Chipset cooling

Snowdonia · 06-24-2003, 11:35 PM

I am back again, with an interesting problem.

I am building an in place water-cooling system that vents the heat outside. Yes; I have hoses and power cables running through the floor so I can get the fan noise and heat outside. But, that is off topic; I am currently going to water cool my 845 chipset, but pretty soon I will be upgrading my computer motherboard, and I plan to buy one of Asus's P4G8X. These have Intel’s entry-level workstation chipset in it (E7205), and it needs to be water cooled because of the over-clocking I want to do. Now my question is whether I should just use a chipset cooler intended for the Northbridge chipsets (845-865-875). Or should I search for a specific waterblock?

Thanks ahead of time for scratching your head over this one!

Khledar · 06-25-2003, 12:34 AM

Kinda not waht you're asking but, why the GraniteBay? Hasn't Canterwood/Springdale kinda whiped them off the map? Does the GB have some feature(s) that the CW doesn't?

[-Stash-] · 06-25-2003, 04:45 AM

I didn't like the added complexity and risk of flooding of an NB block so I just passively cooled the NB of my KT333. One thing to remember is to make sure you have enough airflow through you case if you're going to go down this route as to start with I didn't and that way lies crashing

I tend to agree with Khledar about your choice of chipset though. Something like the Asus P4P800 would seem to be a far better choice both price and performance wise, especially since you're planning on ocing - that is unless there's something you need off granitebay...

Snowdonia · 06-25-2003, 09:53 AM

The basic problem with the 865 and 875 chipset boards is that I have right now I don't have enough money on hand to pay the $200+ price tag.

If I could find one of the 875, specifically, boards around $130-$150 I would buy it, but I can't find one.

redleader · 06-25-2003, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by Snowdonia
The basic problem with the 865 and 875 chipset boards is that I have right now I don't have enough money on hand to pay the $200+ price tag. If I could find one of the 875, specifically, boards around $130-$150 I would buy it, but I can't find one.

The 865 is going to be a lot faster then a 2705, and probably cheaper. Why not get that?

[-Stash-] · 06-25-2003, 08:14 PM

Asus P4P800 "Springdale" - £97.41
Asus P4P800 Deluxe "Springdale" - £114.56

Asus P4C800 "Canterwood" - £135.13
Asus P4C800 Deluxe "Canterwood" - £149.81

Asus P4G8X Deluxe "Granite Bay" - £139.83

Well, there you have it

Springdale is a hell of a lot cheaper and the P4x800 boards have loads more features compared to the P4G8x. Benchmarks everywhere have the 865 and 875 outpacing granitebay and the springdale chipset works out loads cheaper, so........???

Edit: Oh yeah, it seems that the new BIOS available for the P4P800 means it actually outpaces the more expensive 875 in some benches. Why pay more for 875?

Also, those aren't the cheapest UK prices by far, just a quick example.

06-24-2003, 11:35 PM	#1
Snowdonia Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Brush Prairie, WA Posts: 9	Chipset cooling I am back again, with an interesting problem. I am building an in place water-cooling system that vents the heat outside. Yes; I have hoses and power cables running through the floor so I can get the fan noise and heat outside. But, that is off topic; I am currently going to water cool my 845 chipset, but pretty soon I will be upgrading my computer motherboard, and I plan to buy one of Asus's P4G8X. These have Intel’s entry-level workstation chipset in it (E7205), and it needs to be water cooled because of the over-clocking I want to do. Now my question is whether I should just use a chipset cooler intended for the Northbridge chipsets (845-865-875). Or should I search for a specific waterblock? Thanks ahead of time for scratching your head over this one!

06-25-2003, 12:34 AM	#2
Khledar Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North Vancouver BC Posts: 234	Kinda not waht you're asking but, why the GraniteBay? Hasn't Canterwood/Springdale kinda whiped them off the map? Does the GB have some feature(s) that the CW doesn't? __________________ "mooooo" said the cow. ERTW - UBC P4 2.4B @3.01Ghz 167FSB :: Abit IC7 :: 2x256MB HyperX PC3700 :: ASUS 9600XT :: WD Raptor 2x36GB RAID0

06-25-2003, 04:45 AM	#3
[-Stash-] Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kent, England Posts: 24	Personal preference I didn't like the added complexity and risk of flooding of an NB block so I just passively cooled the NB of my KT333. One thing to remember is to make sure you have enough airflow through you case if you're going to go down this route as to start with I didn't and that way lies crashing I tend to agree with Khledar about your choice of chipset though. Something like the Asus P4P800 would seem to be a far better choice both price and performance wise, especially since you're planning on ocing - that is unless there's something you need off granitebay... __________________ [-Stash-] ---------------------------------- XP-M 2500+ (2.5GHz @200FSB), DFI Infinity NFII Ultra 2512 Ballistix 3200, 6800GT 410/1100 WD740GD, 2120 SATA Maxtor 6Y120M0, NEC ND2500A (external) Eheim 1250, DD Maze3, Heater Core, 1/2" Tygon

06-25-2003, 09:53 AM	#4
Snowdonia Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Brush Prairie, WA Posts: 9	GraniteBay Vs. Canterwood The basic problem with the 865 and 875 chipset boards is that I have right now I don't have enough money on hand to pay the $200+ price tag. If I could find one of the 875, specifically, boards around $130-$150 I would buy it, but I can't find one.

06-25-2003, 08:14 PM	#6
[-Stash-] Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kent, England Posts: 24	Some quick prices Asus P4P800 "Springdale" - £97.41 Asus P4P800 Deluxe "Springdale" - £114.56 Asus P4C800 "Canterwood" - £135.13 Asus P4C800 Deluxe "Canterwood" - £149.81 Asus P4G8X Deluxe "Granite Bay" - £139.83 Well, there you have it Springdale is a hell of a lot cheaper and the P4x800 boards have loads more features compared to the P4G8x. Benchmarks everywhere have the 865 and 875 outpacing granitebay and the springdale chipset works out loads cheaper, so........??? Edit: Oh yeah, it seems that the new BIOS available for the P4P800 means it actually outpaces the more expensive 875 in some benches. Why pay more for 875? Also, those aren't the cheapest UK prices by far, just a quick example. __________________ [-Stash-] ---------------------------------- XP-M 2500+ (2.5GHz @200FSB), DFI Infinity NFII Ultra 2512 Ballistix 3200, 6800GT 410/1100 WD740GD, 2120 SATA Maxtor 6Y120M0, NEC ND2500A (external) Eheim 1250, DD Maze3, Heater Core, 1/2" Tygon

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