Bong idea

SonixOS · 07-15-2002, 07:31 PM

yo ppl, i got this idea for bong cooling, although i dont have it. Instead of having that noisy shower, could u just have a BIIIIGGG sponge going all the way from the input to the bottom. It will make the system quiter and the water will take longer to get down there (therefore cooler).

ambient · 07-15-2002, 11:09 PM

the sponge would stink like sheeet after 2-3 weeks.

koslov · 07-16-2002, 01:40 AM

Yeah, I'd rather not have a tube full of foul-smelling bacteria in close proximity to my computer. But what if you used something like steel wool to slow the descent?

Khledar · 07-16-2002, 02:59 AM

Well the whole concept of the bong is to use evapouration to cool; this is done effectively by increasing the surface area between the water droplets to the air, so that it can occur at a decent rate. I think by using sponges it would definately slow the rate at which the water falls, thus increaseing the window of opportunity in which the water has the chance to evapourate; however, by using sponges, I think, besides the horrible smell your evapouration rate would be quite poor. Why, simply because the sponges by soaking up the water will not allow the water to evapourate into the surrounding air. The sponge would become full of water, and even if it wasn't "full" it would restrict the air too much. Let me try to explain a bit differently what I think would occur. The shower head splits up the water into many particles, but I think the sponge would almost regroup the water into streams rather than teeny-tiny droplets which have a high surface area.

My .02.

GL with the bong though!

bigben2k · 07-16-2002, 08:20 AM

I don't think it would work either, but your idea is pretty cool... (pun intended).

I'd try padding the inside wall with some thin foam like substance, maybe even a towel. Then you put a sponge at the bottom. That should lower the noise level significantly.

nuclear · 07-16-2002, 09:44 AM

go there http://www.overclockers.com/tips995/
it explains how a swamp cooler works (by sponge if you don't want to read it)

V12|V12 · 07-16-2002, 06:02 PM

WOw, can't wait for you to discover the METROPOLIS of newly formed life that will be swimming with joy in that "Spong!" But sounds like a good story to post...try it out! PS- Post some pics of the sponge after 2-4 weeks!

000 · 07-17-2002, 04:55 PM

The sponge route can be really good, even better than showerheads.... but you need a very powerful fan to force air through the sponges. I tried to fill my tube with the material they use in house evaporative coolers (found some nice plastic stuff), it didn't work very good at all (was worse than without it). The problem was my fan just couldn't force enough air through the sponge to evaporate anything... so no evaporation was happening.

But since your whole idea is for a quiet bong, then you can't really have a super powerful fan (because it will be very loud)... so your back to the showerhead. I suggest experimenting with materials that the water lands on, also if you put a little dish soap in the water it foams and that makes a nice sound also.

bigben2k · 07-17-2002, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 000
The sponge route can be really good, even better than showerheads.... but you need a very powerful fan to force air through the sponges. I tried to fill my tube with the material they use in house evaporative coolers (found some nice plastic stuff), it didn't work very good at all (was worse than without it). The problem was my fan just couldn't force enough air through the sponge to evaporate anything... so no evaporation was happening.

But since your whole idea is for a quite bong, then you can't really have a super powerful fan (because it will be very loud)... so your back to the showerhead. I suggest experimenting with materials that the water lands on, also if you put a little dish soap in the water it foams and that makes a nice sound also.

Alternatively, install it outside, with a blower...

