AM	#13
MeltMan Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: KS Posts: 374	Looks like he is trying to swirl the water out of the block. That is the exit right? __________________ MeltMan Lurker Supreme!

08-01-2002, 10:53 AM	#14
maskedgeek Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: poop Posts: 145	another thing, why do you have the second mounting top thing??? all you need to do is use bolts and nuts and those springs without the second top.......

08-01-2002, 10:57 AM	#15
Paul_Vodrazka Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 19	The idea behind the mounting bracket is to apply pressure only on the center of the block directly over the core to keep it from sitting crooked. That's what the screw in the middle if for.

08-01-2002, 11:00 AM	#16
Khledar Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North Vancouver BC Posts: 234	Yeah, as the block "splits" the water in half that area mentioned appears like it would control the water well, avoiding direct collision and possibly increase flow. One thing, it's not real easy to tell from the pictures, but there's been a lot of talk regarding turbulence around here, and I'm wondering if there are any measures in this block to increase turbulence. Other than that, you've certainly got a looker, the dual tops are nice too, options options options!!! Some really nice curves... sexy blocks.... mmmmm Great work!!! __________________ "mooooo" said the cow. ERTW - UBC P4 2.4B @3.01Ghz 167FSB :: Abit IC7 :: 2x256MB HyperX PC3700 :: ASUS 9600XT :: WD Raptor 2x36GB RAID0

08-01-2002, 11:02 AM	#17
Paul_Vodrazka Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 19	and yes, that is the exit, and yes I didn't want to creat a colision point for the exiting coolant. Swirling out will creat better flow I think.

08-01-2002, 11:13 AM	#18
Paul_Vodrazka Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 19	Yes turbulance is important for more efficient heat removal, but more so in blocks with wide channels and less surface area. My block has narrow but deep channels and the sharp turns should generate some turbulance. I'd like to have it tested on a die simulator, but I'm not willing to give one away for that. There's just too much time invested in each one. If I had a guarantee that the block would be returned, I'd be willing to send one out. I'd pay for the shipping both ways of course

08-01-2002, 11:17 AM	#19
Roscal Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: North of France Posts: 198	Base thickness?

08-01-2002, 11:27 AM	#20
webmedic Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cheney, Wa Posts: 367	I would be able to test it for you and I will make sure it gets shipped back. It' won't be on a die simulator but I will be using the xp diode. And the testing will be done in a correct manner. __________________ www.water-cool.com

08-01-2002, 11:34 AM	#21
Miss_Man Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 151	Wow. Cool looking stuff those. I remember reading your article at O/C.com on that amazing looking block. I can see the same concept used here

08-01-2002, 12:33 PM	#23
Paul_Vodrazka Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 19	Sorry, the channel depth is not 0.442" but is 0.475". I forgot that I went deeper to compensate for the tight turns in the block. The Copper base is 0.67" tall therefore the base thickness is 0.195".

08-01-2002, 01:12 PM	#24
nexxo Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Brimingham, UK Posts: 385	Paul, I took the liberty to put a little link to this thread on the Bit-tech.net forum... http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthrea...threadid=13129 Expect some UK visitors soon... Oh, and I don't know about you guys, but I'm ordering one soon! __________________ "There is a thin line between magic and madness" Last edited by nexxo; 08-01-2002 at 01:14 PM.

08-01-2002, 01:38 PM	#25
gone_fishin Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Da UP Posts: 517	Them are beautiful, the Rolls Royce of maze blocks

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