Any Hint on when the Black Ice X-Flow (Single Pass) rads are coming out?

kaotic504 · 07-07-2005, 07:09 PM

i was just wondering if anyone had any "inside" info of when DangerDen is going to sell them or when HWLabs intends to release them. I noticed the ThermoChill PA160, finally on the DD website today and was just wondering about the new stage of Single Pass radiators hitting the market.

Cathar · 07-07-2005, 07:42 PM

Always remember, single-pass isn't always best, especially for water-cooling loop scenarios.

Works okay/well for single-core (one row of tubes), but for dual-core (two rows of tubes) it may turn out worse as per-tube velocity drops too low.

As with all things, there is a time and place for them dependent upon the application. If single-pass were always better for dual-row cores, then all dual-core heater-cores would all be made single-pass by the car manufacturers, but they're not.

Car radiators are single pass because they have flow rates high enough to keep per-tube velocity up high enough to make it worthwhile, which is why they typically have 1" ID ports on them.

The PA160 was single-pass because it is a single-core radiator.

EnJoY · 07-08-2005, 01:10 PM

Radiical has a single pass single, double, and triple 120mm rad like a BIX/Thermochill.

What are your thoughts on those Cathar?

http://www.radiical.com.au/

pHaestus · 07-08-2005, 01:46 PM

My single pass BI Pro3 is also single core

j813 · 07-08-2005, 02:40 PM

pH is that the prototype?

Cathar · 07-08-2005, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnJoY

Radiical has a single pass single, double, and triple 120mm rad like a BIX/Thermochill.

What are your thoughts on those Cathar?

http://www.radiical.com.au/

http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php...3&postcount=37

javascripterror is the owner of http://www.radiical.com.au/ who particularly dislikes anyone asking "Where's the data to backup a manufacturer's claims?".

I'm not saying anything about his stuff.

EnJoY · 07-08-2005, 06:26 PM

I've seen him talk to you that way before, but didn't realize it was that serious. Well that's enough info for me Stew, thanks.

Btw, may be getting a second-hand G5 Stew. Iwaki RD20 or Panworld equivilant will be going on it.

BRiT · 07-08-2005, 06:32 PM

I wouldn't trust any store that wont provide data to substantiate their claims. Sounds really sleazy to me and I'd avoid doing business with that sort at all costs.

07-07-2005, 07:09 PM	#1
kaotic504 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Orleans Posts: 86	Any Hint on when the Black Ice X-Flow (Single Pass) rads are coming out? i was just wondering if anyone had any "inside" info of when DangerDen is going to sell them or when HWLabs intends to release them. I noticed the ThermoChill PA160, finally on the DD website today and was just wondering about the new stage of Single Pass radiators hitting the market.

07-08-2005, 01:10 PM	#3
EnJoY Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 50	Radiical has a single pass single, double, and triple 120mm rad like a BIX/Thermochill. What are your thoughts on those Cathar? http://www.radiical.com.au/ __________________ \| Co-Founder & Administrator @ VλLVeForums.Com \| Site Director & Editor in Chief @ HL2Online.Com \| News Editor & Reviewer @ techPowerUp.Com \| AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice @ 2800MHz (10x280) 1.60v \| DFI LanParty UT NF4 Ultra-D - BIOS: 5/10-2FIX \| (2x512MB) Corsair PC2700 BH6 2-2-2-5 @ 265MHz (DDR530) 3.5v \| BBA X850 XT @ 635/640 - Omega 5.7 \| Watercooling on the way... The New 2x1GB/1x1GB OC Database!

07-08-2005, 01:46 PM	#4
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	My single pass BI Pro3 is also single core __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

07-08-2005, 06:26 PM	#7
EnJoY Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 50	I've seen him talk to you that way before, but didn't realize it was that serious. Well that's enough info for me Stew, thanks. Btw, may be getting a second-hand G5 Stew. Iwaki RD20 or Panworld equivilant will be going on it. __________________ \| Co-Founder & Administrator @ VλLVeForums.Com \| Site Director & Editor in Chief @ HL2Online.Com \| News Editor & Reviewer @ techPowerUp.Com \| AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice @ 2800MHz (10x280) 1.60v \| DFI LanParty UT NF4 Ultra-D - BIOS: 5/10-2FIX \| (2x512MB) Corsair PC2700 BH6 2-2-2-5 @ 265MHz (DDR530) 3.5v \| BBA X850 XT @ 635/640 - Omega 5.7 \| Watercooling on the way... The New 2x1GB/1x1GB OC Database!

07-08-2005, 06:32 PM	#8
BRiT Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 39	I wouldn't trust any store that wont provide data to substantiate their claims. Sounds really sleazy to me and I'd avoid doing business with that sort at all costs. __________________ --\|BRiT\| / WTF?! "That which does not kill you, makes you wish it did."

07-07-2005, 07:42 PM	#2
Cathar Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,538	Always remember, single-pass isn't always best, especially for water-cooling loop scenarios. Works okay/well for single-core (one row of tubes), but for dual-core (two rows of tubes) it may turn out worse as per-tube velocity drops too low. As with all things, there is a time and place for them dependent upon the application. If single-pass were always better for dual-row cores, then all dual-core heater-cores would all be made single-pass by the car manufacturers, but they're not. Car radiators are single pass because they have flow rates high enough to keep per-tube velocity up high enough to make it worthwhile, which is why they typically have 1" ID ports on them. The PA160 was single-pass because it is a single-core radiator.

07-08-2005, 02:40 PM	#5
j813 Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: southeast asia Posts: 164	pH is that the prototype?

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