420turtle · 03-08-2004, 06:11 PM

I use an evaporative bong cooler with a shower head close to the top of a 3 inch pipe. I put a sponge on top of the showerhead where the 2 return lines come in. I then added an elbow to the 3 inch pipe, so it points into a sunny window. The black plastic pipe warms up and warms the sponge helping evaporation. I am losing more water now, but the water stays cooler. And if the sponge stinks you take it out and rinse with bleach and then it's all good again. I tried using a sponge inside the pipe and it did not work well for me.

|kbn| · 03-08-2004, 06:43 PM

Has any one tryed wirewool as mentioned above? I think it could be worth a try. Problems that you may have though would be corrosion, as iirc its made of iron/steel, or another ferrous metal?
I definatly think the wire wool would be good, as it wouldnt be restrictive to the air as much, would split the water, slow it down a lot etc..
An alternative to useing steel wirewool would be to get lots of very fine wire like 100/0.01 or something and make it into a ball or another shape, you would need a lot though. or you could make a sort of frame with wire going between it and tied around the ends to make a mesh, and have 10 of them down the pipe, breaking up the water as it drips, it would be like 10 showerheads in one pipe.

Jason_The_Angry · 03-08-2004, 07:39 PM

just a note, they do make copper wool. that may work too, without the rust.

killernoodle · 03-08-2004, 10:01 PM

Yes, it is for cleaning copper pots. I guess they sell it in grocery stores, it is usually packed with aluminum wool type stuff.

ItsSoLARGE · 03-11-2004, 11:00 AM

haah geeze.. talk about bringin back an old thread... kinda funny since sonix no longer cares about computer cooling stuff anymore.. oh well

Khledar · 03-11-2004, 09:13 PM

Yeah no kiddin' about the old thread business I get an Email, reply in thread "Bong idea", I'm like... I don't remember that.....

Hmmmm
:P

Inferno Acid · 03-12-2004, 11:54 AM

u could always try something like this

07-15-2002, 07:31 PM	#1
SonixOS Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 282	Bong idea yo ppl, i got this idea for bong cooling, although i dont have it. Instead of having that noisy shower, could u just have a BIIIIGGG sponge going all the way from the input to the bottom. It will make the system quiter and the water will take longer to get down there (therefore cooler). __________________ -sonix- ======================= Antec SX830 Abit KR7A-133 MSI Geforce3 Ti200 VT128 TV-IN and TV-OUT Sound Blaster Audigy Linksys LNE100 V2.0 Toshiba DVD Drive 40x/16x IBM Deskstar 60GXP 60gig Watercooled http://www.sonixnet.tk =======================

07-15-2002, 11:09 PM	#2
ambient Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 312	the sponge would stink like sheeet after 2-3 weeks. __________________ water cooled 1.4 tbird @ 1580 143x11 vcore 1.88 vio 3.55

07-16-2002, 02:59 AM	#4
Khledar Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North Vancouver BC Posts: 234	Well the whole concept of the bong is to use evapouration to cool; this is done effectively by increasing the surface area between the water droplets to the air, so that it can occur at a decent rate. I think by using sponges it would definately slow the rate at which the water falls, thus increaseing the window of opportunity in which the water has the chance to evapourate; however, by using sponges, I think, besides the horrible smell your evapouration rate would be quite poor. Why, simply because the sponges by soaking up the water will not allow the water to evapourate into the surrounding air. The sponge would become full of water, and even if it wasn't "full" it would restrict the air too much. Let me try to explain a bit differently what I think would occur. The shower head splits up the water into many particles, but I think the sponge would almost regroup the water into streams rather than teeny-tiny droplets which have a high surface area. My .02. GL with the bong though! __________________ "mooooo" said the cow. ERTW - UBC P4 2.4B @3.01Ghz 167FSB :: Abit IC7 :: 2x256MB HyperX PC3700 :: ASUS 9600XT :: WD Raptor 2x36GB RAID0

07-16-2002, 08:20 AM	#5
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	I don't think it would work either, but your idea is pretty cool... (pun intended). I'd try padding the inside wall with some thin foam like substance, maybe even a towel. Then you put a sponge at the bottom. That should lower the noise level significantly. __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

