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10-12-2004, 09:01 PM | #51 | |
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10-12-2004, 09:09 PM | #52 |
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No doubt bush and his supporters are making a killing off the war. I dont think he did it for oil though, for reasons already pointed out. Its a good thing we liberated Iraq I lived in the middle east for 10 years and while there one of my dads friends was killed by the bathist party, so liberation is definetly a good thing.
About the deficit, most of it came from 9/11, theres a pretty good chance that could of happened to anyone, but goin to war is what really put us heavily into debt. |
10-12-2004, 09:35 PM | #53 |
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Well, when do we invade all the other countries with an oppressive ruler?
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10-12-2004, 09:40 PM | #54 | |
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This where i think America has gone wrong, we need to stop trying to police the whole world. Felt that way before and after 9/11 |
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10-12-2004, 09:44 PM | #55 | |
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When hell freezes over? Or, after they have nukes and can counter your attack.
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10-12-2004, 09:50 PM | #56 | |
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10-12-2004, 10:04 PM | #57 | |
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MAD - look it up.
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10-12-2004, 11:49 PM | #58 | ||
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AngryAlpaca go to factcheck.org and look at the VP's income from Halliburton. He receives payments on money the company owes him from his employment. Moreover, his stock options all are paid to charities...He has no finical gain from contracts. If you want to talk greed, I would look at the French and Russian companies that circumvented the UN sanctions. Last edited by Lothar5150; 10-13-2004 at 12:06 AM. |
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10-13-2004, 12:00 AM | #59 | |
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10-13-2004, 12:05 AM | #60 |
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I think if North Korea would ever become a real problem it wouldnt take much encouragement from the US for the south to do the job themselves
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10-13-2004, 12:08 AM | #61 | |
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10-13-2004, 12:10 AM | #62 |
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I watched some of thier training and was quite impressed. What a lot of people dont know is that they had 50k troops in viet nam and were probably the most feared of all the troops there.
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10-13-2004, 12:19 AM | #63 | |
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I trained with them a few times and they are much disciplined and highly motivated. |
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10-13-2004, 12:40 AM | #64 | |
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Hehe I am going to remember that quote since Unless bush pulls out a ballanced budget out of his ass, finds Osama in his ass, or in general stops being a dumb shit... I think the chances are quite good for one of the retreads to make it into office.
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10-13-2004, 12:44 AM | #65 | |
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Flip a coin 2% or less and it is anyone’s election...any beats on a Constitutional crisis Last edited by Lothar5150; 10-13-2004 at 12:49 AM. |
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10-13-2004, 08:24 AM | #66 | |
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Where were you at? I was at Camp Howze in 96. ROC guys are pretty badass. Even our Katusa's were tough nuts.
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10-13-2004, 08:27 AM | #67 | |
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Odds are the DMZ is just going to get leveled with the amount of fire power both sides are throwing. The last plans I looked at showed 100% US casualties (for the in country troops) and 40-60% SK prior to the US counter attack. --------------- And everyone is forgetting the big reason we have been relucant to tackle NK - China. That sleeping dragon is awful big.
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Operative word: companies. Not governments. I realize that line might have gotten a bit blurred in the States in the last four years, but you should still at least try to seem that you're making a distinction between private corporations and THE ****ING UN. |
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10-13-2004, 10:53 AM | #70 |
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Ok let me get this straight... a forum run by a Libertarian has a PROFANITY FILTER? What is going on here?
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10-13-2004, 10:56 AM | #71 |
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Joe set up the forums and he's a Democrat
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10-13-2004, 11:12 AM | #72 |
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My unqualified ramblings on politics:
It's interesting to see that "liberal" and "conservative" don't really apply to the Democrats or Republicans in their current form. Certainly the balooning national debt , the large troop commitments overseas, and the large increase in govt jobs (Homeland Security etc etc) aren't conservative. The politics of the US are interesting because you have large sections of the country that belong to a party for very different reasons. Take the NW US Republicans: those are true conservatives who want low taxes, small govt, and to be left the hell alone to do what they wilt. Then take the SE US Republicans: those are "moral" conservatives who vote Republican largely over abortion and gay-rights and desires for things like prayer in schools instead of evolution. The same is certainly true for the Massachusetts Democrat vs. the Californian Democrat. My personal opinion on Iraq is that it wasn't over oil or immediate profit as much as it was about drawing the terrorism and our foes into a location where they can fight it out with our soldiers instead of with our civilians and our infrastructure at home. Makes sense to me; I'd assume suicide bombers get first crack at the hot virgins for "expelling the infidels". It also give us a strong presence near Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Iran "just in case". I have a fear that, barring an improvement in our economy, after the Jan Iraqi elections Bush will begin to quietly withdraw from Iraq and the country will collapse into civil war. I honestly don't know though if that's better or worse than a draft and a decade of war in the streets of Iraq*. It's just something I can see coming. *This honestly seems more likely with Kerry president to me... |
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10-13-2004, 12:42 PM | #74 |
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it is apparent that rabid and reason are antithetical
tg - you are consistently spouting nonsense, exaggerations and ignorant statements as if they were fact come to the party, the world is as it is - not as your imagination would have it |
10-13-2004, 12:54 PM | #75 | |
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I think no matter what happens to the economy we will remain in Iraq... failure there will follow us home. The reason why people are out of work is because the economy is in flux. Clinton was right when he said, “you might have 5 or 6 jobs in your lifetime” Manufacturing jobs in this country are gone. By the time, we start to have large-scale manufacturing again; it will be completely decentralized and only require only a few people to run a completely automated plant. This happened to farms….how many people are needed to harvest wheat now? What’s desperately needed now is Doctors, Nurses, Engineers etc… in fact there are an astounding number of visa issued for these jobs because we don’t produce enough of these professional ourselves. Kerry might have impress me if he would come clean like Clinton and tell people they have the wrong set of skills but I’m going to make sure you get the training you need and ensure you don’t loose your house. |
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