Question regarding SolidWorks

Phant0m51 · 05-23-2003, 04:15 PM

My friend just received SolidWorks 2001 Plus at his work, but it is having some problems. When he is constructing anything, if he moves his mouse over one of the edges of the objects he's working with, everything dissapears except for the one edge he moved over. He has to click outside of his objects for everything to show again.

Any ideas? He's using Windows XP, an ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, and he just updated his display drivers.

Thanks,
Jonathan

WaterPimp · 05-24-2003, 04:27 AM

The Problem is with the video card. Solidworks does not support ATI type video cards. Even the older versions of Solidworks. You need to get your self an NVIDA Quadro4 card or even a Quadro2. I have Solidworks 2003 and I am running a Quadro4 980Xgl (about a $650-$700 card) but you can get the Quadro2 for under $100 bucks. They will work fine as long as you keep your models simple. And Waterblocks are a simple model.

JCYC5 · 05-24-2003, 04:47 AM

It works with my Ti4200...

and for some reason, I can't use the top bar, with the minimize, maximize and close buttons aswell as the File, Edit etc bra... dunno why. lol.

Phant0m51 · 05-24-2003, 10:40 AM

Thanks for the advice. I'm going to see if I can get a Quadro 2, and get that in his computer. Do they make Quadro 2's in PCI? If you have to do research, don't worry, I'm going to go and get on Google tomorrow, so I'll check it out if you don't know off the top of your head.

Thanks again,
Jonathan

Zymrgy · 05-24-2003, 10:59 AM

even for simple models such as a waterblock, even a GeForce 2 MX class vid card works very well with Solidworks. One guy at work only uses a GeForce 256 with acceptable results. ( with the right driver, that is ) Unless you are planning on going all doing alot of modeling....I would not spend the extra money on a quatro based card.

This sounds like one of ATI's famous driver issues. Thsi card should work with Solidworks... http://www.solidworks.com/pages/serv...ardreport.html

what I would o is for to the forums at www.solidmag.com or the solidworks forum on their website & see if anyone has had any success with what driver....

W1zzard · 05-26-2003, 05:35 AM

i can confirm this problem with my 9500 card .. running in software opengl works fine tho .. especially for waterblock which are rather simple in construction

bigben2k · 05-26-2003, 08:49 AM

The only reason I was going to spend up to $200 for a VC, is to run SW2K3, now I have to rethink it all!

The Matrox Parhelia is starting to look good! What the heck is a Quadro4?

GTA · 05-26-2003, 10:15 AM

A Quadro 4 or any Quadro is a variation on a GeForce, and designed specifically for CAD design, 2D apps etc.

If I remember right, you can convert a Geforce to a quadro with some simple soldering, or at least you could with the Old GeForce 2 cards.

Matrox still rule this area though, and have yet to be touched in my opinion, at least without shelling out a LOT of cash for a specialist card.

Zymrgy · 05-26-2003, 11:22 AM

the Quadro series are pretty much the best at what they do...however, these cards tend to be pretty damn expensive. However...there is a very good option out there that I KNOW that works....SoftQuadro..

Quote:

from some random webpage
SoftQuadro is widely used by students and professionals that want to get the most out of their NVIDIA GeForce(x) cards. The professional level cards by NVIDIA, such as Quadro, Quadro2 and Quadro DCC & so on share the same GPU with the GeForce cards. The only difference in performance is that Quadro cards use special Professional features that are disabled in the GeForce cards. Until SoftQuadro was released, the only way to turn GeForce cards into Quadros was to physically solder several transistors on the boards thus forcing the card to send back a Device ID that corresponds to a Quadro card, thus enabling the drivers to recognize it as such. SoftQuadro simply patches the drivers and forces the Professional features of the card to be used.

so, what I would do on this on this is spend about $150 on a GF4 Ti4200 & patch the sucker to a Quadro 4 & save $200. Yes, it does work & the performance increase is there.
http://download.guru3d.com/rivatuner/

The Matrox is way over priced for what it can do. The card is now 1 year old & has yet to drop in price & the drivers have yet to boost much performance out of it. Back when it was introduced, the GF4 was beating it & nVidia actually improves their drivers.
http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic...rhelia-30.html

bigben2k · 05-26-2003, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zymrgy
...so, what I would do on this on this is spend about $150 on a GF4 Ti4200 & patch the sucker to a Quadro 4 & save $200. Yes, it does work & the performance increase is there.
http://download.guru3d.com/rivatuner/

That'll work, thanks!

utabintarbo · 05-26-2003, 07:37 PM

I don't seem to have much problem running SolidWorks on my ATI-based PC's.

I think some facts need checking.