07-16-2002, 06:02 PM	#7
V12\|V12 Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio-State! <--Money Hussle! SUCKS Posts: 292	WOw, can't wait for you to discover the METROPOLIS of newly formed life that will be swimming with joy in that "Spong!" But sounds like a good story to post...try it out! PS- Post some pics of the sponge after 2-4 weeks! __________________ XP 1600+ AGOIA-Y (GreenLabel, UNLOCKED!@/ NF7-S 2.0/ PC 2700 DDR 10.5*172FSB(1806/ 1991 high), Vcore 1.792...@84.95Watts --86' Chevette Heater Core --1/2" Vinyl tubes --Via1300-Stealth Mod(QUIET!) ---Home made copper-tube block ---PVC small internal res

07-16-2002, 01:40 AM	#3
koslov Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Posts: 264	Yeah, I'd rather not have a tube full of foul-smelling bacteria in close proximity to my computer. But what if you used something like steel wool to slow the descent?

07-16-2002, 09:44 AM	#6
nuclear Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Quebec Posts: 46	go there http://www.overclockers.com/tips995/ it explains how a swamp cooler works (by sponge if you don't want to read it)

07-17-2002, 04:55 PM	#8
000 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: TX Posts: 54	The sponge route can be really good, even better than showerheads.... but you need a very powerful fan to force air through the sponges. I tried to fill my tube with the material they use in house evaporative coolers (found some nice plastic stuff), it didn't work very good at all (was worse than without it). The problem was my fan just couldn't force enough air through the sponge to evaporate anything... so no evaporation was happening. But since your whole idea is for a quiet bong, then you can't really have a super powerful fan (because it will be very loud)... so your back to the showerhead. I suggest experimenting with materials that the water lands on, also if you put a little dish soap in the water it foams and that makes a nice sound also. Last edited by 000; 07-17-2002 at 05:12 PM.

03-08-2004, 06:11 PM	#10
420turtle Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: California Posts: 3	I use an evaporative bong cooler with a shower head close to the top of a 3 inch pipe. I put a sponge on top of the showerhead where the 2 return lines come in. I then added an elbow to the 3 inch pipe, so it points into a sunny window. The black plastic pipe warms up and warms the sponge helping evaporation. I am losing more water now, but the water stays cooler. And if the sponge stinks you take it out and rinse with bleach and then it's all good again. I tried using a sponge inside the pipe and it did not work well for me.

03-08-2004, 06:43 PM	#11
\|kbn\| Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: W. Sussex, UK Posts: 329	Has any one tryed wirewool as mentioned above? I think it could be worth a try. Problems that you may have though would be corrosion, as iirc its made of iron/steel, or another ferrous metal? I definatly think the wire wool would be good, as it wouldnt be restrictive to the air as much, would split the water, slow it down a lot etc.. An alternative to useing steel wirewool would be to get lots of very fine wire like 100/0.01 or something and make it into a ball or another shape, you would need a lot though. or you could make a sort of frame with wire going between it and tied around the ends to make a mesh, and have 10 of them down the pipe, breaking up the water as it drips, it would be like 10 showerheads in one pipe.

03-08-2004, 07:39 PM	#12
Jason_The_Angry Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: D.C. Posts: 55	just a note, they do make copper wool. that may work too, without the rust. __________________ "You can get much further with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone." - Al Capone

03-08-2004, 10:01 PM	#13
killernoodle Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,014	Yes, it is for cleaning copper pots. I guess they sell it in grocery stores, it is usually packed with aluminum wool type stuff. __________________ I have a nice computer.

03-11-2004, 11:00 AM	#14
ItsSoLARGE Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: So Cal Posts: 125	haah geeze.. talk about bringin back an old thread... kinda funny since sonix no longer cares about computer cooling stuff anymore.. oh well __________________ Plumber's Goop: The Watercooler's Duct Tape

03-11-2004, 09:13 PM	#15
Khledar Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North Vancouver BC Posts: 234	Yeah no kiddin' about the old thread business I get an Email, reply in thread "Bong idea", I'm like... I don't remember that..... Hmmmm :P __________________ "mooooo" said the cow. ERTW - UBC P4 2.4B @3.01Ghz 167FSB :: Abit IC7 :: 2x256MB HyperX PC3700 :: ASUS 9600XT :: WD Raptor 2x36GB RAID0

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