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Water Block Design / Construction Building your own block? Need info on designing one? Heres where to do it |
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07-02-2003, 06:23 PM | #1 |
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My first waterblock design
What do you thing of this waterblock?
Don't know if its dimensions are right. It's made to cool down an amd athlon xp 2100+ on an Asus a7v333. As you can see it's similar to Fixxit's Spir@l waterblock. |
07-03-2003, 09:11 AM | #2 |
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This is more practical ... : (for those that dont actually have acad)
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07-03-2003, 10:46 AM | #3 |
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07-03-2003, 11:52 AM | #4 |
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It's a little bit diffrent...
the center walls is a lot thinner in this design
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07-13-2003, 09:54 AM | #5 |
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I did go the cheap way and it worked fine for me, here you can check how I made it: http://www.eng.losconectados.com
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07-13-2003, 10:09 AM | #6 |
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liquidcooler....
Now pardon me for my stupidness.... but how did you get the holes in every 2nd fin of that sink.... you did a damn sweet job man.... this is good stuff....
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07-13-2003, 01:11 PM | #7 |
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Hahaha, that's easy: I did the other way round: first I drilled one hole till the end and then covered with epoxy (mixed with aluminum powder) every second hole.
I like very much your publishing of you system temperature and load (though I couldn't see them). Compared to what I've been reading around my system is clearly an underperformer, but I don't believe there can be such big differences. The difference in temperature between the water (measured at the waterblock) and the processor (measured by the Asus Probe) is very stable at 10 ºC. I can lower the water temperature giving more power to the radiator fan, but what really worries me is these 10 ºC, I don't really believe the waterblock perfomance can be so bad compared to others. Last edited by liquidcooler; 07-13-2003 at 01:29 PM. |
07-13-2003, 06:16 PM | #8 |
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aaaa but that is cheating....
you mean you can't see a picture, when clicking the link in my sig? it should look like this.. your temps sounds reasonable, remember that your block design has a lot of smooth long flat surfaces. That is very advantageous for laminar flow. Which in turn, is very bad for block performance. The Zig-ZAG of the flow path helps a lot to overcome this drawback though, from there your very respectable temps.
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07-14-2003, 12:06 AM | #9 |
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I didn't mean to cheat, sorry for some reason in the English version there was not the pic, anyway in the pic you don't see very well the holes covered.
I did some testing using the waterblock with transparent walls and the flow was clearly turbulent (though when testing it did'nt share the pump with the PSU and GPU). The flow doesn't need to be laminar just because the walls are flat, it depends on the Reynolds number which in turn depends on the fluid density, pipe diameter and the fluid velocity. I didn't bother to calculate it for this case because I "saw" the flow was turbulent. |
07-14-2003, 02:23 AM | #10 |
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How will you keep the water flowing through the spiral without it leaking over its sides
sorry, I"m a noOb. |
07-15-2003, 08:55 AM | #11 |
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Sorry , but for what is this
Tanks
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07-15-2003, 08:59 AM | #12 |
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It's a motherboard backplate.
You mount it behind (or under) your mother board, and it's supposed to help prevent the board from bending, as the mounting pressure is applied. |
07-16-2003, 08:02 AM | #13 |
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What material can it be made ?
Acrilic?................or cooper...............
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07-16-2003, 08:21 AM | #14 |
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the backplate is made of alluminium with 4 plastic washer
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07-16-2003, 08:32 AM | #15 | |
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Wón´t that be really hard too mill when you have so thin walls. i thought that the mill varied some i width when it took turns. -P-
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07-16-2003, 08:41 AM | #16 |
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You people should check this block out:
http://forum.sweclockers.com/showthr...hreadid=163491 Although the page is in Swedish, the pics is the important thing. The really bad-ass thing about the block is that it has a silver bottom! You clearly see the silver part of the block on pic 2. |
07-16-2003, 09:49 AM | #17 |
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It´s only got a silver bottom, not the innards of the block, so i would think that the TIM joint between the copper and silver would just make the silver a total wast, IMO.
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I have ordered a block. |
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07-16-2003, 11:48 AM | #19 |
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Best of all (by far): http://www.3dnet.hr/dr-ice11-en-01.html
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07-29-2003, 12:34 AM | #22 |
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wouldn't heat travel better through those walls if they were thicker?
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I'm surprised more people don't use a backplate mobo bending can realy **** up the equilibrium of you mounting pressure leading to an uneven mount and poor temps. Graphics cards especialy bow like crazy when the holes are used to mount a block, it can't be good for the traces, 'specialy the inner ones!... |
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07-30-2003, 05:20 AM | #25 |
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Cool ...
It's such a good idea I don't know why nobody's used it much before now . I have a few perfect bits of Alu laying around I'm going to use. I'll 'double' the VPU~card one up as a 'rear' heatsink. I'd prefer to use some polycarb for the mobo one but don't have a 'score' where I live for it... |
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