Bob

satanicoo · 05-26-2003, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zymrgy
the Quadro series are pretty much the best at what they do...however, these cards tend to be pretty damn expensive. However...there is a very good option out there that I KNOW that works....SoftQuadro..

so, what I would do on this on this is spend about $150 on a GF4 Ti4200 & patch the sucker to a Quadro 4 & save $200. Yes, it does work & the performance increase is there.
http://download.guru3d.com/rivatuner/

The Matrox is way over priced for what it can do. The card is now 1 year old & has yet to drop in price & the drivers have yet to boost much performance out of it. Back when it was introduced, the GF4 was beating it & nVidia actually improves their drivers.
http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic...rhelia-30.html

Heeey dude, coul you tell me a link where i can check how to MOD a geforce 2 gts to a Quadro?
I have one here w8ting for the garbage....

bigben2k · 05-27-2003, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by utabintarbo
I don't seem to have much problem running SolidWorks on my ATI-based PC's.

I think some facts need checking.

You might be right.

The SolidWorks website doesn't make a clear mention of the 9700 pro.

Which card do you use?

utabintarbo · 05-27-2003, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigben2k
You might be right.

The SolidWorks website doesn't make a clear mention of the 9700 pro.

Which card do you use?

Well, all of mine are pre-Radeon7000 + a FireGL. I have yet to try it with my Radeon 8500. If it is a problem, I will report back.

Bob

bigben2k · 05-27-2003, 12:41 PM

going through the SW Forums...

There's a user that reports installing the NVidia driver 45.31, and states that everything is fine, and that it's "already configured for SolidWorks".

Nothing on ATI.

05-23-2003, 04:15 PM	#1
Phant0m51 Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah Posts: 160	Question regarding SolidWorks My friend just received SolidWorks 2001 Plus at his work, but it is having some problems. When he is constructing anything, if he moves his mouse over one of the edges of the objects he's working with, everything dissapears except for the one edge he moved over. He has to click outside of his objects for everything to show again. Any ideas? He's using Windows XP, an ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, and he just updated his display drivers. Thanks, Jonathan

05-24-2003, 04:27 AM	#2
WaterPimp Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Washington Posts: 15	The Problem is with the video card. Solidworks does not support ATI type video cards. Even the older versions of Solidworks. You need to get your self an NVIDA Quadro4 card or even a Quadro2. I have Solidworks 2003 and I am running a Quadro4 980Xgl (about a $650-$700 card) but you can get the Quadro2 for under $100 bucks. They will work fine as long as you keep your models simple. And Waterblocks are a simple model. __________________ AMD 1700+ (OC'ed @ 2405)(1.95V) Abit NF7-S (ver 1.2) XP Pro, 120GB HDD, HyperX 1GB eVGA 5900U (575/1.1Ghz) Maze4 gpu Custom Rokk Block, DD Chipset cooler BIX2 & ThermalChill Rads Eheim 1250 & Danner Mag 3

05-26-2003, 08:49 AM	#7
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	The only reason I was going to spend up to $200 for a VC, is to run SW2K3, now I have to rethink it all! The Matrox Parhelia is starting to look good! What the heck is a Quadro4? __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

05-26-2003, 07:37 PM	#11
utabintarbo Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sterling Hts., MI Posts: 496	I don't seem to have much problem running SolidWorks on my ATI-based PC's. I think some facts need checking. Bob __________________ Sarcasm is yet another of the free services we offer!

05-27-2003, 12:41 PM	#15
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	going through the SW Forums... There's a user that reports installing the NVidia driver 45.31, and states that everything is fine, and that it's "already configured for SolidWorks". Nothing on ATI. __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

05-24-2003, 04:47 AM	#3
JCYC5 Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 102	It works with my Ti4200... and for some reason, I can't use the top bar, with the minimize, maximize and close buttons aswell as the File, Edit etc bra... dunno why. lol.

05-24-2003, 10:40 AM	#4
Phant0m51 Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah Posts: 160	Thanks for the advice. I'm going to see if I can get a Quadro 2, and get that in his computer. Do they make Quadro 2's in PCI? If you have to do research, don't worry, I'm going to go and get on Google tomorrow, so I'll check it out if you don't know off the top of your head. Thanks again, Jonathan

05-24-2003, 10:59 AM	#5
Zymrgy Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: USA Posts: 96	even for simple models such as a waterblock, even a GeForce 2 MX class vid card works very well with Solidworks. One guy at work only uses a GeForce 256 with acceptable results. ( with the right driver, that is ) Unless you are planning on going all doing alot of modeling....I would not spend the extra money on a quatro based card. This sounds like one of ATI's famous driver issues. Thsi card should work with Solidworks... http://www.solidworks.com/pages/serv...ardreport.html what I would o is for to the forums at www.solidmag.com or the solidworks forum on their website & see if anyone has had any success with what driver....

05-26-2003, 05:35 AM	#6
W1zzard Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 25	i can confirm this problem with my 9500 card .. running in software opengl works fine tho .. especially for waterblock which are rather simple in construction

05-26-2003, 10:15 AM	#8
GTA Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK - Bristol Posts: 134	A Quadro 4 or any Quadro is a variation on a GeForce, and designed specifically for CAD design, 2D apps etc. If I remember right, you can convert a Geforce to a quadro with some simple soldering, or at least you could with the Old GeForce 2 cards. Matrox still rule this area though, and have yet to be touched in my opinion, at least without shelling out a LOT of cash for a specialist card.

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