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General Liquid/Water Cooling Discussion For discussion about Full Cooling System kits, or general cooling topics. Keep specific cooling items like pumps, radiators, etc... in their specific forums. |
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08-16-2004, 11:22 PM | #26 |
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edited for you, angry
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08-16-2004, 11:30 PM | #27 |
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In this case doesn't polished mean finished (lapped?) using some kind of very fine grinding agent (much like optical mirrors). Is this a mechanical or hand polished finish? If you can "polish" an optical mirror to exacting tolerences by hand as used to be done with telescope mirrors, why can't you "polish" (lap) a water block to an equally fine finish? I can see a problem with getting a fine surface with hand lapping using incorrect techniques.
One thing I've noticed. The lettering on top af AMD Athon TBird CPUs stands out a considerable distance. After removing a couple of (lapped) aluminum heatsinks from these CPUs I've seen the impression left from the CPU lettering on the heatsink plain as day. The only way to remove it is by lapping. How can you get the really good contact across the CPU with the lettering raised like this? |
08-16-2004, 11:33 PM | #28 |
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Here's a thing - the lettering on AMD CPU's is actually laser etched into the die. They are a depression. They are not raised above the die surface. Any "imprint" is actually just solidified thermal paste baked into the base of the heatsink.
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08-16-2004, 11:40 PM | #29 |
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I still don't like it, it means slightly more TIM between the die and block
probably no difference, but I like the sticker on the package better, I gue sthat can be tampered with though cathar, anythign else to add/change?
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08-17-2004, 12:00 AM | #31 | |
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08-17-2004, 06:41 AM | #32 |
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This should seriously be a sticky. Even if just so some forum members don't have to type "use search" so much.
hmm Stew's singing voice sounds familiar....are you the voice behind Milli Vanilli? |
08-17-2004, 07:13 AM | #33 |
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C'mon, you mean you guys haven't heard of The Darkness? Not that they're a fantastic band, but their songs seemed to be getting air-time even when I was in the USA a couple of months ago.
My singing voice makes baby Jesus cry. Milli Vanilli were bad, but even with their real voices they were far better singers than myself. |
08-17-2004, 07:31 AM | #34 |
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Firstly, sticky?
Second, regarding the placement of the pump in the circuit; I thought (perhaps wrongly) that high restriction design blocks performed better when they were first in line after the pump. Is this effect minimal (i.e. .5C or less) or am I just plain wrong? |
08-17-2004, 07:34 AM | #35 | |
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08-17-2004, 07:55 AM | #36 | |
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water is incompressible so in a closed loop, it will exert the same pressure (force) on all components no matter the order
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08-17-2004, 07:57 AM | #37 |
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keep critiquing, guys
I want this to be perfect, or real, real close.
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08-17-2004, 08:03 AM | #38 |
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Cathar- The guy that actually sang Milli Vanilli's songs was pretty good, unlike Rob and Fab (the lip-syncers). And yes that song by the Darkness was pretty funny and stopped getting as much radio play shortly after you were here.
Ruiner- Sticky...like all of those other threads at the top of the page. |
08-17-2004, 08:51 AM | #39 |
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How about mentioning something about series and parallel setup of pumps, rads and blocks? I'm having this little "conversation" about a guy's system w/ 2 pumps in parallel. He's insisting that his parallel "redundant" pumps are great...*sigh*
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08-17-2004, 09:28 AM | #40 |
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Oh, another one. Having a res (or large one) improves performance/temperature.
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08-17-2004, 06:58 PM | #41 |
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ok, now the real question:
post in Watercooling section of ocforums? or submit to overclockers frontpage, and donate the money to procooling testbed? the latter is more appealing, but feasibility/thoughts?
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08-17-2004, 07:21 PM | #42 | |
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*Edit* http://overclockers.com/articles655/ Maybe your article will do well, who knows. If we can just get some of the ignorant to absorb...
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08-17-2004, 07:33 PM | #43 |
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yeah, but that isn't really just about myths.
I'll submit to the frontpage when I get my membership back at OCers (probably later tonight) If they don't want it, I'll post in the watercooling section and hope it gets stickied maybe I should hope it doesn't get stickied, nothing stickied gets read anyway
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08-17-2004, 07:59 PM | #44 |
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Hey greenman, can I post this at my forum? You will be given full credit of course
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08-17-2004, 08:15 PM | #45 |
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go for it, I can email/AIM the edited version with the VBcode tags to make it easier if you want
just be sure to include the credits at the bottom
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here ya go.
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08-17-2004, 08:34 PM | #47 |
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also, I planned on separating each size3 section into it's only post in the same thread, to make linking easier. post as you wish, though
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08-17-2004, 09:07 PM | #48 | |
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'course the corrected figures make it less of a myth (unless you have a better rad(s)) - 2.4C would meet most people's definition of significant imho |
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08-17-2004, 09:11 PM | #49 |
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aw geeze, good call
still thought it waqs worht covering, so people knew exactly how much of a difference it was
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08-17-2004, 09:14 PM | #50 |
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edited to reflect dual 120mm rad
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