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05-12-2003, 09:01 PM | #1 |
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Johnson pump deal?
Going through my junkmail, and actually following up on some of the interesting tidbits...
I found a source for that Johnson pump some of us have been dreaming about: click me! (edit: session ID removed) Specs are: Permanent magnet motor. Furnished with mounting bracket. Requires flooded inlet. Not self priming. 12 volts DC 2.2 amps Duty continuous 7 GPM @ 1.5 PSI Ports 3/4" hose barb Temp range 40 - 170 deg F Size 6" x 3" x 2 1/4" Shpg 2 lbs At $29.99, it's hard to beat! Last edited by bigben2k; 05-13-2003 at 09:11 AM. |
05-12-2003, 09:25 PM | #2 |
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Err ok... there's still 416 in stock, how come?
Here's the thread with the details as to why it's such an amazing pump. (Sorry Nexxo!) |
05-12-2003, 09:58 PM | #3 |
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Well if a certain pump doesn't arive soon I might have to look into this one. Might look into it anyway.
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05-13-2003, 03:56 AM | #4 |
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Iv´e got that pump inn my rig now.
I´m ok pleased with it, but one thing you all need too look out for is the heat it generates, iv´e allready had too, retrn one because it´died on my, sniff... but a little fan that is blowing over it at all times keeps it under controle The pressure is good, but the flown rate isn´t the best. All inn all, and ok pump for the size, but not for the cheap pepole out there... -Edit- The price here inn norway for this pump is about 100$ so you get it CHEAP! -P-
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05-13-2003, 05:11 AM | #5 |
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YOU PEOPLE MAKE ME SPEND TOO MUCH MONEY
remind me what does not self priming mean. Just before i buy it btw bigben2k did you buy one? |
05-13-2003, 08:08 AM | #6 |
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At that Price I'll take 2!!!
Interesting thing when I ordered and added myself as new customer, your info was there, Ben?:shrug: Not there anymore (and thankfully neither is mine
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05-13-2003, 08:40 AM | #7 |
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I think I fixed it, thanks!
It must have setup an ID on the session: I entered my info after posting the link! Well, I guess some of you know who I am . I just hope no one ordered one on my account |
05-13-2003, 08:46 AM | #8 |
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More Info?
Looking at specs looks like unmarked CM-30, but what does 1.5 PSI translate to as far as head?, is this good?(I hope):shrug:
/edit never mind read the other thread and so 3ft, 356 GPH. now to figure out when to add it to the new setup.
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1.5 psi is about 3 1/2 feet (41.5 inches to be exact), and that's not the maximum...
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05-13-2003, 08:51 AM | #10 |
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Wow junk mail that was useful What next ???
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05-13-2003, 09:15 AM | #11 | |
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No I didn't pick one up yet, but I'm so tempted! I don't think Radius would go well with it. I'm also hesitant in putting an inductive load on my PSU. For more power, I might pick up two of them, but my budget doesn't allow that frivolous expense right now |
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05-13-2003, 10:14 AM | #12 | |
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05-13-2003, 10:31 AM | #13 |
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It's not likely that pump behaves like an inductive load anyway.
More likely it behaves like a brushless DC fan and puts pulses of current through the windings. Hard to say how high the instantaneous current draw might get. It might be a good idea to put a fat capacitor in parallel with one of these. |
05-13-2003, 10:48 AM | #14 |
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Maybe because it's on the 12v line, it won't affect system stability.
I like the cap idea. Any idea what rating? Nexxo's pump draws 12 volts, and has a max power rating of 26 Watts, for a max amperage of ~2.2 amps. I know it's useless without knowing the RPM. In the mean time, I found a spec sheet for this pump: http://www.johnson-pump.com/JPMarine...IB-CM10_30.pdf (PDF, 20 pages) Here's the flow curve, for all three variations: http://www.johnson-pump.com/JPMarine...10_30_c090.htm The good news is that this Johnson pump is the heavier model that Nexxo described, the CM30P7-1. A quick chart gives these flow/pressure ratings: 3.3 feet @ 6.9 gpm 6.6 feet @ 5.2 gpm 9.8 feet @ 2.4 gpm Max pressure: 5 psi: that's 11 1/2 feet, or 3.5 meters. Max flow is 30 l/m, that's 7.9 gpm, or 474 gph. That's a good pump!!! Last edited by bigben2k; 05-13-2003 at 10:58 AM. |
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Without seeing waveforms on a scope though, it's a pretty rough guess. |
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05-13-2003, 11:27 AM | #16 |
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I'm googled out, for an RPM.
I'm picking one up: can't take it anymore! PS: the housing is rated for max 2.5 bars, which means it can handle a few of these connected in series. |
05-13-2003, 01:55 PM | #17 |
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I decided to pick one up. For $30 it was worth the gamble and I still have a few regular pumps around for a backup just in case it doesn't work out.
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05-13-2003, 01:59 PM | #18 |
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05-13-2003, 06:01 PM | #19 |
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thx for the reply got 2!
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05-14-2003, 02:21 PM | #20 |
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I'm going to have my brother pick up a few. He wants to build a watercooled dually in a briefcase (approx. 3U sized) with a foldout LCD monitor, one power plug, and a completely silent design. This pump would aid in keeping the size down.
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05-14-2003, 02:39 PM | #21 |
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The pump is 6 inches long, and max 3 inches high. The diameter of the housing appears to be a bit more than 2 inches. |
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@ Bigben: darn, you beat me to it! No probs, it is a pump worth mentioning.
The CM30P7-1 is indeed outstanding. Built like a tank. Like the other Johnson (a.k.a Jabsco), it too gets a bit hot during normal operation (about 53 degrees C). Quote:
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05-14-2003, 03:07 PM | #23 |
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What waterblocks did you use there?
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05-16-2003, 10:17 PM | #25 |
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silly question
Got my pumps. VERY Compact for the power.
Planning to get the WW mk 2 from DTEK. How does the idea of the pump being suspended w/about 6" of tube feeding the inlet of the above wb sound as far as a good idea. Would it be worth it? :shrug: block would only be about 15" above pump in present system.
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